Gentle Mates

So with them parting ways with their french roster and basically going international, doesn't that set a very grim situation for tier 2 players?
Hypothetical Situation:
-play in a mix of players
-play tier 2
-get into ascension tournament
-be bought by a relatively big org like mouz, fokus, sk, ence
-get the ascension slot
-have a number of players kicked cuz you ain't deemed good enough
-org gets slot and franchising money, you are kicked in the shitter
-go back to tier 2
How is that shit even possible

I hope t2 orgs pay well/decent otherwise t2 is completely pointless

They had a whole year to show something and they won 3 games

welikefortniteandvalorant [#2]

I hope t2 orgs pay well/decent otherwise t2 is completely pointless

they cannot pay decent cuz then their RoI goes from bad to worse

gold2peak [#3]

They had a whole year to show something and they won 3 games

but they earned the slot, not the org. The players waste the entire year grinding their ass, get thru ascension and then the org just goes ''yeah, bye bye''

gold2peak [#3]

They had a whole year to show something and they won 3 games

That whole year had 12 games? thats nothing

Nef0r0 [#5]

but they earned the slot, not the org. The players waste the entire year grinding their ass, get thru ascension and then the org just goes ''yeah, bye bye''

The org earned the slot thanks to them, you can argue they should be more thankful than this, yes, but at the end of the day they played for a team

SuperRoss [#7]

The org earned the slot thanks to them, you can argue they should be more thankful than this, yes, but at the end of the day they played for a team

but that's just messed up towards the players

Nef0r0 [#8]

but that's just messed up towards the players

Yes, but

Can you really blame the org for trying to raise the team's level at a time like this?

All it takes for gm8 to go down is finishing lower than apeks, because they 100% ain't getting to a major, if anything is messed up this is it.

Clearly what they did last year wasn't working, sinply put, something had to change

SuperRoss [#9]

Yes, but

Can you really blame the org for trying to raise the team's level at a time like this?

All it takes for gm8 to go down is finishing lower than apeks, because they 100% ain't getting to a major, if anything is messed up this is it.

Clearly what they did last year wasn't working, sinply put, something had to change

which ones again goes back to show how shit the tier 2 system is. Orgs are in the risk of getting fucked, so the players are getting fucked

Nef0r0 [#10]

which ones again goes back to show how shit the tier 2 system is. Orgs are in the risk of getting fucked, so the players are getting fucked

Pretty much

welikefortniteandvalorant [#6]

That whole year had 12 games? thats nothing

VCT season is definitely an issue in of itself. It would have been nice to have 10 games for Stage 1 and 2, but then it would draw questions of if it's too much on the players schedule-wise and how will they adjust to new patches being rolled in if they have games so close together. Unlike CS, Valorant has a lot more variables which can change the way teams play multiple maps as well as what maps to focus their effort on. Still, you have to understand that 3/12 games won is still pretty poor returns even in such a small sample of games. Watching M8s play, they threw a lot of maps and rounds quite easily. And now with a new VCT season, you have to try something new. This definitely goes against what is clearly working for the best orgs - i.e.: have the best of your core stick together and scout talent to upgrade on roles. If Natank and Kadavra stayed, it would be fine. RobbieBk, Minny and Click would be fine additions. RobbieBk is the strong Sova player that M8s were missing all season. Plus, he can IGL and frag so he will be a surefire upgrade over Beyaz. Logan and Wailers were both good on Sentinel at times and either could have been fine to stay. But Minny definitely looks hungry to win. Shame GoNext choked their ascension run hard.