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different types of IGLing

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kalayav_n

fast IGLing like FNS, BOOSTIO, PRX, SAADHAAK

methodical IGLing like ANGE1, BOASTER, kiNgg, SAADHAAK

*disclaimer, FNS as well as BOOSTIO also do alot of methodical IGLing but it is not their main style

What is fast IGLING?
Fast IGLing is basically "on the go", theres no specific strat they are running;

example: "lets take garage", they take garage and kill one, and execute site or; they try to take garage and they get countered, quick reaction to C where they pivot in through art or mid. It's very hard to explain but i will post some gameplay examples below.

#1: https://youtu.be/lJPnEFDqL4E?t=542

  • beginning of pistol round, you can see OPTIC go for a default; they take early south B main and walk through under to contest for north B main. keep in mind YAY's trip on the north side of A main from dish, they kill 1 and get the pick onto SACY tower; LESS hits trip and victor spots 2; so FNS's quick counter reaction is run to A.

#2: https://youtu.be/n87I5q8xa-o?t=1868

  • onto a more important round, NRG are playing a default with alarmbot holding B push and KJ spotting the C contest/push. NRG decide to contact up behind a early NEON wall(fake pressuring signal,) this couldve played out differently but sadly ETHAN was too far to hear any footsteps so he assumes they are pressuring for real. Unfortunately the round goes to shit as EG play it perfectly and FNS's instant reaction is for KJ to push C and take space, KJ knows there is no pressure applied on the B push and can relay information to FNS, the original IDEA in FNS's head was to probably rotate through spawn killing heaven and the B rotate whilst ardiss picks off demon1, even though this plan kind of went to shit; FNS got 2 and s0m then rotates to the open C site. perfect example of fast reactionary calling.

what is methodical calling?
Methodical calling is basically routine calling, its basically like chess where you have opening set in stone rules for playing; most IGL's who call methodically always know what site they are going to hit, they're mid rounding is also 2nd to none; now this doesn't mean they can't change the site they are hitting it just means they have a set goal.

example: "Hey lets default, take garage, smoke for the A lurk and lets play for mid, we are going to try get a pick in middle and group up for B", this means the B lurker/default man will eventually know this is the site they are hitting so he will need to play methodical, not giving his life up.

#1: https://youtu.be/bL5Wj0mQqn0?list=PLTlFZO3kdyGCRN24RN-shqG__nPjkdast&t=902

  • Now as you can see here, NAVI are defaulting, with what i think is the intention of hitting B(the way SUYGETSU has left the trip, and how ANGE1 is defaulting for B!); NAVI start by taking all of mid very fast(no counter pressure denied for them), they then burst right into B. Pause making FNATIC question if they have lurked up A(fnatic have absolutely no map control so they are lost of information). Then they immediately rehit and absolutely wreck FNATIC, the post plant was questionable but yk ANYWAY.

conclusion: what is statistically the better IGL calling style? for me it is methodical, ANGE1 plays and expects to play to the perfection of the strat in his head, I think its why SAADHAAK had gotten the upper hand on OPTIC in the finals, I think a mixed version of both fast IGL calling and methodical IGL calling is the meta currently especially with ASTRA 5 stars and double initator meta.

#2
H3ENnZ
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Is there any examples of slow IGLing?

#5
kalayav_n
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that is methodical IGLing...

#24
shaggyboy1030
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bruh

#3
Smartest_Fan
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Nats clear all of them

Though I respect saadhak and fns

#4
GambleNats
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nobody is a methodical igl too :D just if anyone wanted to know

#8
kalayav_n
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yes but i am only listing the IGL's ive watched and studied, i will watch VCT china and APAC this year so hopefully new styles/mixed styles catch my eyes :D

#11
GambleNats
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cant wait ^^ good work so far

#14
kalayav_n
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i plan to do videos of these deconstructions soon as i get a new pc and learn some blender animation

#16
GambleNats
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I'll be sure to watch it when you do

#25
shaggyboy1030
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nicee that would be interesting count me in

#6
dort
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just say FNS is the best igl and move on lil bro

#7
catNmouse
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valyn would be slow and methodical

#10
kalayav_n
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yes but ive listed the top ones, no disrespect to valyn but he doesnt get ahead of anyone i listed

#15
catNmouse
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i think he does maybe not in achievements. he’s done way better with slow and methodical gameplay as opposed to boaster who struggled with it this year when it was their main thing in 2023

#17
kalayav_n
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fair but boaster with 2 masters gotta give to him even if he goes 1/13

#18
catNmouse
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mentioning prx but not gengs munchkin is crazy

  • cardboard winners
  • madrid finalist
    -stage 1 finalist
  • shanghai winner
  • stage 2 winner
  • grouped in the group of death
#19
kalayav_n
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prx fast IGLing is not replicable so would be a disgrace to leave them out

#20
catNmouse
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fair i guess but leaving munchkin out is still criminal

#21
kalayav_n
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mama im a criminal

#22
catNmouse
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munchkin is a mixture of fast and methodical

#23
kalayav_n
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all of IGLs really can call methodically its just some are better than others and some's styles arent like that yk, i agree though ive left out alot of good IGLs

#9
my-dad-ate-my-toes
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There's a third type

Schizo IGL'ing

This is the category ANGE1 falls under

#12
brams6661
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what do igls like ScreaM and CGN Benny fall under

#13
kalayav_n
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scream defaults like he plays methodically and then makes shit up as he goes so idek

#26
shaggyboy1030
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hey, what's your rank bro??

#29
kalayav_n
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peaked diamond, if ima be honest i have solo q syndrome and tilt syndrome so i should be higher

#32
shaggyboy1030
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oh nice can we play together?? i am plat tho ...... i like the more strategic and methodical play rather than fast and done

#33
kalayav_n
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sure brother im down on monday

#27
bem_te_vi
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Damn bro, a thread in this site that isn't complete dogshit? I'm in awe

#30
kalayav_n
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fr, cleanse this site

#28
toofan1
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W

#31
kalayav_n
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'preciate it

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