Top 30 in CN (Help)

Top 30 players in CN

HM: Rb, SpiritZ1, Coconut, Juicy

1. Zmjjkk
2. Smoggy
3. CHICHOO
4. nobody
5. Kai
6. Luok1ng
7. FengF
8. Life
9. Heybay
10. Biank
11. Yosemite
12. GuanG
13. Stew
14. Vo0kashu
15. S1Mon
16. Swerl
17. Autumn
18. happywei
19. AAAAY
20. Nephh
21. Whzy
22. BerLIN
23. Lysoar
24. Rarga
25. Flex1n
26. Z1yan
27. Spring
28. Knight
29. Haodong
30. Nicc

I made this list but im super not happy with it, yet im not sure what to change, please mention anything you think is outrageous

Is this based on fragging? Cause Simon is way too low but then nobody is kinda high

Viva?

1. Rb

Uncleben [#2]

Is this based on fragging? Cause Simon is way too low but then nobody is kinda high

nobody is so high because of his IGLing which I believe to be top tier. S1Mon is lower because yes his utility is toptier but everything else is pretty mid icl

Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]

1. Rb

real

Whzy at 21 is criminal

tserc [#3]

Viva?

I was considering him for sure but like I have no clue who to take off

peetherium [#7]

Whzy at 21 is criminal

true im gonna move him up a bit

put him at 14 for now. I think he edges out stew

Uncleben [#2]

Is this based on fragging? Cause Simon is way too low but then nobody is kinda high

personally, i think s1mon should be a bit lower

there’s a few players that i think are definitely better than him

rarga too low

CHEEEZPUFZEZ [#11]

rarga too low

Where would you put him?

Hades_Loves_Rb [#4]

1. Rb

I wanna move Rb to at least the main list. but idk his recent performance hasnt been it

GambleNats [#12]

Where would you put him?

idk actually probs above stew

GambleNats [#8]

I was considering him for sure but like I have no clue who to take off

Surely Viva clears Haodong

Happywei is a crazy player

ButterflyEffect23 [#15]

Surely Viva clears Haodong

im gonna put viva just below haodong just because haodong is a pretty experienced IGL and somehow has been fragging for TEC and I will prob take off juicy from HM

I think the most outrageous thing is that you should have made this top 60!

Personally think happywei is top 10. Rarga should probably be higher as well

C0nfedant [#16]

Happywei is a crazy player

I agree, moved him above S1Mon

merciless-pity8989-89 [#10]

personally, i think s1mon should be a bit lower

there’s a few players that i think are definitely better than him

theres a reason why EDG looked so much better after they got him....support players are always underrated like crazy, kills dont really matter if the enemies are always perma blind/stunned cuz of him

thjing [#19]

Personally think happywei is top 10. Rarga should probably be higher as well

it really is the dillemma of seeing some of the other players go to international events that dragging other people down. maybe im a little to bias towards that. Like it feels really uncomfortable to move like Ragra above aaaay or autumn

GambleNats [#22]

it really is the dillemma of seeing some of the other players go to international events that dragging other people down. maybe im a little to bias towards that. Like it feels really uncomfortable to move like Ragra above aaaay or autumn

That’s fair enough I suppose. I think he should still be above lysoar (never performed great internationally) Nephh (just think he is better) and Swerl (he is more consistent) but again a lot of this is subjective.

berlin 22 rarga 24 and nicc 30 is crazy

happywei is top 10 at least

hfmi0dzjc9z7 (idk i just wanted to say that)

aaoooooooooooa [#25]

happywei is top 10 at least

okay, 3 people have said this. I am convinced

yueyou [#24]

berlin 22 rarga 24 and nicc 30 is crazy

everyone on fpx is rated too high

kai is better than nobody

yueyou [#28]

everyone on fpx is rated too high

Really? I think FPX have incredible individuals and just have shitty comps and plans.
also do you think nicc should be higher or lower

GambleNats [#30]

Really? I think FPX have incredible individuals and just have shitty comps and plans.
also do you think nicc should be higher or lower

nicc should be higher

1243 [#29]

kai is better than nobody

Idk, I rate nobody as the best igl itw, will consider it more tho

yueyou [#31]

nicc should be higher

he has more assists per round and acs than simon while also igling and drg also went on a top 4 run

yueyou [#33]

he has more assists per round and acs than simon while also igling and drg also went on a top 4 run

I decided to put Nicc above BerLIN

rarga is def a lot higher

1-10 look fine

11-30 are definitely the wrong order

maximumthehormone [#35]

rarga is def a lot higher

I now put Rarga at 19, how much higher do think he should be

texts [#36]

1-10 look fine

11-30 are definitely the wrong order

Zmjjkk
Smoggy
CHICHOO
nobody
Kai
Luok1ng
FengF
Life
Heybay
Happywei
Biank
Yosemite
GuanG
Stew
Whzy
Vo0kashu
S1Mon
Swerl
Rarga
Autumn
AAAAY
Nephh
Nicc
BerLIN
Flex1n
Z1yan
Spring
Knight
Haodong
Viva

did some editing lmk what you think

I think ezeir and slowly can get honourable mentions

LocoMonteiro [#21]

theres a reason why EDG looked so much better after they got him....support players are always underrated like crazy, kills dont really matter if the enemies are always perma blind/stunned cuz of him

sure he’s great but it always helps he have 4 demon on ur team. Also, most are just set plays, he mainly fixed EDG role issues. remember last year when they were running kk on kayo. It really got that bad, he is definitely still top 25 which is really good, but i see him more as the missing piece EDG needed.

GambleNats [#38]

Zmjjkk
Smoggy
CHICHOO
nobody
Kai
Luok1ng
FengF
Life
Heybay
Happywei
Biank
Yosemite
GuanG
Stew
Whzy
Vo0kashu
S1Mon
Swerl
Rarga
Autumn
AAAAY
Nephh
Nicc
BerLIN
Flex1n
Z1yan
Spring
Knight
Haodong
Viva

did some editing lmk what you think

1. ZmjjKK (highest peak and very consistent; easily and obviously the best player)
2. Smoggy (could peak as high as KangKang but he's the flex player so he can't be as consistent)
3. CHICHOO (most consistent sentinel player in CN)
4. nobody (a better IGL than Haodong whilst fragging more than him, stats tanked at first but it looks like hes back)
5. Kai (5th/6th could be either Kai or FengF, they are both good (same peaks) and regularly swap the sentinel role depending on the map)
6. FengF
7. LuoK1ng (somehow escaped TYLOO and looks really good)
8. Life (can peak to KangKang's level, but more inconsistent and on a worse team)
9. Happywei (this guy is the truth, top 10 rookie of all time IMO.)
10. Biank (kind of consistent, but when he's locked in he looks pretty good)
11. Heybay (the 3rd IGL in CN to get of group stage and into playoffs to an international event, and his calling looks good and he performs close to Biank)
12. Yosemite (was already a good player and looks like hes getting better)
13. Rarga (Rarga along with Happywei get XLG out of situations that they shouldn't win, his peak looks pretty good but he doesn't consistently peak to that level)
14. stew (he's either meh or should get bought out to a Korean team, his peak is higher than Rarga but his average level is the same as Rarga).
15. vo0kashu (he better be getting paid alot because he carries his team way too many times)
16. nephh (BLG brought in nephh and his IGLing made the team look so much better, and he's usually their second best or best player)
17. whzy (he used to carry this team a lot more but not anymore, he's still good though)
18. GuanG (most consistent player on NOVA and looks pretty good)
19. Swerl (Swerl is good, but he's not as consistent as GuanG imo, had higher hopes for Swerl)
20. Autumn (very inconsistent but we know he can look good)
21. S1mon (best flash initiator/support player in CN, and could be a top 5 support player but he can't shoot back bro)
22. Spring (Has potential to be a top 5 duelist but I would love to know what happened to Wolves during Kickoff because they should not be losing out this early)
23. Knight (good player not much to say)
24. Flex1n (Had good teams but got downgraded twice, went from Trace to TYLOO then Bilibili to DRG, he's better than most controllers in CN)
25. Z1yan (Carries his own weight on JDG and looks good)
26. Haodong (The fall from grace, but is still better than 90% of the IGLs in CN)
27. BerLIN (Another fall from grace, he had so much potential as an IGL, I hope FPX get their stuff together)
28. Slowly (someone save this guy, hes good but on such a bad team)
29. Viva (inconsistent but I rate him higher than most players in CN)
30. idk tbh literally could be anyone in CN

heres my list and why I put them there (24-30 are pretty replaceable imo its depending on the day)