Is Cojo a liar?

https://x.com/CoJoPM/status/1842484947459707354?t=z5fUh604YDWHdC1KA-j6Og&s=19

False.

To clarify: we don’t stop transfers of players due to competitive reasons, nor do we have diff asks depending on the buyer - we just expect the buy-out to be met which most interested teams have been able to do. Can give more insight on all this when the offseason is done

Do you believe his story? To me it really reminds me of early stages of G2 Perkz transfer with carlos. A lot of naive fans buying the story that helps the org save face

no he isn't

vlr_homeofesports [#2]

no he isn't

Hello, Cojo! Nice alt

so all the leaks are false? seems more plausible to me that he's lying, vitality isn't some poor org

uwukitten [#4]

so all the leaks are false? seems more plausible to me that he's lying, vitality isn't some poor org

exactly lol

IT IS LITERALLY BULLSHIT BY ALL MEANS, CLASSIC EU MOVE TO LIE SO SHAMELESSLY

Lmao he blocked me

CoJoke

We can speculate either way, stll wont be 100% facts before more information comes to light.

But what can be said is that if its true its not a good look.

If this was the case surely Derke would be on vitality already? If derke wasn't forcing his way to vitality he surely would be on a team already

gold2peak [#10]

If this was the case surely Derke would be on vitality already? If derke wasn't forcing his way to vitality he surely would be on a team already

The idea that other emea teams can afford a buyout vitality can not is laughable

He also said kaajak to FNC is a lie and then fnc signed kaajak 2 days later

Made it to Cojo xD
I don’t know or think he’s lying necessarily. But the information from many leakers is the same and that usually means something. He probably has his own version of it

I was on reddit looking at the posts there and the people in the comments are defending fnatic like crazy.
That manager lied about the kajaak situation cus he didnt want the truth to be leaked that way and then he tried to deny it to keep it a mystery
Now we see derke situation even more fucked up imo cus derke isnt allowed to go to the team he wants the most cus the org is jailing him

Its insane how fnatic fans try to act like this is normal, is fnatic allowed to do it yes, but is it morally correct nah
Shady af for a org to treat a player who has done so much for them this way..

gold2peak [#10]

If this was the case surely Derke would be on vitality already? If derke wasn't forcing his way to vitality he surely would be on a team already

i dont think you realize how big VIT is... they're a massive org in EMEA even if you just look at CS and CS makes wayyyy more money for orgs than valo ever will js because of stickers

gold2peak [#10]

If this was the case surely Derke would be on vitality already? If derke wasn't forcing his way to vitality he surely would be on a team already

Vitality got a massive massive cash cow in their CS roster, there even is a possibility they farmed 10 million last year due to stickers

alpine007 [#15]

i dont think you realize how big VIT is... they're a massive org in EMEA even if you just look at CS and CS makes wayyyy more money for orgs than valo ever will js because of stickers

Its crazy cojo said that vitality didnt meet derkes buyout lmao
Massive org like vitality getting outbid by these new val orgs like M8? Sure buddy we believe u cojo XD

SunnyFromVLR [#17]

Its crazy cojo said that vitality didnt meet derkes buyout lmao
Massive org like vitality getting outbid by these new val orgs like M8? Sure buddy we believe u cojo XD

i mean it could be true in the case where VIT don't wanna spend on valo since it doesn't make them nearly s much money as CS does but again we don't know shit and we gotta wait

150k buyout ? cause if xeus is 80k derke should be 150 right ?

alpine007 [#18]

i mean it could be true in the case where VIT don't wanna spend on valo since it doesn't make them nearly s much money as CS does but again we don't know shit and we gotta wait

If u look at what is rumored already
-sayf
-trexx
-Less
-Derke
-Idk who last is ceNder, jampii?
A org like vitality legit could build a insane super team, and most importantly champs is going to be in Paris next year
So for a french org in general, this is the year to spend the most. Dont really think money is an issue here at all, but we will see

he talk too much

BTM_Wipr [#19]

150k buyout ? cause if xeus is 80k derke should be 150 right ?

Xeus is over 100

Liem [#12]

He also said kaajak to FNC is a lie and then fnc signed kaajak 2 days later

he said they werent even trialing him when the leak came out
he wants to say that they did trials with him for one daay and said yes he is the guy

Mortadelo [#13]

Made it to Cojo xD
I don’t know or think he’s lying necessarily. But the information from many leakers is the same and that usually means something. He probably has his own version of it

probably just word play

Mortadelo [#22]

Xeus is over 100

oh yeah ? I saw someone mentioning 80k in vlrgg. anyway, Fnatic have the right to milk Vitality for more money this is the game.
also this should serve as a lesson to other player when signing contracts

BTM_Wipr [#25]

oh yeah ? I saw someone mentioning 80k in vlrgg. anyway, Fnatic have the right to milk Vitality for more money this is the game.
also this should serve as a lesson to other player when signing contracts

Obviously they paid for his contract this kids is stupid they think its a charity "keep in him in jail" 🤣

BTM_Wipr [#25]

oh yeah ? I saw someone mentioning 80k in vlrgg. anyway, Fnatic have the right to milk Vitality for more money this is the game.
also this should serve as a lesson to other player when signing contracts

Yeah that was the info I translated. They asked if it was over 80k or under and they said over. But that doesn’t mean it’s 80k. With the info we have know we know it’s over 100k

vlr_homeofesports [#2]

no he isn't

no one in their right mind would name themselves vlr homeofesports, nt cojo im not buying that

Congo1 [#11]

The idea that other emea teams can afford a buyout vitality can not is laughable

and based on this, Vitality might try to pay cheaper because they can ( like they have) turn the public against Fnatic. And which org doesnt want to spend less money?

GRAYOUT [#6]

IT IS LITERALLY BULLSHIT BY ALL MEANS, CLASSIC EU MOVE TO LIE SO SHAMELESSLY

he is american

Rocky54 [#26]

Obviously they paid for his contract this kids is stupid they think its a charity "keep in him in jail" 🤣

it's not about asking for money to sell him you idiot, it's about refusing to sell him to a good team even when they offer more money

uwukitten [#31]

it's not about asking for money to sell him you idiot, it's about refusing to sell him to a good team even when they offer more money

Why would you stupid its business
they allowed him to go to every other team and he only want to go to Vit then that's not fnc fault why would you help a super team assembl
Nrg is good why didn't he go shut up man
G2 is good why he didn't go

uwukitten [#4]

so all the leaks are false? seems more plausible to me that he's lying, vitality isn't some poor org

Being poor and being willing to throw money at a buy out that they can possibly try reduce.
If your Vitality and have confidence Derke will refuse any offer other than yours why wouldn't you try lowball Fnatic for a bit until either it's later in the off season and they're more open to sell lower or until later in the off season when you just pay full price and it's the same as if you didn't try get a better deal.

Is the art of Facebook marketplace not something taught outside of Aus?

Rocky54 [#32]

Why would you stupid its business
they allowed him to go to every other team and he only want to go to Vit then that's not fnc fault why would you help a super team assembl
Nrg is good why didn't he go shut up man
G2 is good why he didn't go

yeah you're definitely retarded 😹is this what it's like to be 14 and edgy?

yes

early stages of G2 Perkz transfer with carlos

i do not wish to go through that moment again

PrinceCharming [#33]

Being poor and being willing to throw money at a buy out that they can possibly try reduce.
If your Vitality and have confidence Derke will refuse any offer other than yours why wouldn't you try lowball Fnatic for a bit until either it's later in the off season and they're more open to sell lower or until later in the off season when you just pay full price and it's the same as if you didn't try get a better deal.

Is the art of Facebook marketplace not something taught outside of Aus?

from the leaks we've had, vitality is offering more money than other orgs

uwukitten [#37]

from the leaks we've had, vitality is offering more money than other orgs

But are they offering more than the actual buyout amount written in the contact. There's worlds where both the rumor's and Cojo's statement are true. If no one has offered the full buy out amount which is possible if it's set an unattainable level (which is possible if your selling a 2 time lan winner with huge amounts of longevity) then Vitality could still be the largest bid, but not meet the buyout.

Then to cover people saying they have accepted other offers, yeah they can probably do that. I could very much believe that there's a clause allowing them to accept lower buyout if the org is willing and they might only be willing to accept lower buyouts if the org's looking to buy aren't vitality.

uwukitten [#34]

yeah you're definitely retarded 😹is this what it's like to be 14 and edgy?

Look at your name clown who's the 14

SunnyFromVLR [#17]

Its crazy cojo said that vitality didnt meet derkes buyout lmao
Massive org like vitality getting outbid by these new val orgs like M8? Sure buddy we believe u cojo XD

Vitality doesn't have to be outbid for the statements to be true. If they're all bellow the buyout it's probably up to mutual agreement (so both fnatic and Derke) to decide which offer can be accepted. So if Fnatic put pressure on saying they're willing to except lower offers from teams who aren't vitality its basically just there to put pressure on to Vit pay sticker price putting the power back in their hands to see who compromises first Vitality's accountants or Derke's preference

orqn [#30]

he is american

🤣🤣🤣

I rather trust a GM for esport orgs than some randoms on a video game forums