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Neon nerf

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#1
KingHeadasz

why hasnt it happened?

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jixk
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i genuinely think if she had 2 stuns and a single slide it wouldn't matter cause people have mastered her like the jett situation people will still fry with her even if there are better picks

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cobalt21312
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gotta nerf her movement, idk why

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temi
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She’s only op in the right player’s hands and that isn’t a majority of the player base… if a significant amount of people learn how to play her then she might get nerfed

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Yuh_aye
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It probably won't happen until top duelists who benefit from it start calling it out

https://www.vlr.gg/406179/neon-fortnite-aim-assist-and-history

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temi [#4]

She’s only op in the right player’s hands and that isn’t a majority of the player base… if a significant amount of people learn how to play her then she might get nerfed

Not true every team is all ascension are abusing the living hell out of it. How can you slide past someone screen and headshot them man.
Does riot just want broken mechanic after broken mechanic in the game?

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KingHeadasz
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temi [#4]

She’s only op in the right player’s hands and that isn’t a majority of the player base… if a significant amount of people learn how to play her then she might get nerfed

that may be true, but im mostly just surprised she hasnt got nerfed yet, for a game that "aiming is key" full accuracy while sliding is just broken.

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jixk [#2]

i genuinely think if she had 2 stuns and a single slide it wouldn't matter cause people have mastered her like the jett situation people will still fry with her even if there are better picks

so back to normal lmao

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Its so funny when it was Jawgemo abusing it you guys were all like "he is so good the only duelist that can play everything" but when is SA abusing it turns out to be a problem, NA is so fucking miserable.

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We are watching the 2 best neons in the world in this tournament, relax, she is not that broken

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EseemedRes1180 [#6]

Not true every team is all ascension are abusing the living hell out of it. How can you slide past someone screen and headshot them man.
Does riot just want broken mechanic after broken mechanic in the game?

There’s always gonna be a broken mechanic… not every team, and even on a lot of teams their neon players don’t know how to use her… there are exceptional players on neon but if we assume a baseline for the average amount of players that play her at the pro level and in ranked queues then those exceptions are minuscule compared to the larger player base

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kingop3n [#8]

so back to normal lmao

yeah and she would be ass compared to jett raze so a small nerf to her diag speed to help lower her value floor without doing much to her celling

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ayamgeprek1
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crying because neon buff is crazy lmaoooo

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KingHeadasz
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Hyssopus1 [#9]

Its so funny when it was Jawgemo abusing it you guys were all like "he is so good the only duelist that can play everything" but when is SA abusing it turns out to be a problem, NA is so fucking miserable.

nah, even when it was Jawg i still said this shit was broken.
full speed sliding with full accuracy is dumb, but since their isnt much players (in pro) playing it till recently she probably wont get nerfed.

Edit: i think their are clips of jawg literally get 2-3k while sliding. its not good.

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Hyssopus1 [#9]

Its so funny when it was Jawgemo abusing it you guys were all like "he is so good the only duelist that can play everything" but when is SA abusing it turns out to be a problem, NA is so fucking miserable.

cause SA is dogshit and needs to abuse broken agent to win. jawgemo doesnt

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jixk [#12]

yeah and she would be ass compared to jett raze so a small nerf to her diag speed to help lower her value floor without doing much to her celling

id rather have an ass agent than a broken one that make trash players top of the scoreboard

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Hyssopus1 [#9]

Its so funny when it was Jawgemo abusing it you guys were all like "he is so good the only duelist that can play everything" but when is SA abusing it turns out to be a problem, NA is so fucking miserable.

it isnt fukcing apex , its a tac shooter game my guy

#18
cohnr
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finally get a duelist that isnt jett or raze

call for nerfs

#19
BadlandsChugs
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Hyssopus1 [#9]

Its so funny when it was Jawgemo abusing it you guys were all like "he is so good the only duelist that can play everything" but when is SA abusing it turns out to be a problem, NA is so fucking miserable.

I mean yeah? Jawg was basically the first person we saw who could play her that well, no shit we wouldn't think it's a problem at the very beginning when literally a single person was doing it.

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thiagomds [#10]

We are watching the 2 best neons in the world in this tournament, relax, she is not that broken

her kits fine, i just think the ult and sliding accuracy can be adjusted a little bit so she cant just slide past a players FOV and 1 tap them.

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UnrivaleD [#16]

id rather have an ass agent than a broken one that make trash players top of the scoreboard

im sorry but neon is easily has one of the highest cellings in the game( i think all agents are easy tho) and someone as good as spike will shit on any body on agent if he got them to this level i get ur team is losing but that is because 2G are better bar for bar zander is the only reason it might be close
but in terms of ranked i agree she is overtuned a nerf to her diag speed(if that doesn't work 1 slide two stun will guarantee it) will have her be even with yoru jett raze

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jixk [#21]

im sorry but neon is easily has one of the highest cellings in the game( i think all agents are easy tho) and someone as good as spike will shit on any body on agent if he got them to this level i get ur team is losing but that is because 2G are better bar for bar zander is the only reason it might be close
but in terms of ranked i agree she is overtuned a nerf to her diag speed(if that doesn't work 1 slide two stun will guarantee it) will have her be even with yoru jett raze

I agree with Spike but Dante looked horrible on anything that wasn’t Neon. it doesn’t always transfer

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temi [#11]

There’s always gonna be a broken mechanic… not every team, and even on a lot of teams their neon players don’t know how to use her… there are exceptional players on neon but if we assume a baseline for the average amount of players that play her at the pro level and in ranked queues then those exceptions are minuscule compared to the larger player base

Nerfs and buffs are never decided from ranked. Ranked is in the worst state ever right now they don't care.

All teams are abusing neon right now its only going to get worse once the regular season starts.now that they are going to nerf cypher we may not have a counter at all to neon

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KingHeadasz
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cohnr [#18]

finally get a duelist that isnt jett or raze

call for nerfs

Nerf everyone, buff Vyse. done.

#25
IZAYA_ORIHARA
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I want phoenix buffs. No one plays him anymore.

#26
KingHeadasz
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BadlandsChugs [#19]

I mean yeah? Jawg was basically the first person we saw who could play her that well, no shit we wouldn't think it's a problem at the very beginning when literally a single person was doing it.

i really only thought she was broken because of people like Jaw, he knows that shes broken and pushes that.
But then again, Jaw is good at literally every duelist, but i still think Neon has the higher win % (if you have a somewhat good neon)

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KingHeadasz
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IZAYA_ORIHARA [#25]

I want phoenix buffs. No one plays him anymore.

His kit is hard to play for, his wall is meh, his flashes are decent (imo), but his mollie needs something.
like, extra duration, wider AOE, burns faster. literally something that can increase the space taken.

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snowconedeity [#22]

I agree with Spike but Dante looked horrible on anything that wasn’t Neon. it doesn’t always transfer

Dante is good at Jett, but he doesn't come close to the level he plays at Neon

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EseemedRes1180 [#23]

Nerfs and buffs are never decided from ranked. Ranked is in the worst state ever right now they don't care.

All teams are abusing neon right now its only going to get worse once the regular season starts.now that they are going to nerf cypher we may not have a counter at all to neon

I didn’t say only ranked… however pick rates in both ranked and pro level play a decent part in the decision making… icba to check pick rates in pro tourneys so based on my eye test:

Ancient - jett
Bind - raze
Abyss - jett, yoru, raze (at least once), neon (at least once)
Sunset - neon, raze
Haven - jett, neon

Icebox - jett, reyna, iso, neon, raze or no duelist
Lotus - neon, raze

Pearl - who knows
Split - neon, raze, jett

(Icba to include every duelist I’ve seen on every map, cgn phoenix, iso haven, etc at pro level)

Besides lotus and sunset u can argue that neon isn’t a priority pick on other maps

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