Split apac to North Asia aka NA and SEA . Have Japanese and Korean team in NA and the rest of APAC team in SEA.
melvinkoekemans [#4]then we need vct na, vct SA and vct cis too
I mean direct qual to Lan for vct OCE goes hard, let the region exist for more than 1 team to 1 event every year
Get the Macca's sponsor ship going like old OCE Overwatch contenders.
Thats too early, but i'm working on having more data on the number of player per region (I kinda use premier for that since I can access something else)
And I realised that Korea have more premier team than NA, and isnt that far to match the 5 European T2 region combinate. So yeah at some point we may need to split in 2 the "Asia" and the "Pacific" region, especially if we take in account that :
So maybe the future is Franchised Pacific :
4 KR team
2 JP team
1 Oceanian team
1 Mongolia or Taiwanese team
4 Ascention team (That will probably be 3 or 4 KR teams, lets be honest, but will help to dilute the Korean talent to be sure they dont dominate too mush)
Franchised Asia (Still Too weak) :
5 SEA team (ID / MYSG / TH / PH / VN)
1 or 2 Indian team
Potentially 1 MENA team
Potentially TR or RU team that could help the region to grow bigger
4 Ascention team
bilim [#5]you guys overreaction. this is the first time sea team not performing. in franchise era, sea team never misses major tournament
valorant is almost as popular as league of legends in korea/china, knowing how dominating they are in league, it's bound to happen in valo as well.
bilim [#5]you guys overreaction. this is the first time sea team not performing. in franchise era, sea team never misses major tournament
SEA in 2023 - only PRX made it to the International stages (DRX,PRX,T1,ZETA)
SEA in 2024 - PRX and TLN (only champs) (PRX,GENG,DRX,TLN)
it was: no prx no party
*im only stating facts
Anguibok [#10]Thats too early, but i'm working on having more data on the number of player per region (I kinda use premier for that since I can access something else)
And I realised that Korea have more premier team than NA, and isnt that far to match the 5 European T2 region combinate. So yeah at some point we may need to split in 2 the "Asia" and the "Pacific" region, especially if we take in account that :
- Russia doesnt have a team
- MENA deosnt have a team
- India will grow and may need a 2nd at some point (And even a first), they already have more premier team than TR
- Oceania doesnt have a team
- Viet Nam doesnt have a team
- Germany doesnt (really) have a team
- Korea is the biggest T2 region before NA and have same number of premier team than BR that have (3 times less !)
- Faria want to reduce the number of franchied team for more ascended team, wish is not a problem in Americas and China since every T2 region have more than one team, so reducing the number of franchised team will not make a full region disappear from T1, while it's impossible to do so in APAC because we basically have 1 country = region, except for the 2 big mastodonte Japan and Korea (wish is impossible to reduce)
So maybe the future is Franchised Pacific :
4 KR team
2 JP team
1 Oceanian team
1 Mongolia or Taiwanese team
4 Ascention team (That will probably be 3 or 4 KR teams, lets be honest, but will help to dilute the Korean talent to be sure they dont dominate too mush)
Franchised Asia (Still Too weak) :
5 SEA team (ID / MYSG / TH / PH / VN)
1 or 2 Indian team
Potentially 1 MENA team
Potentially TR or RU team that could help the region to grow bigger
4 Ascention team
thats too complicated, riot can just simply copy what they just implemented in lol esports recently, if china and korea gets too dominant
melvinkoekemans [#4]then we need vct na, vct SA and vct cis too
Amer shouldn't split, we don't need more team in NA nor in SA, 2 BR team is enough to cover the BR market, and 4 NA team is also enough to cover the NA market while giving enough time to play to talent (Will probably have more than 4 team anyway thaks to Ascention), we don't need more structure in the T1 that will cover market that are already covered, and we don't need more NA teams that will dillute the talent (The only new structure we need in T1 is a structure that will cover the weak LAN market)
But yeah, CIS REALLY need to be place in any region and have some structure that cover them, it can be EMEA or a new "West Asia" region, both are good to me
BBTBNWJDFOTSYK [#13]thats too complicated, riot can just simply copy what they just implemented in lol esports recently, if china and korea gets too dominant
How thats too complicated ? It basically split APAC in 2 based on their scrim zone (And also timezone)
lead_water_enjoyer [#12]SEA in 2023 - only PRX made it to the International stages (DRX,PRX,T1,ZETA)
SEA in 2024 - PRX and TLN (only champs) (PRX,GENG,DRX,TLN)it was: no prx no party
*im only stating facts
prx is SEA team bro. So this is the only time sea team has missed a major tournament.
bilim [#16]prx is SEA team bro. So this is the only time sea team has missed a major tournament.
yea no shit they are SEA team. I'm just saying that it was just prx for the whole time except tln, and now that prx looks lost and other teams are improving and understanding the meta well, its not much of an overreaction.
Anguibok [#10]Thats too early, but i'm working on having more data on the number of player per region (I kinda use premier for that since I can access something else)
And I realised that Korea have more premier team than NA, and isnt that far to match the 5 European T2 region combinate. So yeah at some point we may need to split in 2 the "Asia" and the "Pacific" region, especially if we take in account that :
- Russia doesnt have a team
- MENA deosnt have a team
- India will grow and may need a 2nd at some point (And even a first), they already have more premier team than TR
- Oceania doesnt have a team
- Viet Nam doesnt have a team
- Germany doesnt (really) have a team
- Korea is the biggest T2 region before NA and have same number of premier team than BR that have (3 times less !)
- Faria want to reduce the number of franchied team for more ascended team, wish is not a problem in Americas and China since every T2 region have more than one team, so reducing the number of franchised team will not make a full region disappear from T1, while it's impossible to do so in APAC because we basically have 1 country = region, except for the 2 big mastodonte Japan and Korea (wish is impossible to reduce)
So maybe the future is Franchised Pacific :
4 KR team
2 JP team
1 Oceanian team
1 Mongolia or Taiwanese team
4 Ascention team (That will probably be 3 or 4 KR teams, lets be honest, but will help to dilute the Korean talent to be sure they dont dominate too mush)
Franchised Asia (Still Too weak) :
5 SEA team (ID / MYSG / TH / PH / VN)
1 or 2 Indian team
Potentially 1 MENA team
Potentially TR or RU team that could help the region to grow bigger
4 Ascention team
Why put MENA or RU in asia? why not emea? MENA cant even play asia servers besides tokyo, also russia is never getting a region
GambleNats [#18]Why put MENA or RU in asia? why not emea? MENA cant even play asia servers besides tokyo, also russia is never getting a region
Why put MENA or RU in asia? why not emea? MENA cant even play asia servers besides tokyo,
ME is a part of Asia (Maghreb should go with France for ping and cultural reason), they can't play on Frankfurt and won't participate in the EMEA tournament, they don't have a T1 slot in EMEA and need one, EMEA has no German team nor Russian team, so the market is already saturated.
russia is never getting a region
When war will be over they will have their T2 region, and it would be weird to not grant them any T1 team, since they have no team in EMEA, they are geopolitics tention between Europe and Russia, and this "Asian" region lack of good player since they split, it wouldn't be dumb to put them in this region, so the SEA team don't suffer too mush of the loss of KR team, and KR finally can have their first team in the T1 without having to kick too many EMEA structure that are already established (You cant kick Navi, Fnc, KC, KOI, for fan reason, VIT, TL and TH because they are competent, and you need to keep 2 TR org so... They are no place left)
Ullyr [#3]Sure but the mongolz not looking too hot
they're actually pretty fucking ASS right now 😭😭😭
not this year but maybe we could get a decent mongolian team next year