i dont see it being said about NA enough
AMERICAS was consistently 1-3 team region
while EMEA has gone from 0-4 (up and down)
EMEA:
2021: 2.5, 3.5, 4.5 team region (FNC, TL, GMB -> GMB, G2, ACE, SMB -> GMB, ACE, TL, FNC, GUILD)
2022: 4.5, 3, 2.5 team region (FPX, FNC, G2, TL, GMB -> FPX, GUILD, FNC -> FPX, FNC, TL)
2023: 2, 1.5, 1 team region (FNC, NAVI -> FNC, TL -> FNC)
2024: 0, 2, 2 team region (- -> TH, FUT -> TH, FNC)
2025: 1.5, ?, ? team region (VIT, TL -> ? -> ?)
AMER:
2021: 2, 3, 1 team region (SEN, V1 -> ENVY, 100T, SEN -> KRU)
2022: 2.5, 1, 3 team region (OPTC, LOUD, TGRD -> OPTC -> LOUD, OPTC, XSET)
2023: 2, 2, 2 team region (LOUD, NRG -> EG, NRG -> EG, LOUD)
2024: 2, 2, 2 team region (SEN, LOUD -> G2, 100T -> LEV, SEN)
2025: 1, ?, ? team region (G2 -> ? -> ?)
2021 Guild - ok fine fair point lol
2021 SMB - "lol"? bro they just got unlucky with groups in Berlin (Acend and SMB in same group)
2022 G2 - beat ZETA (who got 3rd) and got 5th-6th
2023 Liquid - got 5th-6th and beat EDG (who beat LOUD btw)
2024 FUT - bro they beat LEV, FNC, DRG and got 5th-6th
any americas ones u disagree with (like werent added)
i actually don’t think ur americas list is bad i just think you overrate a lot of emea teams
smb could be fair i didnt watch vct then so i’ll give you that
g2 were the 1 seed in emea and they won 1 game and never made another international
2023 liquid weren’t that bad but they felt more disappointing bc they went from being the only team to beat fnatic to just being… mid… again…
and fut were so bad lmao they beat drg (fodder) lev (actively throwing on sunset) lost 26-5 to 100t (who finished 4th) beat fnatic (decent result tbf) and then got put in their place by th
2021 berlin: if we count ace then we have to count kru aswell.
2021 champs: surely we count sen or envy aswell? if fnatic won an event this year we wouldnt call them a one team region if they had them and someone else and fnatic at an event
2022 reyk: if you count liquid if you have to count guard aswell they placed the same, and surely we get rid of fnc they favorites and they placed 11-12th and fpx didnt even actually play at the event.
2022 copenhagen: loud should be included aswell, imagine if vitality and heretics played eachother in a elim at group stage, wouldnt be fair to call them 1 team region. ands again if we count guild we have to count Lev because they placed the same.
2023 tokyo: we count loud because before going into tokyo they were favorites lets be honest, they tossed not bcs they wree bad but because they decided to for no reason change comps and not give aspas op.
2025 bangkok: i refuse to believ were counting liquid as a actual team when the whole narrative has been the 2nd teams were way weaker than 1st seed and they were all kinda bad excluding t1
2021 Berlin: look at the groups... - 0/8 bait
2021 Champs: nothing needs to be said. the fact u didnt even mention c9 = you are clueless and didnt watch back then + - 0/8 bait
2022 Reykjavik: fair point, but TGRD couldnt beat OPTC while TL beat XERXIA who dominated OPTC (difference despite same placement)
2022 Copenhagen: LOUD lost to KRU, which got dominated by GUILD and OPTIC. - 0/8 bait
2023 Tokyo: is this some bs cope? LOUD were not even favorites and had a worst performance than NAVI (who got 11th-12th) - 0/8 bait
2025 Bangkok: fixed to make TL 1.5 (still must be a difference between TL and SEN)
why does it matter loud lost to kru, my point stands that if the 2 of the 3 best teams in the world beat eachother and they are both in the same region. it doesnt invalidate the region.
Loud were favorites just say u didnt watch the event the won americas and 3-0 nrg
tl shouldnt even be 0.5. just because sen is shit doesnt make liquid even less shit, sen had a chance to 2-0 and they tossed bcs both teams are mid
Copenhagen:
man this is some straight up cope. I could include MANY more EMEA teams if I used this dogshit logic.
Tokyo: LOUD were NOT favorites LMFAOOO. I was there during Tokyo and majority picked FNATIC to win Tokyo (even if they got 2nd in EMEA). Also them being favorites or not doesnt change anything here as they didnt perform.
Bangkok:
sen had a chance to 2-0
they didnt though. and bind happened.
you couldnt use the logic i used for copenhagen because no other emeas team faced off against eachother to eachother (at groupgstage) when they were both in the top 3 in the world
being a favorites doesnt mean the number one to win, being a favorite can mean you are a favorite to make top 3, or most people have you placing high.
Sen didnt 2-0 because they were ass yeah but liquid also have to be pretty shit to almost get 2-0 by sen no?