80% of teams in franchising would benefit from having her but I don't imagine her leaving EG because her buyout is probably mad expensive
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ParisVLR [#3]I have a hot take about potter but I would get hella hate for it.
What is it I won't judge
Galactc [#4]What is it I won't judge
Yes she is a good coach. But her dream run at masters and champs was only possible with demon 1. The main roster was ass
AlexSMTx [#5]7 downvotes in one minute is crazy work tho
sadly there are a lot of deluded people on vlr who thinks she can magically make trash teams good
ParisVLR [#6]Yes she is a good coach. But her dream run at masters and champs was only possible with demon 1. The main roster was ass
demon1 helped actualize their potential. I think they would still be a great team if 2024 same roster but replace demon1.
ParisVLR [#6]Yes she is a good coach. But her dream run at masters and champs was only possible with demon 1. The main roster was ass
If the main roster was ass doesnt it make her work even more impressive?
ParisVLR [#6]Yes she is a good coach. But her dream run at masters and champs was only possible with demon 1. The main roster was ass
That's a fair take tbh EG worked of Demon1 getting impact frags on duelist/smokes although I don't quite think they were ass just good enough individually to win champs as long as they supported Demon1 and they kept their system (I still think c0m is a champs merchant and ethan is just alright but 0 people agree with me)
dort [#8]sadly there are a lot of deluded people on vlr who thinks she can magically make trash teams good
Having apoth in 2024
And Winning 5 games is respecc++++
ParisVLR [#6]Yes she is a good coach. But her dream run at masters and champs was only possible with demon 1. The main roster was ass
you say that like boostio, jawg, and c0m's transformation across the season wasn't night and day
c0m went from being top 1 guys everyone thought should be dropped on that roster and a fraud and stealing bcj's spot to winning 7 clutches in the lower bracket finals at champions and singlehandedly carrying eg to beating prx on ascent in upper finals because potter identified c0m's win conditions and made adjustments to the system that allowed him to find the lurk timings he is so incredibly good at
then c0m joined lev and his performance dropped off a cliff because he was made to play a different role and didnt get any of the opportunities to do the exact things that made him a world champion the year prior
and that's just 1 of 3, i could go into detail about the other two also
dort [#15]yep, only took 2 years
best coach itw!
It took chet longer to win in 2 different games lil bro
dort [#15]yep, only took 2 years
best coach itw!
thats a pretty quick time for a rebuild to champs + still did it + snort
Galactc [#13]That's a fair take tbh EG worked of Demon1 getting impact frags on duelist/smokes although I don't quite think they were ass just good enough individually to win champs as long as they supported Demon1 and they kept their system (I still think c0m is a champs merchant and ethan is just alright but 0 people agree with me)
ethan is just alright might be the worst take ive heard about the eg roster in my entire life
Galactc [#13]That's a fair take tbh EG worked of Demon1 getting impact frags on duelist/smokes although I don't quite think they were ass just good enough individually to win champs as long as they supported Demon1 and they kept their system (I still think c0m is a champs merchant and ethan is just alright but 0 people agree with me)
why is ethan “alright”? He was fragging out a ton, literally solo won them bind vs loud in champs, only person to actually shoot back vs fnatic asides from demon1 in GF, on top of that his supportive utility is great. Even this year he showed that he can take over the games and help out a lot
finnwithtwons [#19]ethan is just alright might be the worst take ive heard about the eg roster in my entire life
Idk I feel like I've seen better initiators but he just fits on any team as long as he isn't the best player on it
catNmouse [#22]why is ethan “alright”? He was fragging out a ton, literally solo won them bind vs loud in champs, only person to actually shoot back vs fnatic asides from demon1 in GF, on top of that his supportive utility is great. Even this year he showed that he can take over the games and help out a lot
I feel like I've seen better initiators but also he's not bad in a detrimental way like he deserves his success I just don't think he's the best in his role
Galactc [#23]Idk I feel like I've seen better initiators but he just fits on any team as long as he isn't the best player on it
Better initiators such as..?
Galactc [#23]Idk I feel like I've seen better initiators but he just fits on any team as long as he isn't the best player on it
the quality of his support as a flash initiator is genuinely unmatched by any other flash player in the world
you can almost discern precisely the impact of his comms through watching his matches with sound off
this is elmapuddy's scouting report of him prior to champs23 - you can watch some of the clips he's referencing on the right side of the sheet
really highlights just how incredibly quality he is as a support player in a team environment, its unmatched
he even does it on yoru borderline perfectly
catNmouse [#25]Better initiators such as..?
Ngl NA flash initiators are mostly unremarkable there's ethan and zellsis (I think he's a little better than ethan but who cares they're the only good ones anyway) nature (whose alright) and dogshit nepo babies asuna and xeppaa
Outside of NA there's heat, zap could be better if 2g end up being solid, kingg and mazino
Galactc [#28]Ngl NA flash initiators are mostly unremarkable there's ethan and zellsis (I think he's a little better than ethan but who cares they're the only good ones anyway) nature (whose alright) and dogshit nepo babies asuna and xeppaa
Outside of NA there's heat, zap could be better if 2g end up being solid, kingg and mazino
Heat has bad util usage
finnwithtwons [#26]the quality of his support as a flash initiator is genuinely unmatched by any other flash player in the world
you can almost discern precisely the impact of his comms through watching his matches with sound off
this is elmapuddy's scouting report of him prior to champs23 - you can watch some of the clips he's referencing on the right side of the sheet
really highlights just how incredibly quality he is as a support player in a team environment, its unmatched
he even does it on yoru borderline perfectly
Yeah he's great just not the best I wasn't sure how to word it but also is the na flash initiator market that cooked I tried remembering who is a good na flash initiator and besides ethan it's literally just zellsis
Two_Percent [#32]Ok she’s good but not that good
Like everyone forgot how good mce was he could save teams rn
Yeah but I thought we was sticking to collgiate teams for now
ParisVLR [#6]Yes she is a good coach. But her dream run at masters and champs was only possible with demon 1. The main roster was ass
Sure but she scouted Demon1 that's part of the job. She got lucky to get a crazy badge with talent, but let's not forget she built that roster a month later than everyone else with basically leftovers
Two_Percent [#32]Ok she’s good but not that good
Like everyone forgot how good mce was he could save teams rn
Mce seems great a at building rosters but then seems to get lost couple months after
Mortadelo [#35]Mce seems great a at building rosters but then seems to get lost couple months after
It's both a pattern and kind of a tragedy because it was sort of out of his control to an extent each time
Galactc [#36]It's both a pattern and kind of a tragedy because it was sort of out of his control to an extent each time
what happened last year? They just lost right?
Mortadelo [#37]what happened last year? They just lost right?
I meant the shit with yay but yeah they kinda chocked both in lcq and playoffs
Galactc [#30]Yeah he's great just not the best I wasn't sure how to word it but also is the na flash initiator market that cooked I tried remembering who is a good na flash initiator and besides ethan it's literally just zellsis
nismo
Mortadelo [#35]Mce seems great a at building rosters but then seems to get lost couple months after
Regular season c9 2023 was a beast of a team
Two_Percent [#40]Regular season c9 2023 was a beast of a team
exactly, and then they weren't, that's my point
Kyronnn [#9]demon1 helped actualize their potential. I think they would still be a great team if 2024 same roster but replace demon1.
Ethan explicitly said they were dogshit until demon1 joined. He said this in an interview with Thorin.
Kyronnn [#9]demon1 helped actualize their potential. I think they would still be a great team if 2024 same roster but replace demon1.
Depends on who, otherwise hard disagree.
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