this sounds crazy but is there too much money in gc? watching these games gives me the vibe that the players feel complacent to sit in gc and get free paychecks instead of pushing themselves against "better" teams. there is no reason to push in to t2 as there is no money whatsoever so its just this weird walled garden where there is raw talent that is seemingly stuck within
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MrAbsol [#4]tbh, the only game changers team in the history of valorant to even somewhat compete with top level male teams is shopify. G2 god bodied by a tier 3 team, every other GC team cant play against any T3 competition without losing
Any t1 team would smoke SR, yes even bleed and mibr
Have you seen shopify in any t2 open qualifier? They get slapped (facing t3 talent, not even real teams)
Shot_UP is the best player they have ever faced and they can't even beat him
MrAbsol [#4]tbh, the only game changers team in the history of valorant to even somewhat compete with top level male teams is shopify. G2 god bodied by a tier 3 team, every other GC team cant play against any T3 competition without losing
what are u on about, g2 perform better against t2 than shopify does
and this current g2 only tried once
nobody___100 [#7]i've mentioned this before but GC champs having the same prize pool as madrid or lock//in is insane
Just for 20K watchers .
kanyefan4238173 [#6]what are u on about, g2 perform better against t2 than shopify does
and this current g2 only tried once
yea, once is enough to prove that you dont belong in T1. They preformed against a T3 team, and got smoked. Redbull homeground, they looked horrendous
yall need to chill about gc. gc makes money because women like to watch women. it deserves to exist and it doesnt discourage players just because women happen to be a profitable ad market. smh. gc teams do challengers quals the program is working. if you really want to encourage gc to join t2 complain about t2 qualifers being so close to gc events which means gc teams cant practice for t2 or sometimes even have scheduling conflicts
nobody___100 [#7]i've mentioned this before but GC champs having the same prize pool as madrid or lock//in is insane
thas why the debate about gc players going to t1 is stupid why leave a place were is more easy and you recieve the same ammount of money, if flourescent keep winning on gc she will never leae that scene
MrAbsol [#11]yea, once is enough to prove that you dont belong in T1. They preformed against a T3 team, and got smoked. Redbull homeground, they looked horrendous
That was a different team retard
Also that team was literally in tier 2 at the time. Shopify lose to teams that don’t even make challengers
Also ur calling a 2-1 smoked
kanyefan4238173 [#16]That was a different team retard
Also that team was literally in tier 2 at the time. Shopify lose to teams that don’t even make challengers
Also ur calling a 2-1 smoked
Woah, someones getting a little angry here. No need to call me a retard when we're having a debate. makes you a prick. now, let me get on with my point, that is deadass a tier 3 team. It doesnt matter if they're in a t2 tournament, what matters how much they're represented, getting payed and how well they do. They did shit, hence making them tier 3...and yes, 2-1 is getting smoked. A win is a win, a loss is a loss
kanyefan4238173 [#16]That was a different team retard
Also that team was literally in tier 2 at the time. Shopify lose to teams that don’t even make challengers
Also ur calling a 2-1 smoked
btw, they didnt even make the league until after the G2 win, so no, they were'nt even a T2 team to begin with
MrAbsol [#18]btw, they didnt even make the league until after the G2 win, so no, they were'nt even a T2 team to begin with
This isn’t a debate ur just straight up incorrect over and over bro
You told me 2 straight up lies now. Don’t talk about what u don’t know
kanyefan4238173 [#19]This isn’t a debate ur just straight up incorrect over and over bro
You told me 2 straight up lies now. Don’t talk about what u don’t know
then tell me what I lied about what. You're being delusional
kanyefan4238173 [#19]This isn’t a debate ur just straight up incorrect over and over bro
You told me 2 straight up lies now. Don’t talk about what u don’t know
https://www.vlr.gg/295007/nxt-vs-predator-xperion-nxt-challengers-league-2024-dach-evolution-split-1-open-qualifier-lr4
Jan. 15th, 2024
https://www.vlr.gg/342969/g2-gozen-vs-xperion-nxt-challengers-league-2024-dach-evolution-split-1-p1r1
May 5th, 2024
https://www.vlr.gg/342975/teamorangegaming-vs-xperion-nxt-challengers-league-2024-dach-evolution-split-1-decider
Officially made into DACH on May 7th, 2024
You tell me who knows his facts now NRG meat rider
MrAbsol [#20]then tell me what I lied about what. You're being delusional
Ok Ykw you only lied once but you’re talking about games from the old g2 roster which was clearly makeshift asf
It’s being disingenuous because obviously we’re talking about the current g2 team
U don’t know ball brah I don’t care to talk to you abt this
kanyefan4238173 [#22]Ok Ykw you only lied once but you’re talking about games from the old g2 roster which was clearly makeshift asf
It’s being disingenuous because obviously we’re talking about the current g2 team
U don’t know ball brah I don’t care to talk to you abt this
bouta be zero lies after I dog on your ass a second time
https://www.vlr.gg/team/transactions/6530/g2-gozen/
last player transaction was May 17th, but wait, she never played in the game against Xperion NXT. This is the same fucking team you delusional cunt. You dont know how to ball, you're a bench warmer and meat rider. Know your facts lil goof
kanyefan4238173 [#22]Ok Ykw you only lied once but you’re talking about games from the old g2 roster which was clearly makeshift asf
It’s being disingenuous because obviously we’re talking about the current g2 team
U don’t know ball brah I don’t care to talk to you abt this
this is THE SAME TEAM FROM THE TIER 2 GAME AS YOU CALL IT
MrAbsol [#23]bouta be zero lies after I dog on your ass a second time
https://www.vlr.gg/team/transactions/6530/g2-gozen/
last player transaction was May 17th, but wait, she never played in the game against Xperion NXT. This is the same fucking team you delusional cunt. You dont know how to ball, you're a bench warmer and meat rider. Know your facts lil goof
Bro u didn’t even mention what I said what r u on about
I’m talking about red bull home ground
kanyefan4238173 [#26]Bro u didn’t even mention what I said what r u on about
I’m talking about red bull home ground
still shitty asf. if they cant play a t3 team they cant play a t1
moomoomoomeadows [#12]yall need to chill about gc. gc makes money because women like to watch women. it deserves to exist and it doesnt discourage players just because women happen to be a profitable ad market. smh. gc teams do challengers quals the program is working. if you really want to encourage gc to join t2 complain about t2 qualifers being so close to gc events which means gc teams cant practice for t2 or sometimes even have scheduling conflicts
I don't care about game changers, but the viewership can't make enough money alone. If game changers had skins I could understand, but they don't even have that. Riot probably doesn't get anything out of game changers other than good will. Peak game changers viewership was 293,900 peak viewers while most regions have higher peaks, and most internationals have an average higher than their peak.
tipthetim [#28]I don't care about game changers, but the viewership can't make enough money alone. If game changers had skins I could understand, but they don't even have that. Riot probably doesn't get anything out of game changers other than good will. Peak game changers viewership was 293,900 peak viewers while most regions have higher peaks, and most internationals have an average higher than their peak.
game changers is simply there for progressive representation. none of these players are ever going to be seen in t1 unless riot start paying orgs extra money to include them.
the eco system of GC is horrible and they are just far behind
MrAbsol [#27]still shitty asf. if they cant play a t3 team they cant play a t1
It’s not a tier 3 level team if they qual to tier 2
Give them time together I promise they will qual to tier 2, even if just for a bit and even just barely
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