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Ronyko23 [#4]If edg or t1 win. Then its over for na too lol.No trophy for solid year gonna sting bad for so called best region. If somehow g2 choke then there is no hope for other na teams.
100T will cook in split 1 like they did last year, it's part of the script
penpen [#10]just an overall tally
AMER: 5
EMEA: 5
APAC: 1 (2 now LETS GO T1)
CN: 1
pele ahh statistic
Cacachocolat [#6]Holly shit bro, you guys can not stop talking about it?
Even when EMEA wins something fans are not as as annoying as y'all.
even if emea win then it's a "one team region"
Apaqt [#21]TH came 2nd back to back and Europe still has 5 trophies and is tied to NA and ofc Apac isn't even close. Most of European talent is in CS just like most talent is in valorant but still EU has great teams and they will surely win again and ofc Paris is a homeground
pls tell pasha to get out of retirement
OlsiEffect [#8]didn't heretics alone sent NA teams home
2-0 100t
3-0 G2
2-1 SEN
3-1 lev
and reached 2 finalsmaster 1 is so lame most teams don't play on full potential
yet NA is known for winning master 1 every year and thats it
EG was lucky LOUD was in that BO5 and not FNC.
Na won Rejavick in 2022 then won no shit💀
While FNC were dominating whole circuit NA wasn't there💀
EU has a bad year NA starts yapping while having less trophies than Europe
Er3ngenes1s [#22]pls tell pasha to get out of retirement
Not until snax is still in G2💀 but we have siuhy
OlsiEffect [#8]didn't heretics alone sent NA teams home
2-0 100t
3-0 G2
2-1 SEN
3-1 lev
and reached 2 finalsmaster 1 is so lame most teams don't play on full potential
yet NA is known for winning master 1 every year and thats it
EG was lucky LOUD was in that BO5 and not FNC.
EG was lucky LOUD was in that BO5 and not FNC.
Yeah the reason why FNC wasn't there was because LOUD bitch slapped them twice lmao and EG at the time would've done the exact same just like they did to your flair in the grand finals.
DBStudios [#27]EG was lucky LOUD was in that BO5 and not FNC.
Yeah the reason why FNC wasn't there was because LOUD bitch slapped them twice lmao and EG at the time would've done the exact same just like they did to your flair in the grand finals.
eg got bitch slapped twice by fnc at tokyo too
glitchwraith [#11]100T will cook in split 1 like they did last year, it's part of the script
and finish top4 at toronto? Yes.
Er3ngenes1s [#28]eg got bitch slapped twice by fnc at tokyo too
EDG got bitched slapped at Shanghai and became 10 times better to win champs, EG lost Tokyo and became 10 times better to win champs, you do realize that teams can evolve with time.
DBStudios [#26]Are they wrong tho? There was no other good EMEA team in 2023 besides FNC lmao and no good EMEA team besides TH in 2024.
China is the epitomy of a 1 team region then
Bigfish [#34]China is the epitomy of a 1 team region then
China is also 3 years behind the rest of the world in VCT yet they somehow managed to get their first trophy and win the most important event of the year in the first year
DBStudios [#26]Are they wrong tho? There was no other good EMEA team in 2023 besides FNC lmao and no good EMEA team besides TH in 2024.
I would say that in 2023 Fnatic was by far the best team ahead of everyone not just EMEA.
At LOCK//IN Navi finished 3rd/4th (Lost to FNC)
At Masters Team Liquid was still 5th/6th.
And at Champions FUT was 7th/8th (Lost to FNC)
And in 2024 Team Heretics was really only established as the best in EMEA in the 2nd half of the season.
At Madrid Karmine Corp was the No.1 seed and was close against Sentinels, the winner of the tournament
At Shanghai Fnatic finished 7th/8th and only lost to the winner Geng and to FUT
At Shanghai FUT finished 5th/6th
And at Champions Fnatic finished 5th/6th
While in both years there was a clear best team from the region, the other teams were still playing pretty close to the top level at least placement wise.
Ory [#36]I would say that in 2023 Fnatic was by far the best team ahead of everyone not just EMEA.
At LOCK//IN Navi finished 3rd/4th (Lost to FNC)
At Masters Team Liquid was still 5th/6th.
And at Champions FUT was 7th/8th (Lost to FNC)And in 2024 Team Heretics was really only established as the best in EMEA in the 2nd half of the season.
At Madrid Karmine Corp was the No.1 seed and was close against Sentinels, the winner of the tournament
At Shanghai Fnatic finished 7th/8th and only lost to the winner Geng and to FUT
At Shanghai FUT finished 5th/6th
And at Champions Fnatic finished 5th/6thWhile in both years there was a clear best team from the region, the other teams were still playing pretty close to the top level at least placement wise.
Well I mean to counter your argument
While in both years there was a clear best team from the region, the other teams were still playing pretty close to the top level at least placement wise.
This is just completely false lmao
NAVI in 23 was so ass lmao, sure they scored high in lock//in but then they got grouped in the remaining two events.
TL literally got a free pass into playoffs then they went 1-2.
FUT was not even a top 10 team at champs and only got into playoffs through beating the pacific third seed twice.
None of these teams were close to FNC or even a top 10 team in the world.
5th-6th place is no where close to the "top level at least placement wise" to 1st and 2nd.
KC got eliminated in the swiss stage of madrid (not a really good showing from the #1 seed of EMEA) and then never showed up to an event ever again.
Once again FNC got a free pass to playoffs at Shanghai then bombed out 0-2 and getting 5th-6th at champs is a pretty good showing but no anywhere close to a top 5 team or close to TH.
FUT finishing 5th-6th is not impressive from almost losing to DRG and a broken LEV is not the same level of TH.
Once again none of these teams were even close to TH in 2024.
5th-6th is not "pretty close to the top level at least placement wise" compared to 1st and 2nd.
reaper_rega08 [#33]I like how the comment started from 2023 Champs lmao. As if we never had Valorant tournaments before.
Should start from 2024. 2023 and older are irrevelant
DBStudios [#37]Well I mean to counter your argument
While in both years there was a clear best team from the region, the other teams were still playing pretty close to the top level at least placement wise.
This is just completely false lmao
NAVI in 23 was so ass lmao, sure they scored high in lock//in but then they got grouped in the remaining two events.
TL literally got a free pass into playoffs then they went 1-2.
FUT was not even a top 10 team at champs and only got into playoffs through beating the pacific third seed twice.None of these teams were close to FNC or even a top 10 team in the world.
5th-6th place is no where close to the "top level at least placement wise" to 1st and 2nd.
KC got eliminated in the swiss stage of madrid (not a really good showing from the #1 seed of EMEA) and then never showed up to an event ever again.
Once again FNC got a free pass to playoffs at Shanghai then bombed out 0-2 and getting 5th-6th at champs is a pretty good showing but no anywhere close to a top 5 team or close to TH.
FUT finishing 5th-6th is not impressive from almost losing to DRG and a broken LEV is not the same level of TH.Once again none of these teams were even close to TH in 2024.
5th-6th is not "pretty close to the top level at least placement wise" compared to 1st and 2nd.
I agree with you on everything except 2 things
Saying 5th-6th is nowhere close to 1st or 2nd is a very crazy statement like if those are going to be "nowhere close" ranks then it should always be obvious who wins an event since other than 2 teams the others will be seen as "nowhere close"
And why is it that when an EMEA team beats and even stomps a team at an international, its "broken [team]" or "[team] fluked this win" but when any other team beats an EMEA team its "Memea"? Like if you think that DRG FUT game was a close one and if you think Fut almost lost to Drg, then you should be saying the same thing for the G2 VIT game since the first map H2 came back from 8-12 to make it 15-13 and we dont know who coulvde won the third map if that happened therefore G2 almost lost to VIT right?
DBStudios [#32]EDG got bitched slapped at Shanghai and became 10 times better to win champs, EG lost Tokyo and became 10 times better to win champs, you do realize that teams can evolve with time.
and yeah the ones who already beat em cant evolve? everybody know loud was fnc's kryptonite
Selfim [#39]I agree with you on everything except 2 things
Saying 5th-6th is nowhere close to 1st or 2nd is a very crazy statement like if those are going to be "nowhere close" ranks then it should always be obvious who wins an event since other than 2 teams the others will be seen as "nowhere close"
And why is it that when an EMEA team beats and even stomps a team at an international, its "broken [team]" or "[team] fluked this win" but when any other team beats an EMEA team its "Memea"? Like if you think that DRG FUT game was a close one and if you think Fut almost lost to Drg, then you should be saying the same thing for the G2 VIT game since the first map H2 came back from 8-12 to make it 15-13 and we dont know who coulvde won the third map if that happened therefore G2 almost lost to VIT right?
3rd and 4th maybe pretty close to the top level placement wise but 5th-6th? nah, that's like saying some random top 5 finisher at the Olympics was on the same level as the gold/silver medalist. There's a reason they got gold/silver and the other person didn't.
Er3ngenes1s [#41]and yeah the ones who already beat em cant evolve? everybody know loud was fnc's kryptonite
Kryptonite this kryptonite that, its legit just an excuse for a team couldn't adapt to another team lmao.
DBStudios [#43]Kryptonite this kryptonite that, its legit just an excuse for a team couldn't adapt to another team lmao.
as i said, they shit stomped EG twice in front of ur eyes.
Er3ngenes1s [#44]as i said, they shit stomped EG twice in front of ur eyes.
Idk if it's just a singaporean trait and being arrogant asf but Tokyo and LA are two different events lmao, LOUD shitting on FNC and then losing to EG is the same event.
DBStudios [#35]China is also 3 years behind the rest of the world in VCT yet they somehow managed to get their first trophy and win the most important event of the year in the first year
acting like edg didnt qualify to every event since champions 2022... ur the epitomy of a 1 team region. please dont speak
DBStudios [#37]Well I mean to counter your argument
While in both years there was a clear best team from the region, the other teams were still playing pretty close to the top level at least placement wise.
This is just completely false lmao
NAVI in 23 was so ass lmao, sure they scored high in lock//in but then they got grouped in the remaining two events.
TL literally got a free pass into playoffs then they went 1-2.
FUT was not even a top 10 team at champs and only got into playoffs through beating the pacific third seed twice.None of these teams were close to FNC or even a top 10 team in the world.
5th-6th place is no where close to the "top level at least placement wise" to 1st and 2nd.
KC got eliminated in the swiss stage of madrid (not a really good showing from the #1 seed of EMEA) and then never showed up to an event ever again.
Once again FNC got a free pass to playoffs at Shanghai then bombed out 0-2 and getting 5th-6th at champs is a pretty good showing but no anywhere close to a top 5 team or close to TH.
FUT finishing 5th-6th is not impressive from almost losing to DRG and a broken LEV is not the same level of TH.Once again none of these teams were even close to TH in 2024.
5th-6th is not "pretty close to the top level at least placement wise" compared to 1st and 2nd.
1st place in an international -> Best team in the world
6th place in an international -> Top 6 in the world
That seems pretty close.
Btw i wanna know what you meant regarding a broken lev
DBStudios [#37]Well I mean to counter your argument
While in both years there was a clear best team from the region, the other teams were still playing pretty close to the top level at least placement wise.
This is just completely false lmao
NAVI in 23 was so ass lmao, sure they scored high in lock//in but then they got grouped in the remaining two events.
TL literally got a free pass into playoffs then they went 1-2.
FUT was not even a top 10 team at champs and only got into playoffs through beating the pacific third seed twice.None of these teams were close to FNC or even a top 10 team in the world.
5th-6th place is no where close to the "top level at least placement wise" to 1st and 2nd.
KC got eliminated in the swiss stage of madrid (not a really good showing from the #1 seed of EMEA) and then never showed up to an event ever again.
Once again FNC got a free pass to playoffs at Shanghai then bombed out 0-2 and getting 5th-6th at champs is a pretty good showing but no anywhere close to a top 5 team or close to TH.
FUT finishing 5th-6th is not impressive from almost losing to DRG and a broken LEV is not the same level of TH.Once again none of these teams were even close to TH in 2024.
5th-6th is not "pretty close to the top level at least placement wise" compared to 1st and 2nd.
"None of these teams were close to FNC or even a top 10 team in the world."
Newsflash: FNC lost 3 times in the entire year, once to TL (EMEA) and twice to LOUD
No other team has beaten fnc in 2023 they were in a league of their own
Cacachocolat [#6]Holly shit bro, you guys can not stop talking about it?
Even when EMEA wins something fans are not as as annoying as y'all.
EMEA fans are absolutely the ones who chat the most despite being dogshit. Don't try and turn this around lmao. If NA lost we would've about 5 million NA laugh threads from EMEA users lol
OliverQueen_ [#49]EMEA fans are absolutely the ones who chat the most despite being dogshit. Don't try and turn this around lmao. If NA lost we would've about 5 million NA laugh threads from EMEA users lol
No they don't, especially since this website and the val competitive reddit is very America's biased.
Do not play the victim card.
Cacachocolat [#50]No they don't, especially since this website and the val competitive reddit is very America's biased.
Do not play the victim card.
Bro you're like an npc did you see this site when sen lost 13-1? Just accept your fat L and stop crying you do it to others lmao. Even in twitch chat EU always talks the most. Yall are the ones always playing the victim when people do to you what you did to them.
OliverQueen_ [#51]Bro you're like an npc did you see this site when sen lost 13-1? Just accept your fat L and stop crying you do it to others lmao. Even in twitch chat EU always talks the most. Yall are the ones always playing the victim when people do to you what you did to them.
Bro you even made an alt to trashtalk EMEA, that says it all, low life user.
You even resort to insult me, that's how mad you are.
Get a life bro, seriously.
Cacachocolat [#52]Bro you even made an alt to trashtalk EMEA, that says it all, low life user.
You even resort to insult me, that's how mad you are.
Get a life bro, seriously.
First off, this isnt an ult. Secondly, i'm not insulting you i'm simply describing your behaviour considering youre trying to ignore the fact that EMEA are the biggest shit talkers with no results in the last 2 years lmao. legit cry more
OliverQueen_ [#54]First off, this isnt an ult. Secondly, i'm not insulting you i'm simply describing your behaviour considering youre trying to ignore the fact that EMEA are the biggest shit talkers with no results in the last 2 years lmao. legit cry more
They are in fact not the biggest shit talkers.
This site is heavily NA biased and you know it lmao.
1One1 [#38]Should start from 2024. 2023 and older are irrevelant
I would have taken you a little serious if you said from 2023 but you said 2024 cuz Emea didn't win that year do yall have trauma from FNC dominance from 2023??
EMEA gotta have the most delusional users next to Sen fans lmao, but at the very least Sen fans will still post on VLR after Sen gets shit on. MEMEA dissapeared from the face of VLR when Vitlity lost after hyping them up since the start of the tournament. Most embarrassing shit I've seen on this site.
DBStudios [#45]Idk if it's just a singaporean trait and being arrogant asf but Tokyo and LA are two different events lmao, LOUD shitting on FNC and then losing to EG is the same event.
both are in the same year and same season with less than 2 weeks of gap time between the events u closed eyes moron.
Notbaka [#57]Na eu apac cn blah blah doesn’t matter Russians carry everyone here
russian presence on LoL:
penpen [#10]just an overall tally
AMER: 5
EMEA: 5
APAC: 1 (2 now LETS GO T1)
CN: 1
we counting LOUD I suppose , but okay 2 continents vs 1 still 5-5...EU dominates head to head matches aganist americas region.....your most accomplished team is Brazilian....you need Brazil to make you look good
Ronyko23 [#4]If edg or t1 win. Then its over for na too lol.No trophy for solid year gonna sting bad for so called best region. If somehow g2 choke then there is no hope for other na teams.
and here we are hahaahahahah.....G2 classic ....damn bro they are hunting PRX on choking department, but PRX at least doesn't play lame boring Valorant
efweema [#64]if they make a 5 stack with full russian goats its over for other regions
https://i.imgur.com/LZqkvwj.png
trve i wont have to see this fuckhead's face again
DBStudios [#27]EG was lucky LOUD was in that BO5 and not FNC.
Yeah the reason why FNC wasn't there was because LOUD bitch slapped them twice lmao and EG at the time would've done the exact same just like they did to your flair in the grand finals.
if you know FNC the fact is they never lost a BO5 since 2021 Rekjavik final against SEN. even then all 3 maps were 2 rounds differential so they were not dominated fully. other B05 lost is aganist Team Liquid in VCT 2023(and lets be honest do I need to explain that the final was not even taken serious. it didn't even matter cause they had won Lock/IN and after won TOKYO Master in real domination fashion 4 out 5 top Tokyo Players were from FNC ) LOUD somehow beat them twice but if i assure you that EG would have lost to FNC. even PRX would have lost
OlsiEffect [#66]if you know FNC the fact is they never lost a BO5 since 2021 Rekjavik final against SEN. even then all 3 maps were 2 rounds differential so they were not dominated fully. other B05 lost is aganist Team Liquid in VCT 2023(and lets be honest do I need to explain that the final was not even taken serious. it didn't even matter cause they had won Lock/IN and after won TOKYO Master in real domination fashion 4 out 5 top Tokyo Players were from FNC ) LOUD somehow beat them twice but if i assure you that EG would have lost to FNC. even PRX would have lost
Let's see what would've happened, FNC bans Pearl and EG bans Haven, The remaining maps Ascent (EG was the best itw on), Fracture (EG was the best itw on), Bind (FNC got 13-1ed previously by DRX on it), Lotus (last time FNC played they got 13-6ed and EG beat LOUD 13-4 on that map), and Split (50-50 but more in EG's favor).
EG is 5-0 to FNC in maps lmao
DBStudios [#67]Let's see what would've happened, FNC bans Pearl and EG bans Haven, The remaining maps Ascent (EG was the best itw on), Fracture (EG was the best itw on), Bind (FNC got 13-1ed previously by DRX on it), Lotus (last time FNC played they got 13-6ed and EG beat LOUD 13-4 on that map), and Split (50-50 but more in EG's favor).
EG is 5-0 to FNC in maps lmao
3 year old analysis....FNC always best teams on B05 . EG would have won fracture and thats it. they didn't play normal comp on bind ofc they lost and still overcame that map and won 2 in row....they were beaten by their kryptonite LOUD and we all know how it would have gone if it wasn't for LOUD
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