hardest role | VLR.gg

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Taruuu1

what would be considered the hardest role to play at a high level/pro play

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sentinel

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sentinels cz your abilities to hold a site down are reduced to stall or js info gathering, even worse when they have to anchor which is like a big % of situations

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maybe its different at a high level

because senti is the easiest role and initiator hardest in general, but at pro play the players are so much better. might make me lean towards senti or duelist

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senti is the hardest, initiator is not even hard (u just need to have good comms and ability to not be selfish)

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i might be biased because i play senti and find it so easy. i have 70% winrate and 1.2-1.4 k/d with kj in immortal, but i feel like initiator is so much harder and i have to work so much more

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senti is not the hardest lmao all you need to do is have a setup for a site and just hold it down for your teammates to come. Your cypher trip gets triggered? just swing out and kill them. Your kj alarmbot gets triggered/they start planting? pop a molly. Its not that hard lmao.

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Kj turret broken ability

Someone hits turret? swing and dunk on them easy kill

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It's hard to be a good flex tbh, cuz you basically sacrifice your comfort to play whatever the team needs

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Specifically entry duelist

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Duelist is the hardest role

the ability to kill someone is harder than to activate a molly

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When Neon is a thing, duelist is not the hardest role lol.

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DBStudios

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Duelist: First engagement, has to bait out util, occasionally has to entry onto a site with 3 people on it, basically set up to die.
Controller: Bait the team basically, sit back and don't die.
Sentinel: On defense - google some random setup and hold the site and don't be stupid, on attack - put up a trip/turret and go lurk.
Initiator: Basically dump all of your util and comm.

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im talking about pro play not ranked

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DBStudios

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I'm also talking about pro play not ranked lmao

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Taruuu1

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pro sentinel players aren't googling random setups lmao

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DBStudios

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The ascent B site KJ setup has been recycled for how many years in pro play exactly? please tell me rq. What about pre changed sunset cypher setup on B?

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Taruuu1

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they arent just googling random setups tho

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DBStudios

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Yeah mb every single team thinking about the same setup without ever seeing it before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=029xkWSBn10

Legit the first video that comes up when you search up KJ ascent setups and covers every single setup. Btw its from a year ago and they are still being recycled

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kanyefan4238173

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You’re simplifying the sentinel role and I feel u don’t get it

And if someone actually played initiator this way they would lose every game, that is the number 1 mistake of all initiator players

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DBStudios

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Well I've watched every VCT game since 2022 and also have played over 600 games on sentinel so I should have a good idea on what a sentinel's role is. But ig if you think I'm wrong you should say why I'm wrong instead of just saying "I feel u don't get it".

What I wrote for initiator was me just being lazy and not trying to type allat, ofc you ain't gonna be dumping your util but it covers the main topics, use your util and comm it.

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kanyefan4238173

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It’s like you’re talking about the game strictly as if it was a one site execute every time

Sentinel on haven is much different than the way you describe it, and googling setups is not nearly enough to play it correctly

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kanyefan4238173

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wait bro 600 games is nothing

i have over 1200 and i spammed it from iron to immortal

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bobwoblob

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I think initiator because you have to actually know how to use your util well and it's not as easy as other roles util.

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igl

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Initiator is the hardest, coming from duelist and sentinel main. I mean hardest to be good at cause uou need to set the tempo and call actually

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Initiator, you need to setup ur duelist and team hella well
Duelist, you need to play off the agents's util u have on your team, and have to have good aim to get first bloods

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initiator/duelist

if were talking abt reaching a certain point of fragging and util, ini is def the hardest
if youre comparing other people on the role as well duelist is def up there as well

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Chat saying senti don't watch vct

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yea

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Aayan

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I think duelist as a pro player
since as a pro, everyone has cracked aim, you can't (outside of a handful of exceptional players) rely on your aim to carry you. You have to make small micro decisions which let you outplay your opponents.

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Vyde

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i must say initiator

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In general duelist
For your mental health sentinel (I fking love when I have Cypher camera for mid from market on Sunset and my teammate closes the market at the start of the round and when I don't place the camera next round there he leaves the doors open - that shit happend way too many times)