idk why but i just feel like gambit won and acend didnt. why am i feeling this way
FERETON [#5]Maybe bc they tried so hard, and got so far. But in the end, it doesn't even matter.
They had to fall, to lose it all, but in the end it doesn't even matter
zerosh1ma [#7]They had to fall, to lose it all, but in the end it doesn't even matter
But they didn't really fall at all, they really are up there with Acend to be fair. Either of them could have won equally.
ZoldyK [#6]Gambit were better than Acend
Acend just had a V1 run
FERETON [#9]But they didn't really fall at all, they really are up there with Acend to be fair. Either of them could have won equally.
i thought you were singing Linkin Park - In The End lyrics.. no? i wasn't being serious at #7
acedeltakokichi [#10]
- VK scandal
- TS had to play 2 matches on 24 hrs
- Liquid had struggles
- Gambit (yeah, it happened.)
NV?
zerosh1ma [#11]i thought you were singing Linkin Park - In The End lyrics.. no? i wasn't being serious at #7
Don't worry, I was :)
Just wanted to be serious with #9.
Bobamint [#8]Yeah ive been feeling this way for a while now, I think its just that gambit seemed better in the series even though acend won. Also that hiccup with vivo keyd just makes the win feel yk less deserved.
Wtf are you saying, Acend looked way better in all the maps but Fracuture, they even hard choked Breeze
FERETON [#13]Don't worry, I was :)
Just wanted to be serious with #9.
oh okay :D, rip chester bennington i miss linkin park :'(
Bobamint [#8]Yeah ive been feeling this way for a while now, I think its just that gambit seemed better in the series even though acend won. Also that hiccup with vivo keyd just makes the win feel yk less deserved.
gambit looked shaky in the entire series while acend owned everyone
Mortadelo [#14]Wtf are you saying, Acend looked way better in all the maps but Fracuture, they even hard choked Breeze
Either of them could've won. Gambit were not in their best form throughout the tournament but they made it to finals. Considering the KRÜ game must have been exhausting, maybe with an easier semifinals match they could've been a tougher opponent for Acend.
I'm not defending Gambit, just being fair considering mental fatigue and that long series against KRÜ must've affected them, while Acend just shitted on everyone on their side of the bracket.
FightWasTaken [#17]better but lost? XD
NV also lost to V1 , that didnt mean V1 was better they just had a good run
ZoldyK [#20]NV also lost to V1 , that didnt mean V1 was better they just had a good run
yeah they had a good run at that time because they were the better team, maybe acend will decay like v1 but for now u can't say gambit were better when they literally lost.
ZoldyK [#6]Gambit were better than Acend
Acend just had a V1 run
so acend had a v1 run in masters 1, red bull home ground and in champions as well? u so goddamn stupid
FERETON [#19]Either of them could've won. Gambit were not in their best form throughout the tournament but they made it to finals. Considering the KRÜ game must have been exhausting, maybe with an easier semifinals match they could've been a tougher opponent for Acend.
I'm not defending Gambit, just being fair considering mental fatigue and that long series against KRÜ must've affected them, while Acend just shitted on everyone on their side of the bracket.
But having a long series against KRU is not Acends fault, just play better. Do you think KRU was a lot better than Liquid??
Mortadelo [#25]But having a long series against KRU is not Acends fault, just play better. Do you think KRU was a lot better than Liquid??
liquid is stronger than kru
kristof [#26]liquid is stronger than kru
Exactly, that’s what I’m saying, they stomped them in groups
And okay, KEU improved, but not that much
Sprouts [#16]Victor had Covid I guess
Ig, it’s crazy, they beat 5 of the best teams of the world and people still say this things.
When unlike Gambit that barely defeated the two SEA teams, VKS and well KRU (best match ever btw, but still) they had a super hard group
Mortadelo [#28]Ig, it’s crazy, they beat 5 of the best teams of the world and people still say this things.
When unlike Gambit that barely defeated the two SEA teams, VKS and well KRU (best match ever btw, but still) they had a super hard group
True, I don’t agree with people saying that ACE had a fluke run against five world class teams, just stating what that other dude probably would’ve used as an excuse
acedeltakokichi [#10]
- VK scandal
- TS had to play 2 matches on 24 hrs
- Liquid had struggles
- Gambit (yeah, it happened.)
1) vk only won with cheats
2) acend also played 2 matches within 24 hours
3) liquid didnt have struggles(everyone can say that they had, losing team always trying to find excuses)
4) better team won in the final
Sprouts [#29]True, I don’t agree with people saying that ACE had a fluke run against five world class teams, just stating what that other dude probably would’ve used as an excuse
Yeah don’t worry, I understood you man. Just saying that people is drunk in this site
Mortadelo [#27]Exactly, that’s what I’m saying, they stomped them in groups
And okay, KEU improved, but not that much
I know it's not Acend's fault, and we can't know if KRÜ improved enough to beat Liquid, it seems like they did to me but there's no way to know it rn.
Just saying it's unlucky for Gambit, it's not just "play better" every time a team doesn't perform how it's expected from them. There's a lot happening behind the game.
kristof [#30]1) vk only won with cheats
2) acend also played 2 matches within 24 hours
3) liquid didnt have struggles(everyone can say that they had, losing team always trying to find excuses)
4) better team won in the final
So u mean Liquid went from beating Acend in Redbull 3-1 and winning every aim duel in the tournament to being reduced to Scream and team wasnt a bad day ?
XITERR_ [#24]maybe its because of how hard they fought to get here. dont get me wrong, even though acend mostly stomped their way through, it wasnt any less impressive.
That and the fact that their matches were (subjectively) better to watch than Acend's. Every Gambit win seemed like they were showing they were getting stronger and stronger, even if at the Grand Finals it wasn't the case.
ZoldyK [#34]So u mean Liquid went from beating Acend in Redbull 3-1 and winning every aim duel in the tournament to being reduced to Scream and team wasnt a bad day ?
LAN chokers
ZoldyK [#34]So u mean Liquid went from beating Acend in Redbull 3-1 and winning every aim duel in the tournament to being reduced to Scream and team wasnt a bad day ?
that was a bad day for acend. acend 13-0d gambit earlier in the red bull home ground
also you said earlier that “NV also lost to V1 , that didnt mean V1 was better they just had a good run” , its also true in this case because liquid beat acend once doesnt mean liquid is better than acend, they just had a good run
Because Gambit for that 2 LANs beat teams from every region(EU, NA, BR, LATAM,KR,JP, SEA) and won EMEA and CIS before that. They are really deserve World Champs status. imo ACE most uncomfortable team for them, some sort of kryptonite. Even though if we will count all rounds in GrandFinal it was 53 for Gambit and 54 for Acend. 1 round diff, very close game.
Unsicklaupedy [#32]Gambit 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1--------> grand final 2-3
Acend 2-1, 2-0, 2-0 , 2-0 --------> grand final 3-2liquid with nivera defeated for the first time
gambit lost a bo5 for the first time in historygambit played very well but if you open your eyes you will see that acend is a better team than them
also Acend is only team that winning OT vs Gambit. They did it in reddbull they did it on 4th map aswell. They just have good reads and understanding how to counter Gambit and other EU teams, but cant do it with same level of confidence with teams from other regions ig
fadezis [#39]also Acend is only team that winning OT vs Gambit. They did it in reddbull they did it on 4th map aswell. They just have good reads and understanding how to counter Gambit and other EU teams, but cant do it with same level of confidence with teams from other regions ig
envy?secret?
fadezis [#38]Because Gambit for that 2 LANs beat teams from every region(EU, NA, BR, LATAM,KR,JP, SEA) and won EMEA and CIS before that. They are really deserve World Champs status. imo ACE most uncomfortable team for them, some sort of kryptonite. Even though if we will count all rounds in GrandFinal it was 53 for Gambit and 54 for Acend. 1 round diff, very close game.
sentinels won 35 rounds
Liquid won 29 raund
but liquid won 2-1
fadezis [#39]also Acend is only team that winning OT vs Gambit. They did it in reddbull they did it on 4th map aswell. They just have good reads and understanding how to counter Gambit and other EU teams, but cant do it with same level of confidence with teams from other regions ig
i think only brazil :)
kristof [#41]envy?secret?
i meant not winning just a round, im tkn about winning 2 rounds in a row for closing map
Unsicklaupedy [#42]sentinels won 35 rounds
Liquid won 29 raundbut liquid won 2-1
k im just gambit simp
kristof [#30]1) vk only won with cheats
2) acend also played 2 matches within 24 hours
3) liquid didnt have struggles(everyone can say that they had, losing team always trying to find excuses)
4) better team won in the final
1) VK would have won it without the cheats as well. If you don't accept that, than you are either a acend fanboy or just dumb.
3) How did they beat acend a few weeks ago than?
4) Even having lost that final, GMBT is still the better team.
fadezis [#46]i meant not winning just a round, im tkn about winning 2 rounds in a row for closing map
no, u talking about acend cant do it with same level of confidence with teams from other regions
0vertaker [#48]1) VK would have won it without the cheats as well. If you don't accept that, than you are either a acend fanboy or just dumb.
3) How did they beat acend a few weeks ago than?
4) Even having lost that final, GMBT is still the better team.
1)well vk lost without cheats. If you don't accept that, than you are either a acend hater or just dumb.
3)acend had a bad day
4) if gambit is better why did they got 13-0d by acend few weeks earlier and lost champions as well?
kristof [#50]1)well vk lost without cheats. If you don't accept that, than you are either a acend hater or just dumb.
3)acend had a bad day
4) if gambit is better why did they got 13-0d by acend few weeks earlier and lost champions as well?
4) It's called "Turik ne v prioritete", which means "This tournament doesn't matter, we here for training"
kristof [#49]no, u talking about acend cant do it with same level of confidence with teams from other regions
I think that he means that acend has better reading eu teams then the teams from other regions. And his point not about wining rounds
fadezis [#38]Because Gambit for that 2 LANs beat teams from every region(EU, NA, BR, LATAM,KR,JP, SEA) and won EMEA and CIS before that. They are really deserve World Champs status. imo ACE most uncomfortable team for them, some sort of kryptonite. Even though if we will count all rounds in GrandFinal it was 53 for Gambit and 54 for Acend. 1 round diff, very close game.
i completely agree