1 - Aspas (World champion, + 2 consecutive Americas titles being the MVP of both)
2 - Derke (deserves more credit)
3 - TenZ
4 - Leo
5 - ZmjjKK
6 - Demon1
7 - f0rsakeN
8 - Chronicle
9 - Zekken
10 - Yay
AlexSMTx [#2]For some reason I don't see Tacolilla on the list. VLR still uncultured...
https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf
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akami [#3]https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf
:(
He's ex-Leviatan, ofc our inside man would help us win the game. This is much obvious
AlexSMTx [#4]He's ex-Leviatan, ofc our inside man would help us win the game. This is much obvious
he's 11th
MrBulbe [#7]Zekken being in with no mada is crazy work
mada has played like 3 games bro. and in offseason. and zekken did better in the tourney he played. 10/10 bait
washedradiant [#9]mada has played like 3 games bro. and in offseason. and zekken did better in the tourney he played. 10/10 bait
yeah and he already clears this whole list except aspas
I used the players they mentioned, I would have put other players in here (Alfa, Sacy, Saadhak, Mako, etc...) but just reordered them.
1: Chronicle (3 time trophy winner, multiple regional titles, consistent since the start)
2-:Aspas (Champion, multi time Americas MVP, would be 1 if he had more international wins)
3: Derke (2 trophies and very consistent at the top level)
4: TenZ (Derke but less consistent and dissapered to 2 years, still deserves top 5 though)
5: Yay ( Incredible 2022 looking to return)
6: Leo (2 trophies, considered best initiator if not all around player, just needs to have another good year)
7: Zmjjkk (World champion, incredible mechanics, face of China)
8: Zekken (Very consistent at a young age, 2 trophies, has not proved enough to go any higher)
9: Demon1 (World champion, proved his skill but had a terrible 2024)
10: f0rsaken (Idk why he is on the list ngl)
Whysoseriousss [#11]Wtf is this logic . Keep our goat Chronicle on top with 3 trophies
i know i had him at 3rd at first but then i thought of impact but he has been really consistent could be top 5 too
localkoolkid [#12]I used the players they mentioned, I would have put other players in here (Alfa, Sacy, Saadhak, Mako, etc...) but just reordered them.
1: Chronicle (3 time trophy winner, multiple regional titles, consistent since the start)
2-:Aspas (Champion, multi time Americas MVP, would be 1 if he had more international wins)
3: Derke (2 trophies and very consistent at the top level)
4: TenZ (Derke but less consistent and dissapered to 2 years, still deserves top 5 though)
5: Yay ( Incredible 2022 looking to return)
6: Leo (2 trophies, considered best initiator if not all around player, just needs to have another good year)
7: Zmjjkk (World champion, incredible mechanics, face of China)
8: Zekken (Very consistent at a young age, 2 trophies, has not proved enough to go any higher)
9: Demon1 (World champion, proved his skill but had a terrible 2024)
10: f0rsaken (Idk why he is on the list ngl)
i'm not thinking only of trophies but impact as well. It makes no sense chonicle first ahead of Derke and Aspas, could say top 3 or top 5 tho
kanyefan4238173 [#13]Chronicle wins 3 intl trophies with an mvp to be 8th. Aspas wins 1 intl trophy with 0 mvps to be first
Alright
0 mvps?
akami [#15]i'm not thinking only of trophies but impact as well. It makes no sense chonicle first ahead of Derke and Aspas, could say top 3 or top 5 tho
Chronicle was on par with Nats at Berlin, had an incredible performance at 2021 champs, played a big part in FNATIC in 2023, and played pretty good In 2024, just very consistent at the highest level and has the most sucess ever
kanyefan4238173 [#13]Chronicle wins 3 intl trophies with an mvp to be 8th. Aspas wins 1 intl trophy with 0 mvps to be first
Alright
Chronicle does not have a masters MVP and he does not have a champions
kanyefan4238173 [#17]Internationally yeah
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo
Alfajer was the MVP
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo
Leo
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/466/valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin
Yay or Nats
akami [#19]Chronicle does not have a masters MVP and he does not have a champions
so why are Leo and Derke over Demon1 or KK then by your logic?
localkoolkid [#12]I used the players they mentioned, I would have put other players in here (Alfa, Sacy, Saadhak, Mako, etc...) but just reordered them.
1: Chronicle (3 time trophy winner, multiple regional titles, consistent since the start)
2-:Aspas (Champion, multi time Americas MVP, would be 1 if he had more international wins)
3: Derke (2 trophies and very consistent at the top level)
4: TenZ (Derke but less consistent and dissapered to 2 years, still deserves top 5 though)
5: Yay ( Incredible 2022 looking to return)
6: Leo (2 trophies, considered best initiator if not all around player, just needs to have another good year)
7: Zmjjkk (World champion, incredible mechanics, face of China)
8: Zekken (Very consistent at a young age, 2 trophies, has not proved enough to go any higher)
9: Demon1 (World champion, proved his skill but had a terrible 2024)
10: f0rsaken (Idk why he is on the list ngl)
yeah f0rsaken could be out because he hasn't won anything even though playing consistently
localkoolkid [#12]I used the players they mentioned, I would have put other players in here (Alfa, Sacy, Saadhak, Mako, etc...) but just reordered them.
1: Chronicle (3 time trophy winner, multiple regional titles, consistent since the start)
2-:Aspas (Champion, multi time Americas MVP, would be 1 if he had more international wins)
3: Derke (2 trophies and very consistent at the top level)
4: TenZ (Derke but less consistent and dissapered to 2 years, still deserves top 5 though)
5: Yay ( Incredible 2022 looking to return)
6: Leo (2 trophies, considered best initiator if not all around player, just needs to have another good year)
7: Zmjjkk (World champion, incredible mechanics, face of China)
8: Zekken (Very consistent at a young age, 2 trophies, has not proved enough to go any higher)
9: Demon1 (World champion, proved his skill but had a terrible 2024)
10: f0rsaken (Idk why he is on the list ngl)
Yay is too high, he had a huge fall off, it makes no sense to put him ahead of demon1, demon1 played a different role as well
akami [#23]Yay is too high, he had a huge fall off, it makes no sense to put him ahead of demon1, demon1 played a different role as well
because at least yay got fucked over and had an excuse, Demon1 was just ass, also Yay had previous success by almost winning Berlin
localkoolkid [#21]so why are Leo and Derke over Demon1 or KK then by your logic?
I am comparing Chronicle to Aspas
localkoolkid [#21]so why are Leo and Derke over Demon1 or KK then by your logic?
Leo is better than Chronicle in performance, Chronicle just has more titles but he wasn't the main guy in Gambit and Fnatic so it makes no sense him 1st
Whysoseriousss [#11]Wtf is this logic . Keep our goat Chronicle on top with 3 trophies
Bro is counting mickey mouse tournaments
localkoolkid [#12]I used the players they mentioned, I would have put other players in here (Alfa, Sacy, Saadhak, Mako, etc...) but just reordered them.
1: Chronicle (3 time trophy winner, multiple regional titles, consistent since the start)
2-:Aspas (Champion, multi time Americas MVP, would be 1 if he had more international wins)
3: Derke (2 trophies and very consistent at the top level)
4: TenZ (Derke but less consistent and dissapered to 2 years, still deserves top 5 though)
5: Yay ( Incredible 2022 looking to return)
6: Leo (2 trophies, considered best initiator if not all around player, just needs to have another good year)
7: Zmjjkk (World champion, incredible mechanics, face of China)
8: Zekken (Very consistent at a young age, 2 trophies, has not proved enough to go any higher)
9: Demon1 (World champion, proved his skill but had a terrible 2024)
10: f0rsaken (Idk why he is on the list ngl)
i conseidered putting Sacy and Alfajer as well but 4 fnatic player does not make sense. Mako is the best korean player ngl
kanyefan4238173 [#13]Chronicle wins 3 intl trophies with an mvp to be 8th. Aspas wins 1 intl trophy with 0 mvps to be first
Alright
Aspas > Chronicle
ntucci [#27]the fact that less isnt on the list is crazy to me
Alfajer was better than him and isn't too
akami [#20]https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo
Alfajer was the MVPhttps://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo
Leohttps://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/466/valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin
Yay or Nats
It’s opinionated really. Chronicle and nats had the same rating, but chronicle was the flex player and performed better in the finals, so he is my mvp
kanyefan4238173 [#34]It’s opinionated really. Chronicle and nats had the same rating, but chronicle was the flex player and performed better in the finals, so he is my mvp
no sacy on this list either
finals mvp, champs and masters. he was a beast and is the reason they won ascent, he takes mvp over aspas in my book
his performances recently haven’t been great but if accomplishments are a factor then surely sacy has to be on his list
akami [#26]Leo is better than Chronicle in performance, Chronicle just has more titles but he wasn't the main guy in Gambit and Fnatic so it makes no sense him 1st
MVP of berlin final, better than nats at champs, same rating as nats at Berlin
What is this chronicle disrespect?
Gambit didn’t have a ‘main man’ but if they did I’d say it was chronicle
Azzelastia [#28]Bro is counting mickey mouse tournaments
Your sperm race was a Mickey mouse tournament.
kanyefan4238173 [#38]MVP of berlin final, better than nats at champs, same rating as nats at Berlin
What is this chronicle disrespect?
Gambit didn’t have a ‘main man’ but if they did I’d say it was chronicle
i’m pretty sure they meant in popularity lmao
localkoolkid [#24]because at least yay got fucked over and had an excuse, Demon1 was just ass, also Yay had previous success by almost winning Berlin
“almost winning” is not a success, it’s a failure
localkoolkid [#24]because at least yay got fucked over and had an excuse, Demon1 was just ass, also Yay had previous success by almost winning Berlin
demon1 almost won tokyo, also got fucked over and had a good excuse (his fiance had severe health issues)
Clucker [#45]Bro i cant, kk has 1 good tournament and he is now the 5th best player of all time
“1 good tournament” he was better in tokyo and champs 2023 lmao
still had a respectable 1.07 rating in madrid. make that 3 good tournaments + maybe four
catNmouse [#48]“1 good tournament” he was better in tokyo and champs 2023 lmao
still had a respectable 1.07 rating in madrid. make that 3 good tournaments + maybe four
A duelist with a positive rating, must be the best player in the world ahh logic.
Clucker [#49]A duelist with a positive rating, must be the best player in the world ahh logic.
yeah he had more than 1 good tournament, which warrants his placement
localkoolkid [#12]I used the players they mentioned, I would have put other players in here (Alfa, Sacy, Saadhak, Mako, etc...) but just reordered them.
1: Chronicle (3 time trophy winner, multiple regional titles, consistent since the start)
2-:Aspas (Champion, multi time Americas MVP, would be 1 if he had more international wins)
3: Derke (2 trophies and very consistent at the top level)
4: TenZ (Derke but less consistent and dissapered to 2 years, still deserves top 5 though)
5: Yay ( Incredible 2022 looking to return)
6: Leo (2 trophies, considered best initiator if not all around player, just needs to have another good year)
7: Zmjjkk (World champion, incredible mechanics, face of China)
8: Zekken (Very consistent at a young age, 2 trophies, has not proved enough to go any higher)
9: Demon1 (World champion, proved his skill but had a terrible 2024)
10: f0rsaken (Idk why he is on the list ngl)
Where's Zekken's 2nd trophy???
akami [#32]Alfajer was better than him and isn't too
Alfajer is not better than Less, never was.
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
akami [#3]https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf
:(
damn taco dropping magnum numbers
catNmouse [#36]no sacy on this list either
finals mvp, champs and masters. he was a beast and is the reason they won ascent, he takes mvp over aspas in my book
his performances recently haven’t been great but if accomplishments are a factor then surely sacy has to be on his list
sacy himself said aspas is the best player
catNmouse [#36]no sacy on this list either
finals mvp, champs and masters. he was a beast and is the reason they won ascent, he takes mvp over aspas in my book
his performances recently haven’t been great but if accomplishments are a factor then surely sacy has to be on his list
but i agree he should have been at least in the list
jawn [#60]derke has never been the best player in the world so he's way too high
guy has been consistent since the start, was the main guy on fnatic for a very long time, has titles too.
alienista1 [#57]Alfajer is not better than Less, never was.
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
why are you always like this Alfajer was always better than Less. you put h2h stats here because Alfa was always better in general stats
MerkFreeks [#67]Nats, Alfajer, Sacy, Mako > Zekken respectfully
nah nats is not > zekken, in entire 2024 zekken proved to be one of the best in the world and nats havent got to show his skills so nah, sacy nah he was firing on 2022 loud but firepower dropped a lot in 2023 and 2024, mako hasnt won anything so nah and yea alfajer >
akami [#65]guy has been consistent since the start, was the main guy on fnatic for a very long time, has titles too.
he has never led his teams to a trophy unlike most of the players in this list
windwine [#70]nah nats is not > zekken, in entire 2024 zekken proved to be one of the best in the world and nats havent got to show his skills so nah, sacy nah he was firing on 2022 loud but firepower dropped a lot in 2023 and 2024, mako hasnt won anything so nah and yea alfajer >
nAts is 10 light years ahead of z0kken in terms of skill and achievements