??????????? hes legit not even a tejo counter

he is the biggest vyse counter but he is not even close to a tejo counter

probably a hot take, but the only reason that the current meta has so much flexibility is that solo yoru is pretty bad / abusable on a lot of maps.

For example, solo yoru on split is pretty bad, because the main thing that the comp does is tp backsite b, and if this gets countered the comp is suddenly a LOT worse, and attack gets very very hard.

https://youtu.be/5WWXJqfqZDY?si=4GgYz1t6ajfhC4PE

watch this bro

He has never been a great entry player, his jett is decent but you have to play so hard around the fact that he is not a good entry player.
He can be the best player in the world in a good system that can have him off the entry (like EG, where boostio was taking as much if not more entries than him), but this is so hard to do when he plays duelist. He is just not made for the role, doesnt have an aim style or playstyle that suits the role, and just keeps playing it out of ego, when the only duelist he was ever good on was jett.

He should be playing roles closer to the roles of meteor, or keiko, where he plays jett or iso on some maps but NEVER has to take the responsibility of entrying for the team.

Basically my point is : solo duelist demon1 = auto loss, unless you have a psychopath like boostio or meteor that will entry on fucking kj on your team.

NO BUT FOR REAL

YORU ISO SOVA IS META ON HAVEN

you have something, who can and wants to play flash agents, but who also wants to op, and has crazy movement...
hmmmm
why not try yoru ? NO HES ON BREACH

you have jingg, who can play raze, reyna, sage... maybe put him on iso ? iso is a really simple agent to play on haven as long as you know your role in the comp (jingg has shown that he can excel in that type of agent, where he has 1 role, and then its basically jingg go kill).
BUT NO HES ON SMOKES

forsaken can play any agent and can be mega flexible... LETS MAKE HIM PLAY WAYLAY ON EVERYMAP AND NOT USE HIS FLEXIBILITY

davai is a great sentinel player, and a great skye player (you know, an agent with a flash that gets info... like another agent in the game i think... maybe... cant remember :p) BUT NO MINDFREAK IS ON VYSE

also you have mindfreak, who is NOT known for his flexibility, but is known to be a great controller player, who can be a monster when he is in a confortable spot... AND YOU MAKE HIM PLAY SENTINEL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

like you have forsaken on perma duelist duty, when you could have something on yoru when you need a yoru, jingg on waylay / raze when you dont, but he can play iso or cypher if you need. Then you have mindfreak on perma controller, and then forsaken and davai flexing around like they always have. I feel like the roles were always shit on this team, but i feel like alecks is doing a pretty poor job of exploiting the strengths of his players.

I feel like this wasnt a problem before because prx players just used to play whatever the fuck they wanted, but now they maybe wanna win too hard and thus flex around when they dont need to ?

im so serious, demon1 needs to get the fucking yay treatment. Stop this guy from playing duelist at all costs, and this will make you win games. He completely fucked LEV's year by lying and saying he could play duelist, when he CLEARLY hasnt been an entry player ever and never will, and the meta has shifted so that you CANNOT have a player on an agent that brings 0 utility to the team anymore. I think they need to get rid of Rossy (because I think he brings no value through his IGLing, he is a great player but i would rather have COM or tex) and get an actual duelist somewhere (FLOR IS STILL STUCK IN APEKS JAIL BTW)

kingg is on duelist man, like why do you even ask

hyunmin and freeing are fucking goated
nongshim are so fun to watch, especially dambi (either the dirtiest inter on the planet or the most goated entry you could ever want rn)
stax and buzz are hella exciting as well

but yeah apac is the only fun region to watch rn, fpx (igl cant even fucking speak chinese) and w0lves are the best teams in china (chichoo and smoggy are not clicking rn so edg just lose, and trace are not traceing), gluequid is in the top 3 of emea, and g2 are dominating na so we just sleep

nismo

johnqt can play recon initiator, zekken is NOT the recon initiator

biggest bait i ever seen

great post GOAT

harbor doesnt need changes imo, he has a good niche as a controller, its just very hard to use and, as you argued with yoru, most pro teams will never exploit him that well.

Agree with the chamber change, his trip being non global is just annoying as fuck and is a big nerf on maps where he could be good (abyss)

sage and deadlock can be good in pro play because they heavily counter the flood retake style that is used a lot on certain maps (haven or lotus).
For example, its so so hard to retake b site lotus or a site haven when the enemy team has a deadlock or a sage (if they cycle their util well).
Problem is, its hard to make it fit in a comp, as it doesnt really have a ton of synergy with other agents, except with raze, which only makes this idea really viable on lotus imo (could be hot take).
And even then, i dont think this comp is better than the meta one with viper, but could work IF you lean heavy on b site (as the viper comp usually tries to allocate as little resources as possible to B), which is unfortunately mega readable.
This is why the FUT comp with a sage and no init was working in EMEA in split 1, it can take opponents by surprise.

I think its mostly useful in a gimmick way tho, as an alternative to the default comp, and considering how hard it can be to play it, im not sure its worth the time.

Clove will probably never get reworked for pro play and i think its good, they are a ranked agent, made for ranked, not pro play.

Agree with the iso change, maybe change some numbers but thats a decent idea.

L breach change tho, its only easy to dodge if you know where its coming from, if it takes you by surprise it can be hard as fuck to dodge

L jett change, jett is fine

Reyna has a niche in pro play (just look at paper rex), and phoenix too with 6 orb ult (he would be played a lot more if pearl was in rotation).
Also im not sure phoenix is played that much in ranked ? might be just my experience tho.

already talked about sage but also her wall can make retakes on sites where there is a post plant meta (b on abyss or b on sunset) a lot easier, and teams can work with that. Sliggy says this might be really good on abyss, i have doubts but who knows.

deadlock is really fucking good in ranked tho, you should try it shes really fun

also w take on yoru, should probably be a 8 orb ult, his ult is top 3 best ults in the game with iso ult and sova ult imo. idk why the fuck he has a 7 orb ult.

(me when i get baited)

No srsly this take when fpx were 2-0 down to Trace Esports is too crazy

me when im a paid agent from the chinese government

im so serious fnatic and g2 are at the same level as heretics right now, they are in front of the gap. I think its more accurate to get rid of the tier with g2, fnc, 100t, etc. and just put g2 and fnc with the top teams and the others with the rest

wow thats mega bold, you dont believe in LEV ? I dont have a lot of belief in 100T or SEN right now, but LEV look good as fuck

i dont even think the outlaw is that clean, the replay guy is just too insane and it makes every skin look goated

most competitive region when apac exists kek

you do know that there are probably internal issues between aspas and less/saadhak ?

and who the fuck plays raze lol ? demon1's raze is not good enough to be a champ