VCT Americas ranking

#1

Hobbit

G2
KRÜ
SEN
100T
MIBR
NRG
C9
LEV
EG
FUR
LOUD
2G

I'm down to negotiate changing KRÜ for SEN

#2

catNmouse

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change kru because atom will either cook up the greatest thing of all time or troll hard

#4

Hobbit

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I've never been KRÜ's biggest fan

But I think that this team just has every asset to be top 4 and qualify to champs comfortably

Worst case scenario, they make top 8 imo

#7

catNmouse

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true but then again, they also made very questionable decisions such as letting their perma ban through as 3rd map vs drx, no duelist abyss comp with heat first time sova, etc.

#9

Hobbit

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KRÜ's problem last year was the lack of an actual IGL and role issues

Keznit said that every player this year is playing on their comfort role

And with Abyss, to be fair, the map was fairly new, and you'll never define the meta if you don't try to cook new comps. In their case, they burnt the kitchen

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catNmouse

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excited to see them and i hope atom proves the doubters (me) wrong

#13

uwukitten

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they went from no igl to a shit igl, what an improvement (and lost one of their best fraggers)

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Hobbit

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Adverso finished top 3 in VCL with 4 tier 3 players, and you're telling me he's a "shit IGL"?

Be fr

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CxsmicEntity

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3 tier 3

#37

koromast

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dante is tier 1 bro be fr

#3

uwukitten

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bait

#5

Hobbit

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?

#8

benmaimoon

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bait

#6

Realm3098

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NRG
mibr
Lev
Rest of em

#11

Hobbit

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NRG mickey mouse merchants

#10

dortfan

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NRG
G2/EG
G2/EG

Rest don't deserve to be representing Americas especially the NA teams.

#46

Azzelastia

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Exactly. These Brazil and South NA fans really think their teams have a chance 😹😹

#14

Dallyn

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nrg at 6 when they beat sen twice with a week of practice lmao, mibr and kru are up there for what?

#16

Hobbit

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Idc about off-season

I can't give less than a top 5 to a team with Aspas

And there's no reason to not put KRÜ in top 4??

#17

akcolade

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G2 - best team last year and got an upgrade - all players contribute to round wins
NRG - best team of the offseason - all players contribute to round wins
SEN - best team in the region on paper but rely on zekken too much
MIBR - Aspas made lev relevant and will probably take MIBR to champs on last seed at the end of the year
LEV - good roster on paper but inconsistent pieces, so literally the same as 100t
100T - good roster on paper but inconsistent pieces, so the same as lev
KRÜ - have all the pieces but no synergy
2G - look promising but wont be as good as top tier teams
EG - honestly who knows, yay looks good and potter can cook
C9 - will probably get an upset here or there but its literally just an oxy 1v5
LOUD - Lost Saadhak and less, its hard to see how they will be as good
FUR - did not look good last year and did not make a major change

#18

Hobbit

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What makes you think that KRÜ has no synergy?

All of them are friends and have played against and with each other in the past

#19

catNmouse

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KRÜ - have all the pieces but no synergy

what makes you think that? most of them if not all have played with each other at some point, they have an actual IGL now so their gameplay hopefully won’t look scrappy

#24

akcolade

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I mean that they don't play off each other as much as other teams. Their success is wholly reliant on individual popoffs in stark contrast to g2.

#28

catNmouse

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they made a roster change though, they had to rely on individuals because of many issues they faced this year but it will be different this time. all players are comfortable on their roles and they have an actual IGL

#20

dort

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MIBR - Aspas made lev relevant

no, that would be c0m & tex

#22

Marcocass

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Out of all America's teams you said KRU has no synergy, where all the players have been friends with each other for a long time

#25

akcolade

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I mean that they don't play off each other as much as other teams. Their success is wholly reliant on individual popoffs in stark contrast to g2.

#29

Marcocass

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I guess it depends on the roster and gameplan, because if you look at Kru's stage 1 with Klaus this year they had a lot of team play, so we'll see

#32

akcolade

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id love to proven wrong since kru is far more fun to watch than most teams

#21

Kirya

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Sen too high
Nrg clears them

#26

cake-

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KRU > SEN is.... brave...

Is this bait post?

#27

catNmouse

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both rosters are good on paper

#30

bfrparker

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Manito, KRU is very bad, and you are underestimating Brazilian teams just because you are Argentine, KRU is worse than FURIA and MIBR, maybe even 2G, leave clubism aside

#34

Marcocass

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Bases on your opinion brazil should win everything this year, good luck

#38

bfrparker

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Where did I write that Brazil will win everything this year? I just said that you are greatly underestimating the Brazilian teams, and greatly overestimating the KRU

#41

Marcocass

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Because even tho KRU has a winning record against MIBR and FURIA with KRU having worse rosters those years you are too confident that those 2 are for sure better than KRU, so if you are too confident of that its better to say that brazil is winning it all this year just to glaze them a little more

#42

bfrparker

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Great track record of KRU: Get 0/9 in VCT Americas
Furia and MIBR's Line are much stronger than KRU's currently, accept the facts

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Marcocass

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Yeah that record you mentioned has no value as they ended up being 4th best of Americas that year lol, I ain't saying that FURIA and MIBR are not able to win against KRU the next year but saying something like "FURIA and MIBR are much better than KRU", when they didn't even get to touch playoffs this year and KRU won against them the 2 times they faced each other + you havent even seen some of your players play in tier 1, it's kinda crazy. Remembers me the Havoc glaze and then the poor guy ended up 2 20 in a map and not being able to have a good map till stage 2

#36

catNmouse

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Just as they are underestimating brazil, you are no better by underestimating KRU

For the record I think furia and 2g are heavily underrated while MIBR is fine

#39

bfrparker

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I'm not underestimating KRU, I'm saying they are bad because I know the players, Melser always left a lot to be desired, while Adverso was never a very good IGL, he played here in Brazil and was considered a joke, I think that keznit and shyy are two good players, and so is Mazino, but I have my doubts about him after everything that happened in relation to him

#43

Hobbit

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I just think that LOUD will get an upset here and there, but I can't put them any higher considering that they lost the best IGL in the brazilian scene and the best brazilian sentinel. Only to be replaced with a tier 2-tier 3 IGL that barely goes positive

And FURIA always play bad when I expect good from them. I expected them to have a much better roster this year, might win a couple maps against teams like NRG, 100T, or LEV. But I seriously don't see them getting far, considering that they have a worse roster than last year

2G could be in any placement from 11 to 7, but it's hard to predict considering that they're playing with 5 rookies and no spike

And I don't have any bias here, I always root for SA teams. I think that KRÜ in 2nd place is a bold prediction, but I think that it could 100% happen

And my favorite team in Americas is Cloud9, and I put them in 7th, so

#44

bfrparker

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KRU won't come in second place manito hahahahaha, there are many better teams, and it doesn't matter if you expect something good from Furia or not, Furia has a good line and a good coach now, their line is better than KRU's and even than C9 that you like so much, C9 is actually one of the worst teams in the Americas, a great candidate to come in last place

#45

Hobbit

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FURIA's lineup is not better than KRÜ's xd

#47

bfrparker

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Who do you think is better? An IGL 3x Brazilian Valorant champion, or an IGL who spent 2 years without winning anything, and when he played here in Brazil it became a joke?
Who do you think is better, a coach whose only career title is an lcq, or a coach who is a 2x Brazilian Valorant champion?
Or besides titles, do you really think that Melser is better than Khalil?
In KRU, only Keznit is better than Havoc (Havoc will be the duelist), Shyy and Heat there are discussions (I think Heat is better)

#48

Hobbit

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Keznit>>>Havoc
adverso>raafa
shyy<heat
Melser=khalil
Mazino>>>Mwzera
Atom=Peu since both have made questionable decisions with good rosters

#49

bfrparker

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Keznit >>> Havoc
adverso << raafa
shyy < heat
melser << khalil
mazino > mwzera
Atom < Peu (Only one of these is a champion of something relevant)

#31

Azzelastia

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These south NA people are so delusional

#33

8kunai

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this a joke

#35

avenger50000

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EG will finish top 5.

#40

Divine_Thunder

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mibr is shit. aspas aint carrying the entire team

#50

brams6661

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100T, C9 too high, LEV too low