https://twitter.com/ValorantEsports/status/1466962726882660354
THIS CANT BE REAL?
"The final result of map 3 is: Acend 13 - 9 Vivo Keyd."
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VK GOT PUNISHED
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Netero [#11]Makes sense, EU can't win without Riot's help, I'm expecting some massive rigging for EU in playoffs.
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blinkedr159 [#18]Sorry guys, i see that is from the real Valorant Twitter, but when i click the link to read the news it goes to a random news site from riot, without this specific news. Anyway i can read the full news?
ill type the most important part here:
The six (6) rounds where the camera exploit was used will be forfeited by Team Vivo Keyd and granted to Team Acend, resulting in an adjusted score of Acend 12, Vivo Keyd 9. To account for the economic impact of the six (6) forfeited rounds on the subsequent rounds in the map, Acend will be additionally awarded one (1) round.
Therefore, the adjusted final score of map three is: Acend 13, Vivo Keyd 9.
So ACEND has been granted 6 rounds because this exploit has been used for 6 rounds throughout the match, but that additional round seems like BS. Just play the matchpoint out, why give them an extra round to win the match? Or better yet, just replay the map itself. No need to award 7 additional rounds for a team that was being tactically outclassed, and wouldn't have made a difference regardless of the exploit.
Idk it doesn't seem fair about the last part.
gutszeraa [#24]why not just replay the map
Bruh it shouldn't even be replayed, EU do this same thing all the time and no one cars. Keyd won fair and square and RIOT is salty about it.
redlight [#22]So ACEND has been granted 6 rounds because this exploit has been used for 6 rounds throughout the match, but that additional round seems like BS. Just play the matchpoint out, why give them an extra round to win the match? Or better yet, just replay the map itself. No need to award 7 additional rounds for a team that was being tactically outclassed, and wouldn't have made a difference regardless of the exploit.
Idk it doesn't seem fair about the last part.
seems like riot are either biased af or just half assing this shit so they dont have to replay the map... so fucked
Netero [#23]Bro Brazil is literally going to stop playing and watching VAL
Riot literally killing a region in plain sight
blinkedr159 [#18]Sorry guys, i see that is from the real Valorant Twitter, but when i click the link to read the news it goes to a random news site from riot, without this specific news. Anyway i can read the full news?
https://valorantesports.com/news/comunidado-de-penalidade-vivo-keyd/
plas [#19]ill type the most important part here:
The six (6) rounds where the camera exploit was used will be forfeited by Team Vivo Keyd and granted to Team Acend, resulting in an adjusted score of Acend 12, Vivo Keyd 9. To account for the economic impact of the six (6) forfeited rounds on the subsequent rounds in the map, Acend will be additionally awarded one (1) round.Therefore, the adjusted final score of map three is: Acend 13, Vivo Keyd 9.
First of all, thanks for putting the news here..
That makes no sense to me, let them play a round than...
If they had to forfeit those rounds, let them play a 12 x 9 game at least...
What do u expect this exploit out for forever and clown jhow still using it lmaoo. X10 and giants gaming got punishments on this scale even when the exploit was less well known
Ik acend prob would’ve won, but to be consistent with their other rulings this is 100% fair
Riot is a joke for not fixing it but no way they don’t know about exploit when they r fucking pros lmaoo
glxy_room [#39]What do u expect this exploit out for forever and clown jhow still using it lmaoo. X10 and giants gaming got punishments on this scale even when the exploit was less well known
Ik acend prob would’ve won, but to be consistent with their other rulings this is 100% fair
Riot is a joke for not fixing it but no way they don’t know about exploit when they r fucking pros lmaoo
Brazilians will downvote me remember Wardell owns heat
Subroza owns mwzera
Daddy Levi doggystyle muriZz
StockfishZ [#45]idk why they didnt stop the match immediately after jhow did the bug
Cuz it wasn’t obvious
Netero [#11]Makes sense, EU can't win without Riot's help, I'm expecting some massive rigging for EU in playoffs.
HOW IS EU INVOLVED HERE LOL UR BEEF IS WITH RIOT
SenWinChampions [#49]use exploit camera that has previously been punished before
got punishedand they malding how? Do BR think they have their own rule book because they dont understand english or something?
Man, they gave one extra round for "economy". At least make them play a 12x9 game for Acend.
blinkedr159 [#55]Man, they gave one extra round for "economy". At least make them play a 12x9 game for Acend.
if VK can win without exploit they still got time to prove. Not like they got knocked out anyway. still got easy lower bracket match and a rematch to Acend potentially to show they can actually win without exploit cam
Netero [#26]Bruh it shouldn't even be replayed, EU do this same thing all the time and no one cars. Keyd won fair and square and RIOT is salty about it.
Yesterday when Riot decision benefited NA did you complain? You’re a hypocrite :)
(Not saying it was the right decision)
Raevus [#48]that's so fucking unfortunate. such a shame VKS had to ff the map considering they were performing so well against acend, and had their number on everything.
Yeah, sad for VKS, I especially feel bad for Sacy tho
fuji [#62]This has to be one of the most incredibly stupid things I have ever seen in an esport.
yeah using a well known exploit that been punished before in the biggest stage the team ever played. Truely the most stupid thing ever
SenWinChampions [#56]if VK can win without exploit they still got time to prove. Not like they got knocked out anyway. still got easy lower bracket match and a rematch to Acend potentially to show they can actually win without exploit cam
It changes everything for VK.
If you want to talk only about the results, they have to beat acend vs nv loser again and beat X10. In this scenario they have to win 2 out of 2 bo3.
In the later scenario they needed to win against nv, or win against the winner of x10 vs Acend. In this scenario they have to win 1 out of 2 bo3.
But we are talking about fairness, if they want to apply a penalty, i aggree with that, but the reasoning does not make sense. They gave an extra round to ACE just to not make a 12x9 game in the next day. Even if it were a 12x9 scenario with no money, they had a chance of winning, we saw VK winning ecoes of ACE today.
If that was the rule, the 12x9 no money should be played to define the winner. Not automatically give the map to them.
blinkedr159 [#64]It changes everything for VK.
If you want to talk only about the results, they have to beat acend vs nv loser again and beat X10. In this scenario they have to win 2 out of 2 bo3.
In the later scenario they needed to win against nv, or win against the winner of x10 vs Acend. In this scenario they have to win 1 out of 2 bo3.
But we are talking about fairness, if they want to apply a penalty, i aggree with that, but the reasoning does not make sense. They gave an extra round to ACE just to not make a 12x9 game in the next day. Even if it were a 12x9 scenario with no money, they had a chance of winning, we saw VK winning ecoes of ACE today.
If that was the rule, the 12x9 no money should be played to define the winner. Not automatically give the map to them.
the fact that they are calculating round isntead of giving a straight auto loss for VK is generous. x10 and giant both auto loss for the EXACT SAME EXPLOIT. It has been done TWO times before, and been punished both times for auto loss. Why VK should be treated differently?
Mortadelo [#60]Yeah, sad for VKS, I especially feel bad for Sacy tho
VK was playing insane. It's a shame they had to ff the map. This worked for my pickems, but I got them winning LB. Hopefully this anger fuels them to destroy the lower bracket.
It would be suck a mistake if they go out beacuse of something like this. Acend just got so lucky given they were playing like ass on breeze.
Raevus [#67]VK was playing insane. It's a shame they had to ff the map. This worked for my pickems, but I got them winning LB. Hopefully this anger fuels them to destroy the lower bracket.
It would be suck a mistake if they go out beacuse of something like this. Acend just got so lucky given they were playing like ass on breeze.
I agree 100% with you, but I was just trolling cuz you said VKS which is Vikings , the almost have the same name
IDK if VK knew about this but I think they should. One of the EMEA teams got disqualified but I am happy VK is not getting disqualified.
Me thinking as a Brazil fan: What does RIOT have against Brazilians? Why do they hate us? Fuck riot they suck fuckin ass valorant is ass why even play valorant when brazilians are not treated the same way.
Me as a Acend fan: Lets goo they cheated and they are lucky they did not get disqualified unlike the other EU teams.
Riot: WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
Me: I just want popcorn and lets watch Brazil fans vs RIOT
Mortadelo [#69]I agree 100% with you, but I was just trolling cuz you said VKS which is Vikings , the almost have the same name
aah ye lol. Get them mixed up at times lol. 3am isn't helping with no sleep either haha.
salty [#32]A free ability ---> 6 rounds. A fine would have been a much better punishment wtf.
probably, but this has happened before to giants and x10 on their own region , both of them had to forfeit the map and probably one of the reason why x10 is not in vct masters 3 berlin because of -1 round
Raevus [#72]aah ye lol. Get them mixed up at times lol. 3am isn't helping with no sleep either haha.
:)
SenWinChampions [#63]yeah using a well known exploit that been punished before in the biggest stage the team ever played. Truely the most stupid thing ever
"well known"
bro, even Riot officials didn't know about it, the camera appeared explicitly and they didnt paused the match. Riot didn't warned about this camera too, as heat said in this tweet:
https://twitter.com/heatfps/status/1466969579155083267
SenWinChampions [#65]the fact that they are calculating round isntead of giving a straight auto loss for VK is generous. x10 and giant both auto loss for the EXACT SAME EXPLOIT. It has been done TWO times before, and been punished both times for auto loss. Why VK should be treated differently?
The reasoning matters.
Maybe it is because i'm lawyer and had to study reasoning for arguments and for decisions of judges, but the process from beginning to conclusion matters.
If they just said this is an autoloss punishment like it happened before. I would be sad, but would not feel the unfairness of it. The results would be the same, but they would continue the jurisprudence(sorry, i dont know a better word in english and its 3 am in Portugal right now) of autoloos in this scenario.
Now we have a situation where we dont know if the next person to do it would have an autoloss scenario or a lose the round that they had an exploit.
Its just bad handling, it creates the feeling of unfairness, creates bad case law, and makes everyone angry. Even the people that were supporting the punishment are angry right now...
blinkedr159 [#76]The reasoning matters.
Maybe it is because i'm lawyer and had to study reasoning for arguments and for decisions of judges, but the process from beginning to conclusion matters.
If they just said this is an autoloss punishment like it happened before. I would be sad, but would not feel the unfairness of it. The results would be the same, but they would continue the jurisprudence(sorry, i dont know a better word in english and its 3 am in Portugal right now) of autoloos in this scenario.
Now we have a situation where we dont know if the next person to do it would have an autoloss scenario or a lose the round that they had an exploit.
Its just bad handling, it creates the feeling of unfairness, creates bad case law, and makes everyone angry. Even the people that were supporting the punishment are angry right now...
yes I agree should be auto loss (so same ruling as the 2 times happened before) then calculating round per round punishment like they did now.
https://twitter.com/mwzera/status/1466968097022226440
He said:
"The sad thing is to know that it was never the nature of bugging the map or wanting to take advantage, we don't need that to win, and it was even in the 9x4 round echo if we were warned in the middle of the OBVIOUS game that we wouldn't do it, but rule is rule, anyway, let's not let it go, believe me family!"
They didn`t know
redlight [#22]So ACEND has been granted 6 rounds because this exploit has been used for 6 rounds throughout the match, but that additional round seems like BS. Just play the matchpoint out, why give them an extra round to win the match? Or better yet, just replay the map itself. No need to award 7 additional rounds for a team that was being tactically outclassed, and wouldn't have made a difference regardless of the exploit.
Idk it doesn't seem fair about the last part.
How would you possibly think they can generate the economy accurately? There is countless possibilities of what it would have been like at 12-9. Eco, weapons, ult points.
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