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SEA Ranking / Tierlist

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valvenq

Updated 2021-10-10

This ranking / tierlist is based on the SEA Valorant scene right now, meaning teams like X10 Esports would be inaccurately included as there is no recent data to support their ranking. Roster changes have also been considered.

Tierlist |

SSS - Paper Rex
S+ - X10 Esports, Bleed eSports, Team Secret
S - Bleed eSports, ONIC G, Full Sense, Boom Esports, Louvre
A+ - Boom Esports, Kingsmen, Zeal Esports
A - Team Big BAAM, Foxy Araikordai, Alter Ego, XcN Gaming, CBT Gaming
B - CERBERUS Esports, Bigetron Astro, Nigma Galaxy, Sharper Esport, Morph Impact, Oasis Gaming
C - Team SMG, EGO, The Infinity Esports, Griffin Esports, Five Ace e-Sports

Ranking |

1 - Paper Rex
-- Gap --
2 - X10 Esports
3 - Team Secret
4 - Bleed eSports
5 - Full Sense
6 - ONIC G
7 - Louvre
8 - Boom Esports
9 - Kingsmen
10 - Zeal Esports
11 - Team Big BAAM
12 - Foxy Araikordai
13 - Alter Ego
14 - XcN Gaming
15 - CBT Gaming
16 - Nigma Galaxy
17 - Oasis Gaming
18 - CERBERUS Esports
19 - Sharper Esport
20 - Bigetron Astro
21 - Morph Impact
22 - The Infinity Esports
23 - Team SMG
24 - EGO
25 - Five Ace e-Sports
26 - Griffin Esports

There is a lot of individual bias in this ranking, so please recommend some changes. If you have any questions for my reasoning, I'll try my best to answer them.

EDIT:

Changes |

  • Moved top 10 rankings around:
    1. Full Sense has been considered as the better team in most cases despite lack of any recent performance.
    2. Team Secret, albeit a subpar performance in KJC, have been moved S+ tier and top 3. Although Team Secret needs to perform, I have to agree with a lot of what TMosura's post had stated.
    3. Team Big BAAM falls out of top 10.
    4. Zeal Esports have been moved up despite a 7th-8th performance in KJC.
    5. Kingsmen replaces Team Big BAAM and moves up. Boom Esports, despite promising roster changes, have been moved down.
    6. Louvre, despite finishing off Team Secret in KJC, remains the same.
    7. Bleed eSports, despite finishing in GF within KJC, have been moved down 1 place, but moved up in the tierlist to S+ with potential.
  • Added A+ tier, to distinctively put teams that are evidently not at yet S tier, but also better than A tier. Moved Boom Esports, Kingsmen and Zeal Esports.
  • Alter Ego and XcN moved up to A.
  • Nigma Galaxy and Sharper Esport moved down to B.
  • Added C tier. Moved Team SMG, EGO, The Infinity Esports, and Griffin Esports.
  • Added CBT Gaming, Bigetron Astro and Five Ace e-Sports (let me know of any other notable teams I should include).
  • Everything below top 10 in the rankings have been shifted to match the tierlist.

Thoughts |

Despite TMosura's suggestion of varying rankings, I think a specific value for 1 team gives us a more clear idea of the scene as a standing. I completely agree with what they say about teams being very close, but for this ranking I want it to be clear for those who aren't following the SEA scene which teams are more distinctively better than another.

I've also added SSS for PRX, whether it is inaccurate or not will depend on LCQ, but I'm 100% certain that they are currently the best team in SEA. After watching their games, and their obvious distinctive playstyle in accordance to the metas, as well as how they adapted perfectly to the KJC agent bans, there's a considerable gap between PRX and other SEA teams. Imagine KRU of SEA, that's how I see it. X10 Esports have yet to prove themselves of this caliber due to no recent performance. I honestly think that Paper Rex would've been a better candidate for Champions than Team Secret, but obviously Team Secret won that challenger playoffs fair and square.

As for top 10, TMosura's analysis of the scene is the most accurate I've seen as of date. SEA's top 10 cannot be ranked perfectly according to a specific ELO, as the variables of maps and agents make certain teams better or worse than others. Despite of performance, team chemistry and other notable factors, my decision on this ranking has been both personal bias and community bias. This is why I ask for suggestions on the ranking, because I know I alone will make human errors despite my analysis of the scene with statistics in mind.

Regardless, as a Canadian viewer following SEA and NA, I certainly think without a doubt of personal feelings, that SEA have the potential to be a top contender in Valorant.

This tierlist is to be updated again once APAC LCQ ends, which will determine a realistic standing for SEA coming into VCT 2022.

Please let me know if there are any other things I should change / include.

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hey thank you for wasting your 5 hours but I'm here to tell you we dont care.

tsm owns you.

#3
BAKA2535
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I guess swap LVR and Full sense

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Merc2 [#2]

hey thank you for wasting your 5 hours but I'm here to tell you we dont care.

tsm owns you.

my first ratio.

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Bleed and ONIC definitely new teams to watch out., I pretty much agree with this ranking, maybe TS higher than both of em (personal bias maybe) :D

edit: Maybe FS higher than BOOM and Big Baam lower cause they just lost two of their best players (Crazyguy i'd say best VN player?)

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yeah sure

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valvenq
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makoidk [#5]

Bleed and ONIC definitely new teams to watch out., I pretty much agree with this ranking, maybe TS higher than both of em (personal bias maybe) :D

edit: Maybe FS higher than BOOM and Big Baam lower cause they just lost two of their best players (Crazyguy i'd say best VN player?)

Team Secret will definitely perform well and have potential to be S+. Right now they're not playing at a level where they should be.

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BAKA2535 [#4]

my first ratio.

take my upvote

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valvenq [#7]

Team Secret will definitely perform well and have potential to be S+. Right now they're not playing at a level where they should be.

yeah definitely

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valvenq
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BAKA2535 [#3]

I guess swap LVR and Full sense

I need some reasoning for this, but I'll consider changing it. I personally think that Full Sense will underperform, but they are definitely one of the best teams in SEA.

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i'd say bigetron is better than Morpph Impact on this tier list, they just signin No1syboy(Former NXLG) and Cud is available on the next tourney, if only bigetron can hold famouz from quiting this team, Bigetron had a chance to be a Top 3 in Indonesian Valo Scene besides Onic G and Boom.

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This is how i would rank them rn:

1 - Paper Rex
2 - X10 Esports
3 - Team Secret
4 - ONIC G
5 - Bleed Esports
6 - FULL SENSE
7 - Boom Esports
8 - Louvre
9 - Zeal Esports
10 - Foxy Araikordai
11 - Team Big BAAM
12 - Kingsmen

#9 - 12 could be interchangeable

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valvenq
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Synoptic [#11]

i'd say bigetron is better than Morpph Impact on this tier list, they just signin No1syboy(Former NXLG) and Cud is available on the next tourney, if only bigetron can hold famouz from quiting this team, Bigetron had a chance to be a Top 3 in Indonesian Valo Scene besides Onic G and Boom.

I'll be sure to include them after KJC Invitational ends.

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makoidk [#5]

Bleed and ONIC definitely new teams to watch out., I pretty much agree with this ranking, maybe TS higher than both of em (personal bias maybe) :D

edit: Maybe FS higher than BOOM and Big Baam lower cause they just lost two of their best players (Crazyguy i'd say best VN player?)

the crazyguy departure is a straight L for big baam, really loves how the guys play, but I think he exploring other options, he can go outside of VN scene too considering his english is pretty good.

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valvenq
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makoidk [#12]

This is how i would rank them rn:

1 - Paper Rex
2 - X10 Esports
3 - Team Secret
4 - ONIC G
5 - Bleed Esports
6 - FULL SENSE
7 - Boom Esports
8 - Louvre
9 - Zeal Esports
10 - Foxy Araikordai
11 - Team Big BAAM
12 - Kingsmen

#9 - 12 could be interchangeable

This would be my list and is more accurate before KJC Invitational. Just like in any sport, the competitive scene changes and teams adapt. Rankings aren't static. The reasoning for Team Secret being 5 on my list is obvious due to their performance in KJC Invitational.

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Good work bro 👍

For me,

Paper Rex definitely S+ right now.

TS & X10, they can be S+ or S (I don't know their current peak yet), but both definitely are the current top 3 SEA with PRX.

Zeal probably A+, cus they are too good for A, but not as good as S.

If there a C-tier, I'll put SMG, EGO, & Griffin into C and add Bigetron Astro & new Bren lineup into B.

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hiyo
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Where’s cock and ball torture gaming

#18
makoidk
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hiyo [#17]

Where’s cock and ball torture gaming

ghahahhaha they need to be S++

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valvenq
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Tamag0 [#16]

Good work bro 👍

For me,

Paper Rex definitely S+ right now.

TS & X10, they can be S+ or S (I don't know their current peak yet), but both definitely are the current top 3 SEA with PRX.

Zeal probably A+, cus they are too good for A, but not as good as S.

If there a C-tier, I'll put SMG, EGO, & Griffin into C and add Bigetron Astro & new Bren lineup into B.

Thanks! My tierlist isn't that comprehensive as teams vary at certain maps and agents, but I will definitely use your suggestions.

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valvenq
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hiyo [#17]

Where’s cock and ball torture gaming

forgot about them, will put them at s++

#21
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i would swap LVR and FS

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good work

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BAKA2535 [#4]

my first ratio.

W

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Basing on the teams that you've listed:

S+ - Paper Rex, X10 Esports, and Team Secret
S - Bleed eSports, ONIC G, Full Sense, BOOM Esports
A+ - Kingsmen, Louvre, Big BAAM, Foxy Araikordai, Alter Ego
A - CERBERUS, XcN, Team SMG, Morph Impact, Five Ace, CBT
A- - The Infinity Esports, Griffin Esports

My rankings:

1-3. X10 Esports/Team Secret/Paper Rex
4-8. Bleed eSports/ONIC G/Full Sense/BOOM Esports

  1. Louvre
  2. Kingsmen
  3. Big BAAM
  4. Foxy Araikordai
  5. Alter Ego
  6. XcN
  7. Morph Impact
  8. CERBERUS
    13-14. CBT/Five Ace
  9. The Infinity
  10. Griffin

SEA as a whole is very close. You could argue the disparities between the domestic success and their inter-regional performance, but I can't for my sake give a definitive rank for anyone in the top 8. They're so close to each other, but at the same time, there's a distinct difference between the three that is Paper Rex, X10, and Secret and the likes of Bleed, ONIC G, etc. The rest is arguable, as honestly some of them are either flash-in-the-pan gods, infamous choker bots both domestically, and the scarce inter-regional appearances.

With bias in mind, I'm looking forward to the new rosters of ONIC, BOOM, and AE. The self-destruction of the old AE created one of the craziest roster-fiesta since the end of Stage 1 and 2, and the balance might be shifted towards BOOM and ONIC now that whatever nameless faces AE is recruiting will soon be revealed.

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Merc2 [#2]

hey thank you for wasting your 5 hours but I'm here to tell you we dont care.

tsm owns you.

TSM owns your mom + Hiko slaps her ass + steel pipes her down no cap

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fictional
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i think team Big Baam is in their lowest form rn since they lost their aimpower like crazyguy and redneval. but who knows?

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TMosura
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fictional [#26]

i think team Big Baam is in their lowest form rn since they lost their aimpower like crazyguy and redneval. but who knows?

Exactly

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bambamskrrt [#14]

the crazyguy departure is a straight L for big baam, really loves how the guys play, but I think he exploring other options, he can go outside of VN scene too considering his english is pretty good.

i actually think that signing crazyguy is the best decision for prx since they need a good sova player. but they choose to sign jiing another duelist player

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valvenq
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TMosura [#24]

Basing on the teams that you've listed:

S+ - Paper Rex, X10 Esports, and Team Secret
S - Bleed eSports, ONIC G, Full Sense, BOOM Esports
A+ - Kingsmen, Louvre, Big BAAM, Foxy Araikordai, Alter Ego
A - CERBERUS, XcN, Team SMG, Morph Impact, Five Ace, CBT
A- - The Infinity Esports, Griffin Esports

My rankings:

1-3. X10 Esports/Team Secret/Paper Rex
4-8. Bleed eSports/ONIC G/Full Sense/BOOM Esports

  1. Louvre
  2. Kingsmen
  3. Big BAAM
  4. Foxy Araikordai
  5. Alter Ego
  6. XcN
  7. Morph Impact
  8. CERBERUS
    13-14. CBT/Five Ace
  9. The Infinity
  10. Griffin

SEA as a whole is very close. You could argue the disparities between the domestic success and their inter-regional performance, but I can't for my sake give a definitive rank for anyone in the top 8. They're so close to each other, but at the same time, there's a distinct difference between the three that is Paper Rex, X10, and Secret and the likes of Bleed, ONIC G, etc. The rest is arguable, as honestly some of them are either flash-in-the-pan gods, infamous choker bots both domestically, and the scarce inter-regional appearances.

With bias in mind, I'm looking forward to the new rosters of ONIC, BOOM, and AE. The self-destruction of the old AE created one of the craziest roster-fiesta since the end of Stage 1 and 2, and the balance might be shifted towards BOOM and ONIC now that whatever nameless faces AE is recruiting will soon be revealed.

I like this. Considering there's a lot of factors to consider (agent bans, underperformance, roster changes) in KJC, your list is the most accurate I've seen.

Time to make a new regional ranking lol

  1. Singapore / Malaysia
  2. Thailand
  3. Philippines
  4. Indonesia
  5. Vietnam

edit: this was a joke btw

#30
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fictional [#26]

i think team Big Baam is in their lowest form rn since they lost their aimpower like crazyguy and redneval. but who knows?

Yes. Just like X10 and Full Sense, there's no recent data to know whos technically the better team. What's clear however, is that the scene is rapidly evolving and adapting to the current metas, which is good for SEA as a region.

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sWan10_exe [#21]

i would swap LVR and FS

Would consider if they didn't just beat Team Secret lol.

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valvenq [#31]

Would consider if they didn't just beat Team Secret lol.

lol

#33
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fictional [#28]

i actually think that signing crazyguy is the best decision for prx since they need a good sova player. but they choose to sign jiing another duelist player

Due the country restrictions, they can't add another roster outside MY/SG (in this case Crazyguy), unless they either kick f0rsaken or mindfreak.

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imagine caring about any region other then NA or EU LMAO

#35
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valvenq [#7]

Team Secret will definitely perform well and have potential to be S+. Right now they're not playing at a level where they should be.

KJC has agent bans bro they’re not gonna perform the same

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valvenq [#29]

I like this. Considering there's a lot of factors to consider (agent bans, underperformance, roster changes) in KJC, your list is the most accurate I've seen.

Time to make a new regional ranking lol

  1. Singapore / Malaysia
  2. Thailand
  3. Philippines
  4. Indonesia
  5. Vietnam

edit: this was a joke btw

Lulw Indo > PH
Thaildn only X10 and FS are competen
PH only secret other than is poor team poor region

#37
zenv
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nice list

#38
definitioNvlrt
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darkyamigami [#36]

Lulw Indo > PH
Thaildn only X10 and FS are competen
PH only secret other than is poor team poor region

how about zeal? they beat AE at KJC

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darkyamigami [#36]

Lulw Indo > PH
Thaildn only X10 and FS are competen
PH only secret other than is poor team poor region

indo has good teams but never won anything so far. the closest is 3rd place

#40
valvenq
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thanatos11 [#35]

KJC has agent bans bro they’re not gonna perform the same

This argument isn't that persuasive. Teams are suppose to adapt and use comps they aren't comfortable with, that's how metas work. If a team can't adapt or another team adapts better, then the teams at the top should still be at the top regardless of the agent bans. Even if they underperformed due to the agent bans, that just means that they cannot adapt well enough for the future.

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valvenq [#40]

This argument isn't that persuasive. Teams are suppose to adapt and use comps they aren't comfortable with, that's how metas work. If a team can't adapt or another team adapts better, then the teams at the top should still be at the top regardless of the agent bans. Even if they underperformed due to the agent bans, that just means that they cannot adapt well enough for the future.

nice statement bro

#42
valvenq
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thenutoriousPRO [#34]

imagine caring about any region other then NA or EU LMAO

Ruining Canada's reputation...

#43
cheaterr
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definitioNvlrt [#38]

how about zeal? they beat AE at KJC

AE has a new roster, also onic beat TS

#44
valvenq
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I don't want to be negative as this is a controversial take, but

PRX > TS.

PRX are the perfect representative for SEA. After that grand finals match there's no doubt in my mind they are literally unstoppable. If they qualified, they would have the most impact in Champions.

#45
valvenq
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TMosura [#24]

Basing on the teams that you've listed:

S+ - Paper Rex, X10 Esports, and Team Secret
S - Bleed eSports, ONIC G, Full Sense, BOOM Esports
A+ - Kingsmen, Louvre, Big BAAM, Foxy Araikordai, Alter Ego
A - CERBERUS, XcN, Team SMG, Morph Impact, Five Ace, CBT
A- - The Infinity Esports, Griffin Esports

My rankings:

1-3. X10 Esports/Team Secret/Paper Rex
4-8. Bleed eSports/ONIC G/Full Sense/BOOM Esports

  1. Louvre
  2. Kingsmen
  3. Big BAAM
  4. Foxy Araikordai
  5. Alter Ego
  6. XcN
  7. Morph Impact
  8. CERBERUS
    13-14. CBT/Five Ace
  9. The Infinity
  10. Griffin

SEA as a whole is very close. You could argue the disparities between the domestic success and their inter-regional performance, but I can't for my sake give a definitive rank for anyone in the top 8. They're so close to each other, but at the same time, there's a distinct difference between the three that is Paper Rex, X10, and Secret and the likes of Bleed, ONIC G, etc. The rest is arguable, as honestly some of them are either flash-in-the-pan gods, infamous choker bots both domestically, and the scarce inter-regional appearances.

With bias in mind, I'm looking forward to the new rosters of ONIC, BOOM, and AE. The self-destruction of the old AE created one of the craziest roster-fiesta since the end of Stage 1 and 2, and the balance might be shifted towards BOOM and ONIC now that whatever nameless faces AE is recruiting will soon be revealed.

I've updated the rankings, and I've credited you for most of the changes. Thanks for providing feedback!

#46
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This is putting too much credit to Paper Rex.

We cannot really say that there is a huuuuge gap between Paper Rex and other teams (We have not seen them play against really good SEA teams so far and they had a recent roster change).

The best team in SEA? Sure.

SS tier? Sure. But I doubt even if a team of the caliber of Gambit was based in SEA, they do not for a gap huge enough to be rated 2-3 tiers above Team Secret or X10.

The rest of the list is more or less ok.

#47
valvenq
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SnooTangerines [#46]

This is putting too much credit to Paper Rex.

We cannot really say that there is a huuuuge gap between Paper Rex and other teams (We have not seen them play against really good SEA teams so far and they had a recent roster change).

The best team in SEA? Sure.

SS tier? Sure. But I doubt even if a team of the caliber of Gambit was based in SEA, they do not for a gap huge enough to be rated 2-3 tiers above Team Secret or X10.

The rest of the list is more or less ok.

Yes. I'm not arguing that PRX is completely SSS tier, it's just a tierlist placement for the incoming APAC LCQ so I could understand where they actually place in terms of both inter-regional and international levels of Valorant. Take Full Sense as an example. Before my edit, I placed them below top 5 due to my own personal bias, and no recent performance. However, I have moved them up due to community bias. Once LCQ happens, their performance will directly update my rankings.

I think even making it in LCQ with VCT points places teams at a higher ranking. This is also why I put Boom Esports so high in the ranking due to their LCQ placement as well as their roster changes before my update.

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Wow.

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