Oasis Gaming vs. Team Secret | Champions Tour Philippines Stage 1: Challengers | Group Stage | Valorant match

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ASHAS-ASDASDASGAS

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2-0 TS I still believe no matter what happens

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alr wrong again

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BRUH wtf happened

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RG

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ts needs a 6-0 to qualify rt?

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Rainyy

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not 6-0, just atleast 3rd place in their group

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makoidk

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please secret 🙏

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Gud

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imo dubstep is the worst duelist in this group, at least for now
Lets see how his performance tomorrow

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ASHAS-ASDASDASGAS

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I agree with you, I hope he step up tomorrow

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oasis 2-0 ts

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oasis 2-1 goodbye TS

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invy drops 50 across 2 maps and eliminates TS

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k1erre

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Last chance for ts to qualify, let's go!

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If TS lose this, i think its the end

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k1erre

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Well, if ts takes 2 remaining matches after this & bren loses all remaining maps 0:13, it's fine
But it isn't looking realistic so ts should use all their braincells to win this match now

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makoidk

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they can only afford one 2-1 scoreline i think

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Sierxx

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TS redemption arc

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KlobotXXL

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ts got this, same as sbe.. they lost first week match to baiting the odds. now the odds are good for ts and then they gonna raped them 2-0

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agreed

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KlobotXXL

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nvm i jinxed them, ts so bad lmao

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XqcAbdul

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no bro you were right, but ts throw map 1. see how they become a god on map 3 bcs live odds was x4 for ts

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makoidk

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Jremy TS last hope ? D:

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meeska

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why he didnt joined the other games and some people said he had high ping

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Lyze

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I heard he only plays on maps that needed raze the most

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Skyss

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no bootcamp : classic losinggg

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Secret need to win every map to have chance to qualify?

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bloodysky

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Yep, and also hope that Bren or Oas loses their next games.

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User011098

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Okay byebye ts 🤣🤣

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bloodysky

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RIP ts

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1cameh

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wildoreo gah damn 24-6, 9-3 half

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They look so lost rn
Looking like a OAS 2-0

Unlucko but gg to ts for stepping it up in map 3

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drewxa

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TS fell off ?!?!?! rip bozo slAtTT+_*

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makoidk

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ok karti

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Gud

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31/10 vs 8/17

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unlucky

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team secret is getting worse :(

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k1erre

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Now 2 clean maps from ts, enjoy the sweep

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bloodysky

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hopium

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k1erre

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1st clean map delivered, wait for split yolo masterclass

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bloodysky

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you are a messiah

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Rainyy

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what the actual fuck

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k1erre

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PH + secret things kekw

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User011098

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See you on challenger 2

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trola

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rip team secret

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Oasis map pick won by TS by default xD

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k1erre

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Yooo 1:1 already, no matter what helps ts either god or mafia I think they got split in the pocket

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Gud

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"OAS forfeit Map 2 due to technical issues"

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https://twitter.com/kurtesyVLR/status/1494516424936914946

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Closer

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I gotta pray

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Lanss

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Wait what why did they get the map win?

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seint

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wait what Oasis FF on fracture? what happened

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User011098

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Wtf

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magday_1

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Is there still a chance for ts if they won, or just bye bye?

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Rainyy

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time will tell

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trola

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what am i watching this feels like bronze gameplay why re peak

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makoidk

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Chat when ts loses 1 round - "Team secret not looking good"
Chat when ts wins a round - "Team secret looking good"

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rip map 2 FF

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pamanreza

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unlucky for oasis

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Is it counted as a 13-0? or a 0-0

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I assume an ff doesn't award rounds

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that fucking sucks for OASIS

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k1erre

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Secret so stronk 0_0

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that is super unfortunate for Oasis. Forfeited a map then got 13-0'd on the last map, making the map differential to -26 in a single match.

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Dawinky

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13-0 from ts on the 3rd map let's gooo. I still don't know what happened to the 2nd map though

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Rainyy

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...reverse sweep after technical issues
if that doesnt say filipino wifi is absolutely horrendous i dont know what does
i dont know how to feel about this

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MilanTheMyth

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13-0-------13-013-0----------------------------------13-013-013-0
13-0-------13-013-0----------------------------------13-013-013-0
13-0-----13-0------13-0---------------------------- 13-0---------13-0
13-0------------------13-0----------------------------13-0------------13-0
13-0-----------13-0-13-0------13-013-0------13-0-------------13-0
13-0-------------------13-0------13-013-0------13-0-------------13-0
13-0-------------------13-0---------------------------13-0-----------13-0
13-0-----13-0-------13-0----------------------------13-0---------13-0
13-0---------13-013-0--------------------------------13-013-013-0

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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How are the rounds on Fracture counted? Does TS get 13 rounds, does OG lose 13 rounds, or both?

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User011098

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I think its also counted as 13-0 also

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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So a total point differential of 26? Meaning that Oasis is punished and Team Secret is rewarded? If so, then unfortunate for Oasis, but makes sense as it is not abusable + is good for integrity.

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It'll be counted by map wins first, not rounds I believe. By no means TS profited fully from this. They're still in last place. Rounds or not, they still need to win their last match against Bren and APH if they want to go to the playoffs. By far, they're not out of the gutter.

Edit: It's still counted as a 13-0, but it's still map wins first, not round differentials.

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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Hypothetically, if it were a 4-way tie, it would be in the strategic interest of the 1st, 2nd or 3rd team to forfeit against the 4th team(which happens to be one of the better teams), as it would give less chances for the 4th team to increase their round differential and therefore topple the top 3 by that avenue, because as it seems currently, no map score is awarded or taken. If OAS ties with TS, the best play for OAS may be to forfeit, if they indeed do not lose rounds by doing so, ensuring a max 13 round differential on the Split.

Not at all accusing of OAS of doing that here, the scenarios are highly unlikely, but plausible, so I don't see a reason for them to orchestrate metagaming on this level, but it's something to be aware of. That's why I think map score should be both subtracted from the forfeiter and added to their adversary to not incentivize such metagaming, in general.

Edit: Scratch the first part, both scenarios are possible. If APH loses both of their games, TS wins both of their games and BRN vs OAS goes to BRN, which would be the 4 way tie scenario.. And if APH wins OAS, BRN wins TS, TS wins APH, BRN wins OG, it's a 2 way tie with OAS and TS. I still don't think it's reasonable to imply, that OAS intentionally forfeited, it's too big of a stretch, but it could be a valid tactical move in some of the scenarios.

Edit2: Useless comment, VLR baited me into assuming, that a point/series win system was the only relevant system.

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FF count as 0-0 no round

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Happy for Secret & Daddy Dubstep, But very unluko for Oasis, 1 map forfeit then got 13-0'ed

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why oasis forfeited?

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hotpotatoman

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wifi problem i think

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User011098

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Riot client problem

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User011098

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Bro 2 map 13-0 gonna hurt oas on tie breaker

	dispenser TS	DubsteP TS	Jremy TS	JessieVash TS	BORKUM TS
Ripper OAS	4 5 -1	5 3 +2	3 7 -4	6 2 +4	5 6 -1
Wild0reoo OAS	6 5 +1	8 8 +0	7 5 +2	7 3 +4	7 3 +4
invy OAS	6 3 +3	4 5 -1	7 4 +3	4 6 -2	3 6 -3
coco OAS	0 6 -6	3 4 -1	2 3 -1	2 9 -7	3 4 -1
kurtesy OAS	1 1 +0	2 1 +1	4 3 +1	2 1 +1	2 5 -3

	dispenser TS	DubsteP TS	Jremy TS	JessieVash TS	BORKUM TS
Ripper OAS	1 0 +1		0 4 -4
Wild0reoo OAS	2 2 +0	2 2 +0	1 1 +0		2 2 +0
invy OAS	2 0 +2		1 1 +0	1 2 -1
coco OAS		0 1 -1	0 1 -1
kurtesy OAS					0 2 -2

	dispenser TS	DubsteP TS	Jremy TS	JessieVash TS	BORKUM TS
Ripper OAS		0 1 -1
Wild0reoo OAS		0 3 -3
invy OAS		0 2 -2
coco OAS		0 1 -1
kurtesy OAS

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
Ripper OAS	5		1			49	2	0
invy OAS	5	1	1			51	0	1
Wild0reoo OAS	7	4	1	2		74	0	0
kurtesy OAS	2					46	2	2
coco OAS						37	0	0
marky OAS	1					42	0	0
BORKUM TS	7	2		2		64	3	0
JessieVash TS	4	2				59	10	0
dispenser TS	6	1			1	73	2	0
DubsteP TS	6	2				62	0	0
Jremy TS	4	1			1	58	1	1

	dispenser TS	DubsteP TS	Jremy TS	JessieVash TS	BORKUM TS
Ripper OAS	3 2 +1	4 1 +3	3 4 -1	5 0 +5	3 3 +0
Wild0reoo OAS	6 2 +4	7 2 +5	5 4 +1	6 1 +5	7 1 +6
invy OAS	6 1 +5	3 2 +1	4 1 +3	3 4 -1	2 3 -1
coco OAS	0 3 -3	1 2 -1	1 2 -1	1 5 -4	2 1 +1
kurtesy OAS	1 1 +0	2 1 +1	4 3 +1	2 1 +1	2 5 -3

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
Ripper OAS	4 Round 6 dispenser BORKUM Round 7 DubsteP JessieVash Round 12 Jremy dispenser Round 14 JessieVash Jremy		1 Round 1 BORKUM DubsteP Jremy JessieVash			58	2	0
invy OAS	3 Round 8 JessieVash Jremy Round 10 Jremy JessieVash Round 13 dispenser DubsteP	1 Round 19 JessieVash BORKUM dispenser	1 Round 18 BORKUM dispenser Jremy DubsteP			69	0	1
Wild0reoo OAS	6 Round 2 BORKUM dispenser Round 4 dispenser BORKUM Round 12 DubsteP JessieVash Round 13 JessieVash BORKUM Round 14 dispenser DubsteP Round 19 DubsteP Jremy	4 Round 5 BORKUM Jremy DubsteP Round 6 JessieVash DubsteP Jremy Round 10 DubsteP BORKUM dispenser Round 11 dispenser JessieVash Jremy	1 Round 9 BORKUM DubsteP dispenser JessieVash	2 Round 5 DubsteP Round 13 BORKUM		108	0	0
kurtesy OAS	2 Round 2 DubsteP Jremy Round 15 JessieVash dispenser					46	2	2
coco OAS						24	0	0
BORKUM TS	2 Round 8 kurtesy Ripper Round 13 invy kurtesy	2 Round 4 kurtesy Ripper coco Round 16 Ripper invy kurtesy		1 Round 8 Ripper		58	1	0
JessieVash TS	3 Round 3 invy coco Round 7 coco Wild0reoo Round 9 invy coco					57	2	0
dispenser TS		1 Round 17 Ripper Wild0reoo invy				47	2	0
DubsteP TS	1 Round 3 kurtesy Wild0reoo	1 Round 5 Ripper invy coco				36	0	0
Jremy TS	2 Round 4 Wild0reoo invy Round 15 Ripper kurtesy	1 Round 11 coco Ripper kurtesy			1 Round 15 kurtesy Ripper	57	0	1

	2K	3K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL
Ripper OAS	1 Round 11 JessieVash BORKUM				40	0
invy OAS	2 Round 6 Jremy BORKUM Round 7 Jremy DubsteP				32	0
Wild0reoo OAS	1 Round 3 JessieVash DubsteP				40	0
coco OAS					49	0
marky OAS	1 Round 5 dispenser Jremy				42	0
BORKUM TS	5 Round 2 invy coco Round 3 Wild0reoo coco Round 6 Ripper marky Round 7 Ripper invy Round 8 Wild0reoo Ripper		1 Round 7 invy		70	2
JessieVash TS	1 Round 12 coco invy	2 Round 2 Wild0reoo marky Ripper Round 13 Ripper invy coco			60	8
dispenser TS	6 Round 4 Wild0reoo marky Round 6 invy Wild0reoo Round 9 Ripper coco Round 10 invy coco Round 11 coco Ripper Round 12 Wild0reoo Ripper			1 Round 11 coco Ripper	98	0
DubsteP TS	5 Round 1 Ripper Wild0reoo Round 3 invy marky Round 5 invy Ripper Round 11 marky Wild0reoo Round 13 Wild0reoo marky	1 Round 7 coco Wild0reoo Wild0reoo			87	0
Jremy TS	2 Round 4 invy Ripper Round 5 Wild0reoo coco				58	1