better PRX roleswap

jingg: main duelist
something: flash init (he can actually set up his own overheat plays instead dry peeking on recon)
forsaken: sentinel +flex
david: scan initator +flex
mindfreak: smokes

thoughts?

Fk no , something perma duel

Notbaka [#2]

Fk no , something perma duel

something cannot play raze neon
jingg can play jett and neon acceptably +OP acceptably well

serot [#3]

something cannot play raze neon
jingg can play jett and neon acceptably +OP acceptably well

then FORCE HIM ON JETT
PUT FORSAKEN ON NEON OR RAZE
RUN DOUBLE DUELIST
ARE WE ACTING LIKE T1 ISNT RUNNING DOUBLE DUELIST
COPY T1
DO SOMETHING ATLEAST

serot [#3]

something cannot play raze neon
jingg can play jett and neon acceptably +OP acceptably well

Something can play raze he played previously it's just cause of jinggg that he doesn't play

serot [#3]

something cannot play raze neon
jingg can play jett and neon acceptably +OP acceptably well

Something can play raze did in Japan and ffs how tf u a pro player if u can’t learn an Agent and he is already a good duelist just learn another duelist agent

LordItachi [#5]

Something can play raze he played previously it's just cause of jinggg that he doesn't play

something raze was not a raze diff, it was an aim diff
raze skill ceiling is much higher than jett
better to have the best raze and a good jett rather than one of the best jetts and a mid raze

Notbaka [#6]

Something can play raze did in Japan and ffs how tf u a pro player if u can’t learn an Agent and he is already a good duelist just learn another duelist agent

he played raze like demon1 plays raze, poorly but it works out since he just aim duels and wins

Frogger0_0 [#4]

then FORCE HIM ON JETT
PUT FORSAKEN ON NEON OR RAZE
RUN DOUBLE DUELIST
ARE WE ACTING LIKE T1 ISNT RUNNING DOUBLE DUELIST
COPY T1
DO SOMETHING ATLEAST

so u just want the old roles back but worse? forsaken on raze would be a waste of jingg's raze and you also put jingg offrole.

f0rsaken duelist
d4v4i initiator
patmen flex
jingg senti/2nd duelist
something smokes

mindfreak to coaching/motivator

serot [#9]

so u just want the old roles back but worse? forsaken on raze would be a waste of jingg's raze and you also put jingg offrole.

no bro
i meant jinnggg on raze on raze maps
mb

Is this not literally what they tried previously?

The problem is Jing can't play Jett/Yoru and Something can't REALLY play initiator at all. Especially not Breach; he's constantly using util for himself instead of the team on the agent literally designed to prevent you doing that.

The solution really is replace Something with a real initiator player (Patmen, ofc) and, since you can't cut him too, improve Jing's non-duelist roles so he still fits the team on the maps you need solo Yoru out of Forsaken.

Jing already actually has a better agent pool than something, and plays better on those agents. If he can add even just Vyse and Astra successfully, your comp issues completely disappear.

Frogger0_0 [#4]

then FORCE HIM ON JETT
PUT FORSAKEN ON NEON OR RAZE
RUN DOUBLE DUELIST
ARE WE ACTING LIKE T1 ISNT RUNNING DOUBLE DUELIST
COPY T1
DO SOMETHING ATLEAST

He doesn’t have a cake but good looks I’d do something ngl

serot [#7]

something raze was not a raze diff, it was an aim diff
raze skill ceiling is much higher than jett
better to have the best raze and a good jett rather than one of the best jetts and a mid raze

His mid raze would still make him one of the most talented aimers in the world. I think his raze would be like KangKang's raze. At least the playstyle

Saying jingg main duelist while something was considered one of the best aimers in 2023 and not having him on iso jett is criminal

never understood why they're making something, and now jinggg learn many types of agents at once. Something's playing flash and recon now while jingg is on tejo and omen(???)

something: perma duelist
jingg: tenz omen cosplay
mindfreaak: sentinel
forsaken: scan + flex
davaii: scan + flex

basically the same comp against drx but somethin is duelist cause something can sync his utls for his teamates.

danii1 [#14]

His mid raze would still make him one of the most talented aimers in the world. I think his raze would be like KangKang's raze. At least the playstyle

KK raze isnt bad at all because he actually plays it consistently in ranked, which you can't say about something.
Something honestly needs to get off duelist. Yeah he can aim but he basically runs it down and overheats no matter what. When it works he looks like a god but when he doesn't he looks like PROD. He can still put his good aim to use playing second entry after jingg.

out of all the ppl for duelist role u picked j0ngg

serot [#3]

something cannot play raze neon
jingg can play jett and neon acceptably +OP acceptably well

wait are we stupid...
https://www.vlr.gg/170959/sengoku-gaming-vs-fennel-challengers-league-japan-split-1-lr2
he can play raze LMAO

serot [#18]

KK raze isnt bad at all because he actually plays it consistently in ranked, which you can't say about something.
Something honestly needs to get off duelist. Yeah he can aim but he basically runs it down and overheats no matter what. When it works he looks like a god but when he doesn't he looks like PROD. He can still put his good aim to use playing second entry after jingg.

His initiator is really bad man...

Effluxi [#12]

Is this not literally what they tried previously?

The problem is Jing can't play Jett/Yoru and Something can't REALLY play initiator at all. Especially not Breach; he's constantly using util for himself instead of the team on the agent literally designed to prevent you doing that.

The solution really is replace Something with a real initiator player (Patmen, ofc) and, since you can't cut him too, improve Jing's non-duelist roles so he still fits the team on the maps you need solo Yoru out of Forsaken.

Jing already actually has a better agent pool than something, and plays better on those agents. If he can add even just Vyse and Astra successfully, your comp issues completely disappear.

Jingg 100 percent can play jett, its just that something and forsaken are both better jett players so there never was a need to have him on it.

If prx ever would need a dedicated duelist jingg over something is better imo. something doesn't even have 100 hours on raze over his lifetime.

Something flash initiator is the best option you can have without him getting dropped. Him on recon and smokes is arguably worse and I can't see him playing sentinel either. Something by his nature will overheat on every role and I rather he flash for himself on breach than drypeek on sova with full util.

This post was made with no roster changes in mind.

danii1 [#21]

His initiator is really bad man...

his gekko was solid and if he can learn gekko to that level i'm sure he can adapt to other flash initators

Divine_Thunder [#19]

out of all the ppl for duelist role u picked j0ngg

better than s0mething jett overheat simulator, demon1 type raze movement, nonexistent neon, nonexistent yoru

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#20]

wait are we stupid...
https://www.vlr.gg/170959/sengoku-gaming-vs-fennel-challengers-league-japan-split-1-lr2
he can play raze LMAO

watch the match, his raze util is terrible he just aims better

thats what they were already doing just with Something playing Jett on Jett maps

serot [#23]

his gekko was solid and if he can learn gekko to that level i'm sure he can adapt to other flash initators

Gekko is one of the most simple characters in the game. Of course he can play it decently. There's no skill to him.

Frogger0_0 [#4]

then FORCE HIM ON JETT
PUT FORSAKEN ON NEON OR RAZE
RUN DOUBLE DUELIST
ARE WE ACTING LIKE T1 ISNT RUNNING DOUBLE DUELIST
COPY T1
DO SOMETHING ATLEAST

prx runs double duelist differently compared to t1