Derke joining another emea team : NOOO TOO SCARY we can't allow that to happen
Also fnatic: yes nrg and g2 please take derke so you can build a superteam and eliminate us in an international event.
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Soddalele [#2]i mean there is a significant difference but i see your point
They never had any issues qualifying for events and derke going to vitality wouldn't change that
gold2peak [#3]They never had any issues qualifying for events and derke going to vitality wouldn't change that
they also didnt win anything internationally.. regionally they did well but honestly i don't think they were that strong this year
Mortadelo [#5]Tf they supposed to do, kill the guy or something? If you have to choose 1 of the 2 let it at least only have to face it in international
sell him to chinese ascension team and watch them fumble in finals or some shi
Mortadelo [#5]Tf they supposed to do, kill the guy or something? If you have to choose 1 of the 2 let it at least only have to face it in international
Don't force an na team to build a superteam? It's really simple
gold2peak [#7]Don't force an na team to build a superteam? It's really simple
They're not forcing I think Vitality with Sayf trexx and Derke is far more scary than NRG with Derke Verno FNS and whoever tf is playing there
Also they're not forcing anything, they have to sell him somewhere and Derke is not gonna accept to play for DFM
Mortadelo [#8]They're not forcing I think Vitality with Sayf trexx and Derke is far more scary than NRG with Derke Verno FNS and whoever tf is playing there
Also they're not forcing anything, they have to sell him somewhere and Derke is not gonna accept to play for DFM
yea i mean if anything he is just forcing his own narrative. seems a lil unreasonable
Mortadelo [#8]They're not forcing I think Vitality with Sayf trexx and Derke is far more scary than NRG with Derke Verno FNS and whoever tf is playing there
Also they're not forcing anything, they have to sell him somewhere and Derke is not gonna accept to play for DFM
But it doesn't really matter what's going on in eu, there are 2-4 potential spots for international tournaments and they've been farming this region since 2022. At international tournaments if they lose once they're basically finished, boaster is not the guy for lower bracket runs. So trying to sell derke to an american org is much worse. Imagine G2 with derke and not i*y.
gold2peak [#10]But it doesn't really matter what's going on in eu, there are 2-4 potential spots for international tournaments and they've been farming this region since 2022. At international tournaments if they lose once they're basically finished, boaster is not the guy for lower bracket runs. So trying to sell derke to an american org is much worse. Imagine G2 with derke and not i*y.
As I said I'm far more scared of Trexx Sayf and Derke than I am of JonnaP Trent and Derke
Fnatic cant win internationally so they settled with being the regional champs lol
Most of the fans keep coping they are so good cus they won both regional stages of VCT but fail to see the international results XD
Now they dont want to give derke away to vitality cus they know derke will shit on them with sayf and trexx
gatekeeping derke to be the ONLY super team in memea is crazy
Mortadelo [#8]They're not forcing I think Vitality with Sayf trexx and Derke is far more scary than NRG with Derke Verno FNS and whoever tf is playing there
Also they're not forcing anything, they have to sell him somewhere and Derke is not gonna accept to play for DFM
Derke Verno s0m and Ethan ya mean lmao
EpicGamerGamingEpicly [#14]fnatic get more money if they sell him to NA simple as
nah they're just scared they wont be the only SUPERTEAM in emea if derke goes to sayf and trexx
SunnyFromVLR [#13]Fnatic cant win internationally so they settled with being the regional champs lol
Most of the fans keep coping they are so good cus they won both regional stages of VCT but fail to see the international results XD
Now they dont want to give derke away to vitality cus they know derke will shit on them with sayf and trexx
gatekeeping derke to be the ONLY super team in memea is crazy
Somebody needs to save leo from boaster
gold2peak [#18]Somebody needs to save leo from boaster
Chronicle should be saved too. Maybe it's time to reunite with nAts and sheydos
Itsover [#19]Chronicle should be saved too. Maybe it's time to reunite with nAts and sheydos
fr they both should run, joining liquid with nats and keiko might be the play lowkey
Mortadelo [#11]As I said I'm far more scared of Trexx Sayf and Derke than I am of JonnaP Trent and Derke
Sayf or Derke off role without any decent IGL and a bunch of unproven players is so scary oh no
SunnyFromVLR [#16]nah they're just scared they wont be the only SUPERTEAM in emea if derke goes to sayf and trexx
Heretics
Mortadelo [#17]Idfk, point stands tho
you cant compare the best 3 players of vitality and compare 2 of the best and their IGL of NRG who isnt that good mechanically just to make your point lmao. s0m was one of if not the best controller player of 2023. Ethan is one of the best supportive flashes init in the world and Verno is one of the best up and coming rookies in the world. You are also forgetting if Derke was to go to VIT sayf would be off the duelist role and be back on sentinel which he didnt have that much success on lmao
Yuniee44 [#23]Sayf or Derke off role without any decent IGL and a bunch of unproven players is so scary oh no
sayf off role 😂
number 1 accepted lie on vlr
patuj [#24]Somewhat understandable, but fuck Fnatic if they force Derke to join NA team
Derke has the final decision
kfan4238173 [#27]sayf off role 😂
number 1 accepted lie on vlr
off role is when he willingly chose to play that role so other players can shine on the role he “prefers”
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kfan4238173 [#27]sayf off role 😂
number 1 accepted lie on vlr
Yeah VIT worked so well with him off duelist. You are completely delusional if you genuinely believe adding one strong player to a team that has been struggling to do anything since forming is gonna make it a super team.
gold2peak [#22]Thinking about it now what fnatic should've done was -boaster + saadhak, why does derke needs to suffer
ever thought of it that he wanted to leave???
patuj [#24]Somewhat understandable, but fuck Fnatic if they force Derke to join NA team
they aint forcing shit, hes the one who makes the final decision "yeah fuck fnatic bcs derke wanted to go and they r putting him in restricted bcs that what every team would do in their position" also he goes to the team that pays the most u aint seeing M8 pay the same as NRG or G2 or so and also Dekre wants to win trophies and he aint winning with fucking DFM or some shit
SunnyFromVLR [#16]nah they're just scared they wont be the only SUPERTEAM in emea if derke goes to sayf and trexx
holy shit what a braindead take, every team has smarter management and the Roster leaks hint massive rebuilds for most teams and there r still many competitive teams in eu (TH, VIT, KC) also NA has more money tf u think that a team with 500 fans has same money as NRG
Huitzilopochtli [#33]they aint forcing shit, hes the one who makes the final decision "yeah fuck fnatic bcs derke wanted to go and they r putting him in restricted bcs that what every team would do in their position" also he goes to the team that pays the most u aint seeing M8 pay the same as NRG or G2 or so and also Dekre wants to win trophies and he aint winning with fucking DFM or some shit
idk whats actually happening, but last time there was rumors of Derke preferring Vitality but Fnatic doesnt want to sell him to another EMEA team. Would suck if that ended up being the case and he couldn't join the team he wants to. Pretty much same what happened with G2 Perkz in LoL (IIRC).
patuj [#35]idk whats actually happening, but last time there was rumors of Derke preferring Vitality but Fnatic doesnt want to sell him to another EMEA team. Would suck if that ended up being the case and he couldn't join the team he wants to. Pretty much same what happened with G2 Perkz in LoL (IIRC).
ig he was interested in Vit because they were willing to pay the most and he prob liked the players but NRG is richer so obv they can bid more and the players in NRG also very good and i think Derke would like to experience smth new bcs he played almost exclusively in emea and a new region would be smth new, like one of the reasons Saadhak is goin to KC
Huitzilopochtli [#33]they aint forcing shit, hes the one who makes the final decision "yeah fuck fnatic bcs derke wanted to go and they r putting him in restricted bcs that what every team would do in their position" also he goes to the team that pays the most u aint seeing M8 pay the same as NRG or G2 or so and also Dekre wants to win trophies and he aint winning with fucking DFM or some shit
It is pretty important to understand that Derke most likely did not leave on his own volition
Huitzilopochtli [#34]holy shit what a braindead take, every team has smarter management and the Roster leaks hint massive rebuilds for most teams and there r still many competitive teams in eu (TH, VIT, KC) also NA has more money tf u think that a team with 500 fans has same money as NRG
KC is not competitve lil bro. They did kickoff and then dissapeared
Huitzilopochtli [#34]holy shit what a braindead take, every team has smarter management and the Roster leaks hint massive rebuilds for most teams and there r still many competitive teams in eu (TH, VIT, KC) also NA has more money tf u think that a team with 500 fans has same money as NRG
NA and EU are not comparable, in EU you have 1 team thats dominated the region since the first val international in iceland.
(expection being this year where fnatic fell off and TH and VIT/KC stepped up)
In NA you have legit 5-6 teams like SEN, LOUD, OPTIC, NRG, KRU etc etc being competitive every year. Like u can never know who will be dominating the year. Its unpredictable.
In EU u just know its fnatic and they dont want to make it harder for themselves regionally is my point
Yuniee44 [#31]Yeah VIT worked so well with him off duelist. You are completely delusional if you genuinely believe adding one strong player to a team that has been struggling to do anything since forming is gonna make it a super team.
Bro vitality wasn’t bad with him off duelist and he played better when he was off duelist.
They played bad because they had major inconsistency issues at first, they were beating good teams but losing to shit ones. You forget that they only added trexx mid season. Sayf on duelist might have been a good short term solution, but I think the bigger impact on their mid season form switch was the practice they put in following stage 1, since they didn’t have as much before stage 1 having to practice with different players who played different agents.
Also I’m not talking about a super team or anything, also vitality is not looking to change 1 player, they’re looking to change 2.
kfan4238173 [#40]Bro vitality wasn’t bad with him off duelist and he played better when he was off duelist.
They played bad because they had major inconsistency issues at first, they were beating good teams but losing to shit ones. You forget that they only added trexx mid season. Sayf on duelist might have been a good short term solution, but I think the bigger impact on their mid season form switch was the practice they put in following stage 1, since they didn’t have as much before stage 1 having to practice with different players who played different agents.
Also I’m not talking about a super team or anything, also vitality is not looking to change 1 player, they’re looking to change 2.
They played with Trexx and Sayf off duelist for the entirety of Split 1... Which was not a good Split whatsoever. They beat Heretics at their worst (who even lost to BBL). The only actual "good team" they managed to beat was FUT. I dont necessarily think Sayf is bad off Duelist, hes gonna frag either way but I just dont think Vitality adding another good duelist is gonna improve them that much... Firepower is just straight up not the Issue they need to adress.
Yuniee44 [#41]They played with Trexx and Sayf off duelist for the entirety of Split 1... Which was not a good Split whatsoever. They beat Heretics at their worst (who even lost to BBL). The only actual "good team" they managed to beat was FUT. I dont necessarily think Sayf is bad off Duelist, hes gonna frag either way but I just dont think Vitality adding another good duelist is gonna improve them that much... Firepower is just straight up not the Issue they need to adress.
Ok so I don’t even disagree with you. All I teally wanted to say was that sayf doesn’t have any off roles and I think he’s great at anything
kfan4238173 [#42]Ok so I don’t even disagree with you. All I teally wanted to say was that sayf doesn’t have any off roles and I think he’s great at anything
I mean yeah hes just a great player so I doubt hell really be bad in any role
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