CS viewership

I see some people here saying that Valorant Champions may peak higher than this major of CS.

The chance of this happening is zero, EVEN CS will not peak this high anytime soon.

It was the first major in 2 years, got the most popular team of CS (navi) in the finals with G2 and Niko x S1mple, the GOAT and one of the best CS players of all time, and both didn`t have won a major yet. Once in a time event...

To Valorant achieve this level it will take some years yet, and CS will only get these numbers again if its something like Navi x Some BR team in the finals..

Valorant could get that viewership with a crowd AND the most popular teams in the finals.

as a csgo fan. this is facts. well said. it could happen again in cs but chances really low. valo idk. may need more than a miracle

valorant will not even get numbers like that in 5 years,the final literally got almost as many wiewers as ti10 final

PoohShiesty [#2]

Valorant could get that viewership with a crowd AND the most popular teams in the finals.

is this bait

kkona1234 [#4]

valorant will not even get numbers like that in 5 years,the final literally got almost as many wiewers as ti10 final

thats literally insane fr

kkona1234 [#5]

is this bait

How is it bait? Asian viewership is insane and you can see how many viewers league gets.

PoohShiesty [#7]

How is it bait? Asian viewership is insane and you can see how many viewers league gets.

its actually not as impressive as u think
LoL 6x as big as csgo. peak viewers 4mil
csgo peak was 2.7mil
something is wrong here

KidFromCTown [#8]

its actually not as impressive as u think
LoL 6x as big as csgo. peak viewers 4mil
csgo peak was 2.7mil
something is wrong here

Lots of those players are casuals so they don't translate into esport viewers.

PoohShiesty [#7]

How is it bait? Asian viewership is insane and you can see how many viewers league gets.

valorant kinda flopped in korea and sea teams are not good enough to get to important games,japan has a insane wiewership tho but the only problem is that its japan

very good.and cs fanboy can stop complaining costream in valoant esports

PoohShiesty [#7]

How is it bait? Asian viewership is insane and you can see how many viewers league gets.

insane? Only japan viewership is good. Korea viewership is basically less than a Pokimane stream, and SEA is even less than that

cnfpsworstfps [#11]

very good.and cs fanboy can stop complaining costream in valoant esports

what

PoohShiesty [#7]

How is it bait? Asian viewership is insane and you can see how many viewers league gets.

hey hey hey why you put asian people on there wtf ???

cnfpsworstfps [#11]

very good.and cs fanboy can stop complaining costream in valoant esports

I mean co streaming does carry Valorant viewership no matter how much you want to deny it. If shroud was getting 2x-3x the amount of viewers than the main channel than I don’t know what the word carrying means. Even in the latest LCQ events, Tenz co streamed some of the matches and had way more viewers than the actual main channel.

PoohShiesty [#7]

How is it bait? Asian viewership is insane and you can see how many viewers league gets.

Lol you realize the Chinese numbers for cs was 18 million right? I doubt that number is totally correct but I know Valorant in Asia gets no where the same amount. I know it’s big in Japan but don’t know about other regions.

Valorant won’t come close sorry

Larry [#16]

Lol you realize the Chinese numbers for cs was 18 million right? I doubt that number is totally correct but I know Valorant in Asia gets no where the same amount. I know it’s big in Japan but don’t know about other regions.

i think india comes after japan in valo viewer ship in asia as in apac lcq most watched game except the final which included a japanese team was f4q vs GE
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-apac-last-chance-qualifier

cnfpsworstfps [#11]

very good.and cs fanboy can stop complaining costream in valoant esports

Bruh, Shroud had 60K viewers, while the Major english channel alone was 600K+. Remove shroud 60K + Tarik 15K +5K/6K streamers from 2.6 million. Major still had 2.4 million+ viewers without counting co-streams xD.

Shroud himself gets 2x to 3x the main stream's viewers in Valorant. He doesn't even get 1/10 of the main stream viewers in CS.

Raphael151 [#19]

Bruh, Shroud had 60K viewers, while the Major english channel alone was 600K+. Remove shroud 60K + Tarik 15K +5K/6K streamers from 2.6 million. Major still had 2.4 million+ viewers without counting co-streams xD.

Shroud himself gets 2x to 3x the main stream's viewers in Valorant. He doesn't even get 1/10 of the main stream viewers in CS.

Why are you so much invested in valorant if you like csgo that much get the fuck out of here

Reform [#12]

insane? Only japan viewership is good. Korea viewership is basically less than a Pokimane stream, and SEA is even less than that

Not really, Japan goes like 150K-200K, India goes around 60K, Phillipines around 30K or something it's more than half a million in Asia

DaalLiya [#18]

i think india comes after japan in valo viewer ship in asia as in apac lcq most watched game except the final which included a japanese team was f4q vs GE
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-apac-last-chance-qualifier

Yeah I can see that. India would have a decent following and scene in CS if it wasn't for f0rsaken.

valorant could easily get those numbers.

with the help of 100 streamers watch party.

Larry [#22]

Yeah I can see that. India would have a decent following and scene in CS if it wasn't for f0rsaken.

forsaken <3 Indian pride

Larry [#22]

Yeah I can see that. India would have a decent following and scene in CS if it wasn't for f0rsaken.

cs was never popular as valo is now in india

Despite being a year old game Imagine, If Valorant champs got more viewers than CS GO Major.

ruihfjk [#26]

Despite being a year old game Imagine, If Valorant champs got more viewers than CS GO Major.

It's going to be so much fun seeing CS GO fans rant about valorant and co-stream.

KidFromCTown [#3]

as a csgo fan. this is facts. well said. it could happen again in cs but chances really low. valo idk. may need more than a miracle

valo don't believe in a miracle just give them some time.

Imagine, If Valorant champs got more viewers than CS GO Major. It would be so much fun.

deadSQUAD [#23]

valorant could easily get those numbers.

with the help of 100 streamers watch party.

u're not wrong tho lol

As a casual fan who doesnt play much, it is kinda hard to keep up with valo and new agents. and dont really have time to play.

While CSGO is basic, i can just hop in on any stream. Maybe thats why cs will still retain viewers for a long time.

DaalLiya [#25]

cs was never popular as valo is now in india

Yeah man but they got a glimpse of hope when a big esport org at that time wanted to invest in india then forsaken deliver the last nail to the coffin when it is already dead enough

NotWakemeupwhenniveratop1 [#31]

Yeah man but they got a glimpse of hope when a big esport org at that time wanted to invest in india then forsaken deliver the last nail to the coffin when it is already dead enough

after forsaken orgs like fnatic,gxr,vitality and tsm have invested optic just handled the situation very badly

PoohShiesty [#2]

Valorant could get that viewership with a crowd AND the most popular teams in the finals.

Wow. This is a huge downvote having in mind its valorant website.

PoohShiesty [#9]

Lots of those players are casuals so they don't translate into esport viewers.

Idk why this has downvotes. Makes sense people would find CS easier to watch than league even if they play casually

Thunder1 [#20]

Why are you so much invested in valorant if you like csgo that much get the fuck out of here

Why you so butthurt lmfao, mad that another game is still doing well, straight up cringe. Grow up

Thunder1 [#20]

Why are you so much invested in valorant if you like csgo that much get the fuck out of here

I like both games, and I am hence invested into both. I just find delusionals like you cringy, who somehow feel "associated" or "belonging" to one or the other esport xD

Note: I didn't start the costream argument. Iceland VCT main stream barely reached 200K, while shroud was at 500K. That is the meaning of "getting carried by watch parties". Here, Major had 2.6 million lmao. Shroud was the biggest watch party with 60K viewers, Tarik was 2nd with 20K. Remove all these and it doesn't make a damn difference. VCT got carried by watch parties, Major didn't.

Raphael151 [#36]

I like both games, and I am hence invested into both. I just find delusionals like you cringy, who somehow feel "associated" or "belonging" to one or the other esport xD

Note: I didn't start the costream argument. Iceland VCT main stream barely reached 200K, while shroud was at 500K. That is the meaning of "getting carried by watch parties". Here, Major had 2.6 million lmao. Shroud was the biggest watch party with 60K viewers, Tarik was 2nd with 20K. Remove all these and it doesn't make a damn difference. VCT got carried by watch parties, Major didn't.

gaules had 300k viewers LUL carried by streamers and shroud peaked 300k at iceland not 500k clearly you are a csgo frog who is being toxic towards valorant

Comparing an established esport to a brand new one is like asking who would win in a fight between a grown adult and a newborn.

I do believe that eventually the newborn grows old and fucking murders the elderly adult but until that point Valorant will always perform below CSGO until it has an established scene. As of right now the scene is still somewhat volatile and that's okay because it is only a year into its life.

Nishntr [#30]

As a casual fan who doesnt play much, it is kinda hard to keep up with valo and new agents. and dont really have time to play.

While CSGO is basic, i can just hop in on any stream. Maybe thats why cs will still retain viewers for a long time.

With that logic league & dota would have been dead till now.

KING_HAPPY [#37]

gaules had 300k viewers LUL carried by streamers and shroud peaked 300k at iceland not 500k clearly you are a csgo frog who is being toxic towards valorant

Bruh, Gaules is literally the offical Portuguese stream lol. Go and check TO stream partners on PGL, ESL, BLAST website, etc. He just doesn't have a studio like the English and Russian Streams. Get your facts straight. He's not a watch-party.

Edit: Escharts just updated the stats.
https://twitter.com/EsportsCharts/status/1457655015347265539?t=cKEkVj87xkcxjjW9Piezfg&s=19
Without independent watch-parties/casters, it was 2.57 million. With watch-parties and co-streams, it is 2.75 million (180K viewers from all watch-parties combined).

a lot of people think the highest number of views comes from the US , i think not , the biggest communities are Russia and Brazil , we have China too but we never know their actual numbers , i also think it's important to say that CS is not the most popular game in Russia , I think it's dota2 and that's been changing now with NAvi, one final Brazil vs Navi would be insane also

TSM vs BBL ?

ruihfjk [#26]

Despite being a year old game Imagine, If Valorant champs got more viewers than CS GO Major.

if that happens its time to make a new copypasta

KidFromCTown [#8]

its actually not as impressive as u think
LoL 6x as big as csgo. peak viewers 4mil
csgo peak was 2.7mil
something is wrong here

Bro do you know that the stats that we see for lol worlds are without the asian viewership ? If you add asian viewership lol is about 55m

viewership can go big especially when the recent major just had really good numbers. However, I'd see most of the crowd will come from the more casual viewers as well as asian countries. Vastly different audiences for both.

ruihfjk [#28]

valo don't believe in a miracle just give them some time.

Imagine, If Valorant champs got more viewers than CS GO Major. It would be so much fun.

Not happening in next 10 years

iclappedurmama [#39]

With that logic league & dota would have been dead till now.

I watched LOL final just because it had 750k viewers on twitch and I straight up had no idea what's going on

kkona1234 [#4]

valorant will not even get numbers like that in 5 years,the final literally got almost as many wiewers as ti10 final

It surpassed ti finals

Nightwing [#47]

I watched LOL final just because it had 750k viewers on twitch and I straight up had no idea what's going on

there's a reason why it had 750k viewers.

KING_HAPPY [#37]

gaules had 300k viewers LUL carried by streamers and shroud peaked 300k at iceland not 500k clearly you are a csgo frog who is being toxic towards valorant

to be fair, the french guy is speaking facts.

Why caring about viewership?
People can watch whatever they want, because they'll always be streams so why bother fighting via forums about "wHaT's bEtTeR aNd wHaT's wOrSe".

Really is makes me laugh to think people got so butthurt about subjects like this lol

Raphael151 [#36]

I like both games, and I am hence invested into both. I just find delusionals like you cringy, who somehow feel "associated" or "belonging" to one or the other esport xD

Note: I didn't start the costream argument. Iceland VCT main stream barely reached 200K, while shroud was at 500K. That is the meaning of "getting carried by watch parties". Here, Major had 2.6 million lmao. Shroud was the biggest watch party with 60K viewers, Tarik was 2nd with 20K. Remove all these and it doesn't make a damn difference. VCT got carried by watch parties, Major didn't.

Watchparties in val get so many viewers because casters are total garbage. Nobody wants to listen them. I myself watched most of the tourneys in watchparties because casters are unbareable but did not think twice with major about which stream to watch. Even the casters I dont really like are damn good in cs. Btw gaules even if he is official streamer, the experience he gives is watchparty'ish, hes not a usual caster. If shroud would be a brasilian, he would probably be official brasilian valorant stream too

Capi [#44]

Bro do you know that the stats that we see for lol worlds are without the asian viewership ? If you add asian viewership lol is about 55m

?

NotWakemeupwhenniveratop1 [#31]

Yeah man but they got a glimpse of hope when a big esport org at that time wanted to invest in india then forsaken deliver the last nail to the coffin when it is already dead enough

i mean the manger of optic knew about his cheats, kinda orgs fault as well

Paracosm [#53]

?

It's the reality

Capi [#55]

It's the reality

your so dumb its actually funny

Paracosm [#56]

your so dumb its actually funny

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Capi [#44]

Bro do you know that the stats that we see for lol worlds are without the asian viewership ? If you add asian viewership lol is about 55m

lmao

One major fact that people still disregard is Valorant still not released in China

ZhongXina [#59]

One major fact that people still disregard is Valorant still not released in China

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Nightwing [#46]

Not happening in next 10 years

Yeah in CS you are right

High viewership will eventually going to become normal for valorant.