game changers will never go anywhere

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eternallakes

third year of gc
no gc player has made it to franchised vct
99% of the chat is arguing about trans players and guys playing even though its the third year of this happening (both sides btw)
no one in the chat is talking about the gameplay, other than like 2 people calling out terrible plays.
mods are braindead. handing out bans and day long time outs for jokes (not talking about rude jokes) or saying that a team or player is playing like shit. no one in vct chats has ever been banned for saying nrg or mibr are playing bad. people trash talk them all day long in chat, no bans or time outs.

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opLOL

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w

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Anzaldinho

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consider me the third because i had chat closed and was flaming on flyquest's in-game philosophy since yesterday
like what the fuck doing? theia your calls are atrocious

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Anzaldinho

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bro might make fns look like prime gla1ve if she played against him

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eternallakes

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FNS is a good igl

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Anzaldinho

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you are entitled to your opinion and i am entitled to mine but just know that i do not agree with that statement at all

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catNmouse

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who do you consider as a good igl?

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Anzaldinho

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currently?
munchkin boo valyn nobody
all time?
saadhak boaster

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jeMEGASUS

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like saadhak wasn't out-igled by fns in every h2h

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Anzaldinho

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one trophy in fns valorant career and it's masters
one trophy in saadhak valorant career and it's champions
#levels
#fuckyoutalmboutsumh2h

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jeMEGASUS

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so according to you
boostio = saadhak > fns = boaster = johnqt > valyn, boo

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catNmouse

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saadhak has a better h2h record against fns, even including optic where they won champs

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jeMEGASUS

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i never said fns won more h2hs
the strats and reads from fns felt better most of the time
imo loud's fragging made them win many rounds even tho optic had better reads

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Dybala21

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Bro acknowledged Boaster more than FNS lmao

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fatdaddy

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youre totally right, your sideline opinion is obviously better than practically all of the global Tier 1 scene who all tout FNS as one of the greatest IGL's ever in Valorant

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Anzaldinho

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greatest 😭😭😭
give it a few years, fns will fade into irrelevancy just like pronax on fnatic

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fatdaddy

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hate to break it to you, he'll always be ONE of the greatest. not THE greatest. Years after he retires, they'll still be talking about him. If you can't see that... you're braindead

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Anzaldinho

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alright man

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Azzelastia

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modding GC chat has to be the most cursed, thankless job of all time. @[mod_name] you are doing the lord's work

🤓🤓

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Saik8

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That's why if I ever watch a game I just keep my chat off cuz even if I don't chat it's so annoying to see simple jokes getting nuked

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Upcominturf

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Hence why its infinitely better to watch co-streams for gamechangers. Sliggy for instance will talk about the game and chat is nice too

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TraditionalFlyer

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No GC player didn't even make it into T2. The level is so low

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Hobbit

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Bob made it, and was the best player in her team

9z GC made it (though they got demolished)

Liquid BR and LOUD GC will compete in VCL next year

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61Hiko

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Liquid BR couldn't get passed MIBR, what they gonna do

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Hobbit

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I'm just stating the facts, I don't think that they will be good in VCL

But saying that no GC pro has ever made it to t2 is a lie

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TraditionalFlyer

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Bob was a T2 player that joined GC, not the other way around

9z GC played Split 3 because the mixed 9z team was released

TL BR and LOUD GC (replacing MIBR) will play Split 3 this year, they qualified though GC, so of course doesn't count

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kanyefan4238173

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but bob then went from gc to tier 2

your comment was disingenuous at the least

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Tetrodotoxin

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Conir? Bob?

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BruteAXE

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i mean if players are not at the level than they wont get picked but that doesnt mean its useless
its same as t2
and about chat well
main valo channel is stupid anyway and when you bring topic like this
than those kids chat are gonna cry
i rather recommend watching watch partys or turning off chat
also internet is filled with dummys so just ignore

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x_knowitall39_x

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if nobody gets picked up then its useless. thats literally the end goal

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MurphyOW

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First of all the end goal isn't for the to get picked up in T2 or T1, that's definitely one of them, but I don't think GC has such a simple end goal.

Among a LOT of other things, GC was made because of an issues with people from marginalised genders not being given the same chances others were given, IRL and In game, which led to them not only missing out on actually playing in the normal circuit, but also from improving in general even in the ranked ladder, which means they not have some catching up to do In general compared to the unironically 100% male VCT.

This is a complicated issue as we both know so its better to oversimplify slightly.

But the main point is just that getting picked up is cool and all, but if lets say one woman gets picked up, she can win and now it means she gets carried, if she loses, now it means she's a burden and was only picked up because she's a woman. This is the internet people have no shame they're here for a reason this is the reception that they'll get. This is just one of the many issues

In general what I think is the that part of the end goal which you can disagree with on just fine, is that marginalised genders will first of all have a platform to grow and show their skills, and second, there gets to be teams like SR that can improve and improve and if one day they get to tier one they will do it legit and it will basically be undeniable, and you can't deny that GC teams have been improving.
It is also helpful that it lets people get used to this and familiarise themselves of having literally any diversity whatsoever in valorant and in esports, its learning and being around queer people that makes most people accept them and actually know/understand even a singular thing about them, kinda like how the most racist people live in rural areas because that means they barely see any people of colour in their lives.

It's a really interesting topic to learn about i'd encourage everyone to go down their own little rabbit hole about this.
PS: I am not a certified source I probably got some things wrong and didn't include sumn I should've it happens. Also sorry for yapping so much it just happens, its a chronic illness.

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Jezy

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As long as rito refuses to let the product grow and allow it proper funding fair

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Komekko

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Gc gets ton of funding, some of them dont want to actually try to get into t2 cause winning in GC is just so lucrative.

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H3ENnZ

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I mean im not complaining that there are some off season events to watch

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colZ

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Trolling in chat and watching internet people getting mad is more 100% more entertaining than watching that shitshow

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Cheasle2

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3 years is not a long time lmao

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eternallakes

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in three years at least one player should make it to t1.
imagine if in the last two years of vcl no one got picked up from there and moved to vct. That's terrible.

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cohnr

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tbf GC isnt meant for bringing up talent, it fills its role while bringing in sponsors and teams that arent in the main circuit, brings in more players to start watching VCT that wouldnt watch the main league, makes people want to watch tier 2 and tier 1 for better gameplay after theyve had a taste of pro valorant etc

not everything is for breeding talent, riot is a company and outside appearance is very important and GC does wonders for that

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concept

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exactly what I was going to say
GC is simply meant to give opportunities to players who would not be able to play on a stage otherwise. There's some GC fan and people who just enjoy watching Valorant, people just have to understand that.

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Bhrubby

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First time watching gc and had to ask a question on chat about the tournament but got banned. So disappointing.