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Blue_Iced_Tea [#3]Yea idk riot favouritism. Honestly 2 slots for Brazil or 3 for NA would make so much more sense
10 slots for NA would be more ideal
Pravitel [#4]At least they only play with women
Cannot believe these transmerica fans are so arrogant
Blue_Iced_Tea [#3]Yea idk riot favouritism. Honestly 2 slots for Brazil or 3 for NA would make so much more sense
3 for NA its crazy they only have one team contender to win a title (Sr) and Just because of flor, at least in Brazil they have liquid and mibr that proved they could win a title and loud gc also play almost in their same level
Mortadelo [#8]The way people act on here you would think it was EMEA's last seed who went dead last and not NA's
2/3 years btw
NioMS [#12]How many dumb people are gonna keep saying this?
EMEA is more than just EU
Americas has 4 spots
10 team tournament is dumb as fuck and yes Brazil deserves more spots but EMEA having 3 is not the problem.
EMEA is more than just EU
How many non-EU orgs played on game changers EMEA exactly?
foythvlr [#14]EMEA is more than just EU
How many non-EU orgs played on game changers EMEA exactly?
Falcons
foythvlr [#14]EMEA is more than just EU
How many non-EU orgs played on game changers EMEA exactly?
1/3 at champs was from the Middle-East and our 4th best team was from the Middle-East as well
foythvlr [#14]EMEA is more than just EU
How many non-EU orgs played on game changers EMEA exactly?
NASR, FLC, BBL? in groups of stage 3 (1/4)
NASR, FLC in Playoffs of stage 3 (1/4)
G2thelion [#16]1/3 at champs was from the Middle-East and our 4th best team was from the Middle-East as well
so two out of 10?
and the one who classified to main stage got smoked 1-2?
interesting
foythvlr [#14]EMEA is more than just EU
How many non-EU orgs played on game changers EMEA exactly?
Falcons and NASR and they actually use womans unlike brazilians
Aayan [#17]NASR, FLC, BBL? in groups of stage 3 (1/4)
NASR, FLC in Playoffs of stage 3 (1/4)
even if you do consider BBL not EU its still a very small minority
80% of the EMEA GC scene could fit inside Brazil
3 spots. lol
Aayan [#10]even if EMEA had 2 slots G2 would still be here?
third place is still respectable
your point is completely separate from your reasoning
Team Liquid would have done much better than GX or Falcons so Emea 3 spots is stupid
akeib [#20]Falcons and NASR and they actually use womans unlike brazilians
they got smoked by "women only" teams anyway lol
foythvlr [#21]even if you do consider BBL not EU its still a very small minority
80% of the EMEA GC scene could fit inside Brazil
3 spots. lol
25% is not a 'very small minority'
80% of the EMEA GC scene could fit inside Brazil
What does this even mean? can you clarify
AMER has 4 slots, EMEA has 3, CN has 1 and APAC has 2
Liem [#22]Team Liquid would have done much better than GX or Falcons so Emea 3 spots is stupid
But you could make that argument for literally any team who didn't perform well
FQR came 9-10th but that doesn't mean NA should only have 1 slot
foythvlr [#21]even if you do consider BBL not EU its still a very small minority
80% of the EMEA GC scene could fit inside Brazil
3 spots. lol
Transmerica
Aayan [#24]25% is not a 'very small minority'
80% of the EMEA GC scene could fit inside Brazil
What does this even mean? can you clarify
AMER has 4 slots, EMEA has 3, CN has 1 and APAC has 2
It's not fair to consider AMERICAS as an entire region with 4 slots when 1. They don't fight for the same spots 2. They're geographically 10x times bigger than the EMEA scene 3. They historically have better results even as separate regions (even if G2 won, BR got top 3 with two different teams 3 times in a row)
Mortadelo [#33]dude you don't even know what you're trying to say xD
What? i'm asking about Game Changer EMEA not the main stage, because i know it's not only falcons lol
foythvlr [#27]It's not fair to consider AMERICAS as an entire region with 4 slots when 1. They don't fight for the same spots 2. They're geographically 10x times bigger than the EMEA scene 3. They historically have better results even as separate regions (even if G2 won, BR got top 3 with two different teams 3 times in a row)
So then why do you think its fair to consider EMEA as one region with 3 slots? You're applying double standards
I agree EU doesn't need 3 slots, but EMEA does. They should break EMEA in to EU (2) and MENA (1), the same way they have AMER broken up.
Results are a bad way to reliably create a bracket, or else the format would be changing every year, it's supposed to be consistent.
NA has had a team come 9-10th 2 years in a row now and they still have 2 slots, and even despite those results I and most people think they should keep 2 slots. (Are you willing to say NA only need 1 slot based off 'results'?)
Smartest_Fan [#35]Where is EDG GC??
OHH RIOT can allow 1 fluke??
idk about EDG GC but if u talk about EDG tho ............ that's a different question bro
Blue_Iced_Tea [#3]Yea idk riot favouritism. Honestly 2 slots for Brazil or 3 for NA would make so much more sense
3 NA 😭🤣✌️
might as well make it 1 NA and 2 BR
foythvlr [#34]What? i'm asking about Game Changer EMEA not the main stage, because i know it's not only falcons lol
Mb then
2 out of 9 orgs
8/50 non EU players
23/50 if you don't count Turkey as EU
Regardless that's not the point. The regions in Valorant are EMEA and Americas, subdivisions are pointless
shaggyboy1030 [#38]idk about EDG GC but if u talk about EDG tho ............ that's a different question bro
Don't board a running train
I know u like that but that's dangerous
Aayan [#37]So then why do you think its fair to consider EMEA as one region with 3 slots? You're applying double standards
I agree EU doesn't need 3 slots, but EMEA does. They should break EMEA in to EU (2) and MENA (1), the same way they have AMER broken up.Results are a bad way to reliably create a bracket, or else the format would be changing every year, it's supposed to be consistent.
NA has had a team come 9-10th 2 years in a row now and they still have 2 slots, and even despite those results I and most people think they should keep 2 slots. (Are you willing to say NA only need 1 slot based off 'results'?)
most people think they should keep 2 slots.
because 2 slots its the normal lol
this format is absolutely dogshit
i agree the ideal would be expanding but what im saying is if they're gonna keep the same format there's absolutely no reason to give EMEA 3 slots
Mortadelo [#40]Mb then
2 out of 9 orgs
8/50 non EU players
23/50 if you don't count Turkey as EURegardless that's not the point. The regions in Valorant are EMEA and Americas, subdivisions are pointless
And that's where i disagree. Treating EMEA and Americas as the same division is completely unfair and nonsensical when
Mortadelo [#40]Mb then
2 out of 9 orgs
8/50 non EU players
23/50 if you don't count Turkey as EURegardless that's not the point. The regions in Valorant are EMEA and Americas, subdivisions are pointless
And that's where i disagree. Treating EMEA and Americas as a the same is completely unfair and nonsensical
foythvlr [#45]And that's where i disagree. Treating EMEA and Americas as the same division is completely unfair and nonsensical when
Except that it isn’t, the player base in EMEA is even with the Americas one. Why wouldn’t it be fair
Americas already has more slots than they should considering pacific only gets 2 and China 1
Mortadelo [#47]Except that it isn’t, the player base in EMEA is even with the Americas one. Why wouldn’t it be fair
Americas already has more slots than they should considering pacific only gets 2 and China 1
Because they don't fight for the same slots. The qualifiers are already divided. Why would they count together at the end?
Player Count is a factor but it shouldn't be a major one because a very small amount goes to proplay and historically NA and BR has the best viewership (Outside of China) and results as a region.
EMEA GC is 75-80% europe, and geographically the majority of the scene is smaller US and BR. So there's no reason to be EMEA itself, and not just divide it into EU and MENA (there's not even african orgs qualified lol)
The ideal world would be, of course, expanding GC to 12 teams, and dividing EMEA into EU and MENA. But sadly they're not doing that, so there's no reason to give 3 slots to EMEA
foythvlr [#48]Because they don't fight for the same slots. The qualifiers are already divided. Why would they count together at the end?
Player Count is a factor but it shouldn't be a major one because a very small amount goes to proplay and historically NA and BR has the best viewership (Outside of China) and results as a region.
EMEA GC is 75-80% europe, and geographically the majority of the scene is smaller US and BR. So there's no reason to be EMEA itself, and not just divide it into EU and MENA (there's not even african orgs qualified lol)
The ideal world would be, of course, expanding GC to 12 teams, and dividing EMEA into EU and MENA. But sadly they're not doing that, so there's no reason to give 3 slots to EMEA
The reason it is separated is because there is no money to make it a LAN
But if it is fair in VCT to have equal spots why wouldn’t it be fair in GC to have equal spots? There is no difference other than it not being able to be played on LAN. Does that mean if Europe divides the league they get an extra spot too?
Americas already has 1 extra spot and yet you guys keep asking for another one
If it is not an Americas thing why there is not a single thread where Brazilians ask to have NA’s second spot. It’s FLY who placed dead last, not GX or FLCs
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