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Mjtchell

For context his stream is named 100L vs WG. (It is kinda funny ngl.)
So I love the dude and I do think he genuinely got fucked over, but I don't want him to burn any bridges.
He's been talking some shit here and there, and I don't want him to sever ties with 100T especially since there still is a chance later on he can play for them.
He said 100T was his dream org and I know they fucked him over, but the odds that Hiko retires soon(ish) and BabyJ takes Hiko's role isn't that slim. Especially with Ethan on Chamber BabyJ could later down the line be on 100T once again.

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delusional_sentinels_fan1
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ok

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Mjtchell
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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#2]

ok

ok

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AnishXV
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he said the title was just for memes on stream.

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Taramissu
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Didnt ethan said the problem was they didnt mesh well as human? Low chance i think

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Mjtchell
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AnishXV [#4]

he said the title was just for memes on stream.

Yea I understand that but imagine someone with low context like nadeshot seeing this time and time again

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You're talking like he was the one who held the torch. 100T burned the bridges first. They were the ones who fucked him over. Some BM is due. And I doubt he genuinely is doing it to insult them lmao.

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Mjtchell
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Taramissu [#5]

Didnt ethan said the problem was they didnt mesh well as human? Low chance i think

I think the chemistry with BabyJ was ok, I know in interviews that Ec1s and Ethan have different ways they wanted to play. Ec1s wanted to play patient and disciplined while Ethan and Hiko were both more traditional gameplay kinda like ranked with lower tier teams.

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nikoya [#7]

You're talking like he was the one who held the torch. 100T burned the bridges first. They were the ones who fucked him over. Some BM is due. And I doubt he genuinely is doing it to insult them lmao.

They didn't burn the bridges though. It was a team decision and they still did it respectfully. The only bad part about this cut was the time frame.

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Mjtchell [#9]

They didn't burn the bridges though. It was a team decision and they still did it respectfully. The only bad part about this cut was the time frame.

They didn't do it respectfully, maybe they did it as respectfully as they could have but at the end of the day that doesn't make what happened respectful. And the time frame is a factor of why it was disrespectful. The two tie into each other. Also, if management is completely determined by the players themselves instead of a dedicated management team then 100T is in more trouble than I thought. Two players got kicked after two matches. Ec1s spent more time on a plane than playing lmao. It's hard to imagine that there isn't at least a bit of bad blood from BabyJ. Especially considering what he said.

This being said, I understand your point and what you're getting at. It makes sense, no player should be voluntarily cutting off potential connections. Especially if it could net them a paycheck. But I think you're overreacting, esports is full of trash-talking and memes, and BabyJ has every right to shit talk 100T. And this is all over a title being 100L. Barely something to react about. It's hard to believe that when BabyJ says 100L he is saying it maliciously. It's just funny.

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nikoya [#10]

They didn't do it respectfully, maybe they did it as respectfully as they could have but at the end of the day that doesn't make what happened respectful. And the time frame is a factor of why it was disrespectful. The two tie into each other. Also, if management is completely determined by the players themselves instead of a dedicated management team then 100T is in more trouble than I thought. Two players got kicked after two matches. Ec1s spent more time on a plane than playing lmao. It's hard to imagine that there isn't at least a bit of bad blood from BabyJ. Especially considering what he said.

This being said, I understand your point and what you're getting at. It makes sense, no player should be voluntarily cutting off potential connections. Especially if it could net them a paycheck. But I think you're overreacting, esports is full of trash-talking and memes, and BabyJ has every right to shit talk 100T. And this is all over a title being 100L. Barely something to react about. It's hard to believe that when BabyJ says 100L he is saying it maliciously. It's just funny.

I think you read way too much into what I am saying. It seems you think I've reacted way harsher than I am.

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it's good that he's bringing attention to how bad the org is for the future potential players

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I think I bigger issue than players being hurt by 100T this one time is the future of players being hesitant to join 100T in the future if there’s a risk they’ll get dropped that heartlessly.

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Deadpanmitten94 [#13]

I think I bigger issue than players being hurt by 100T this one time is the future of players being hesitant to join 100T in the future if there’s a risk they’ll get dropped that heartlessly.

I agree with this point, but thinking about this I think its funny Bang jumped right in even though 100T did the same thing to ec1s and babyj that tsm did to him. Ig hes gotta learn somehow

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Mjtchell [#6]

Yea I understand that but imagine someone with low context like nadeshot seeing this time and time again

Nadeshot hosted him

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CongoBat [#15]

Nadeshot hosted him

I did see that

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Thank you Bang and jcStani for your time on 100 Thieves. Although your time was short, your contributions were nonetheless important to the organization and the team. We wish you the best in moving forward and your future endeavors.

We welcome BabyJ back to the main roster ahead of Week 4 while Rawkus will join on loan from FaZe.

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Mjtchell [#11]

I think you read way too much into what I am saying. It seems you think I've reacted way harsher than I am.

Really? I dunno, maybe. My perception of this is that you don't want BabyJ to potentially burn bridges with 100T. I don't think you think this is that serious or anything, Obviously this isn't a matter of life or death. You're just stating your opinion. If I'm wrong tell me.

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hiyo [#17]

Thank you Bang and jcStani for your time on 100 Thieves. Although your time was short, your contributions were nonetheless important to the organization and the team. We wish you the best in moving forward and your future endeavors.

We welcome BabyJ back to the main roster ahead of Week 4 while Rawkus will join on loan from FaZe.

Wouldn't be surprised at this point.

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hiyo [#17]

Thank you Bang and jcStani for your time on 100 Thieves. Although your time was short, your contributions were nonetheless important to the organization and the team. We wish you the best in moving forward and your future endeavors.

We welcome BabyJ back to the main roster ahead of Week 4 while Rawkus will join on loan from FaZe.

in b4 this happens

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Mjtchell
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nikoya [#18]

Really? I dunno, maybe. My perception of this is that you don't want BabyJ to potentially burn bridges with 100T. I don't think you think this is that serious or anything, Obviously this isn't a matter of life or death. You're just stating your opinion. If I'm wrong tell me.

I personally think 100T fits perfectly, but if some manager decides to speak into nadeshots ears with an uninformed perspective i feel that is a big risk for babyj
As well as his pr record for future teams.

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Mjtchell [#21]

I personally think 100T fits perfectly, but if some manager decides to speak into nadeshots ears with an uninformed perspective i feel that is a big risk for babyj
As well as his pr record for future teams.

I don't think that'll be an issue. But yeah I see what you're saying.

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hiyo [#17]

Thank you Bang and jcStani for your time on 100 Thieves. Although your time was short, your contributions were nonetheless important to the organization and the team. We wish you the best in moving forward and your future endeavors.

We welcome BabyJ back to the main roster ahead of Week 4 while Rawkus will join on loan from FaZe.

Depends whether hiko will approve or not, lets wait and see..

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Mjtchell [#14]

I agree with this point, but thinking about this I think its funny Bang jumped right in even though 100T did the same thing to ec1s and babyj that tsm did to him. Ig hes gotta learn somehow

Young talent will seize at the opportunity but established talent will not

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Mjtchell
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Deadpanmitten94 [#24]

Young talent will seize at the opportunity but established talent will not

Established talent wont seize at the opportunity because theyre established...
meaning they have a team...

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Mjtchell [#26]

Established talent wont seize at the opportunity because theyre established...
meaning they have a team...

That’s entirely 100% not true and definitely not an absolute. What about someone like TenZ when he was on c9, someone like vanity when he was on v1, someone like YaBoiDre when he was on LG, someone like Marved when he was on FaZe, someone like Yay when he was on Andbox.
Yes they have a team but all of them were looking for other options and if 100t is looking to get players of that caliber they can’t treat their players like this.

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