Anyone know what team is the best throughout all of esports not just valorant? Vitality comes to mind cuz they have a top 5 cs team but I know there are more games that I don't follow so I was wondering if anyone else knew
w1atrak [#15]Excuse me?
tbf they're throwing money at pretty much every esport so i kinda understand the argument
they haven't had that much success though so idk
As it stands, and if we're only talking about the "big" esports, Fnatic. They're the only team off the top of my head that has had success in all three "big money" esports (CS, Val, and LoL).
FNC had that dominant era in CS. In Val, they had a really dominant year (2023) as well as having qualified for every tournament until recently. And in LoL, an esport obviously dominated by Asian teams, they've at least qualified to every Worlds except for 2 (2012 and 2016). They even won the first Worlds and got runner-up in 2018.
I think the next closest is G2, which is only really held back because of the lack of Valorant accolades. By most accounts they're a relatively new team, since the org was originally stuck in t2 before acquiring the old Guard core when TGRD won ascension.
A lot of other orgs have also had a lot of success in other esports that I don't really watch or care for, so it really depends on which esports you're basing your comparisons off of. If you want to include Fortnite (random example), suddenly SEN has a lot of accolades because of Bugha.
edit because I misread and thought FNC only got runner-up in a Worlds when they actually won the first one
LycheeBlade [#18]As it stands, and if we're only talking about the "big" esports, Fnatic. They're the only team off the top of my head that has had success in all three "big money" esports (CS, Val, and LoL).
FNC had that dominant era in CS. In Val, they had a really dominant year (2023) as well as having qualified for every tournament until recently. And in LoL, an esport obviously dominated by Asian teams, they've at least qualified to every Worlds except for 2 (2012 and 2016). They even won the first Worlds and got runner-up in 2018.
I think the next closest is G2, which is only really held back because of the lack of Valorant accolades. By most accounts they're a relatively new team, since the org was originally stuck in t2 before acquiring the old Guard core when TGRD won ascension.
A lot of other orgs have also had a lot of success in other esports that I don't really watch or care for, so it really depends on which esports you're basing your comparisons off of. If you want to include Fortnite (random example), suddenly SEN has a lot of accolades because of Bugha.
edit because I misread and thought FNC only got runner-up in a Worlds when they actually won the first one
G2 got semis in val in 2021 and 3rd in shanghai thats gotta be worth something for them
GambleNats [#19]G2 got semis in val in 2021 and 3rd in shanghai thats gotta be worth something for them
It does, but when you compare that to two LAN wins for FNC then G2 has little to work with still. It also begs the question of how much weight a pre-franchise LAN placement/win should have. (I think they count equally, but Val esports before franchising was also the wild west)
In terms of earnings: TL. However they suck in like every game but dota 2 and they are in like every esports game they can apply.
But it pretty much comes down to FNC and G2. FNC are the only non asian team to win worlds and getting second in 2018, 2 masters, and a major. While doing that they were very consistent, always being in the top of thier region and quallifying to most international events. However FNC have been a bit off lately so that can be taken in account.
G2 I think have the most potential while being successful. Their accolades are ok as they never won worlds, a major, or a masters/champs. They have pretty good tho with a second in worlds, multiple blast finals and IEMs, and the acenssion trophy if we count that. But They have a lot of potential with their CS and Val rosters. They have one of the best opers in the world (m0nesy) and a very strong val team. G2 is very sucsessful in the RL scene so there is that to account for.
If I had to pick one, it would be FNC but I do think G2 will catch up
m0rtem [#21]In terms of earnings: TL. However they suck in like every game but dota 2 and they are in like every esports game they can apply.
But it pretty much comes down to FNC and G2. FNC are the only non asian team to win worlds and getting second in 2018, 2 masters, and a major. While doing that they were very consistent, always being in the top of thier region and quallifying to most international events. However FNC have been a bit off lately so that can be taken in account.G2 I think have the most potential while being successful. Their accolades are ok as they never won worlds, a major, or a masters/champs. They have pretty good tho with a second in worlds, multiple blast finals and IEMs, and the acenssion trophy if we count that. But They have a lot of potential with their CS and Val rosters. They have one of the best opers in the world (m0nesy) and a very strong val team. G2 is very sucsessful in the RL scene so there is that to account for.
If I had to pick one, it would be FNC but I do think G2 will catch up
https://www.esportsearnings.com/teams
U forgot Navi
G2, TL, FNC and NAVI are practically the best orgs, but i would say FNC is the best one overall
Tomczi [#22]https://www.esportsearnings.com/teams
U forgot Navi
G2, TL, FNC and NAVI are practically the best orgs, but i would say FNC is the best one overall
yeah but navi farmed CS and early TI's in Dota.
Tomczi [#22]https://www.esportsearnings.com/teams
U forgot Navi
G2, TL, FNC and NAVI are practically the best orgs, but i would say FNC is the best one overall
oh ye I did. insane cs team for idk how long. I don't necessarly think they are as good in overall esports success as like fnatic and g2 simply because they are a bit weaker in other games. their next highest earned is dota but dota prizepools were infalted like hell back in the day. They also have it good in pubg as they won the pubg championship in 2022. But still its not good enough to say they are better than like G2 imo
Nef0r0 [#23]yeah but navi farmed CS and early TI's in Dota.
Yeah but even if you exclude dota they still got good earnings from many games
m0rtem [#25]oh ye I did. insane cs team for idk how long. I don't necessarly think they are as good in overall esports success as like fnatic and g2 simply because they are a bit weaker in other games. their next highest earned is dota but dota prizepools were infalted like hell back in the day. They also have it good in pubg as they won the pubg championship in 2022. But still its not good enough to say they are better than like G2 imo
Yeah they are definitely not the best, but at least top 5-6 orgs of all time imo
Cheasle2 [#24]Nah Falcons suck, even with their infinite money
they won overwatch stockholm + 3rd at ALGS i think theyre doing good decent enough
Alzi [#28]they won overwatch stockholm + 3rd at ALGS i think theyre doing good decent enough
their cs team alone has lost millions