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IZAYA_ORIHARA [#3]even geng best of korea struggles against prx
prx owns apac region. but suck against NA
*owns apac except for GenG and DRX
IZAYA_ORIHARA [#3]even geng best of korea struggles against prx
prx owns apac region. but suck against NA
brother DRX reverse swept us at the end of stage 2. No being cocky please
IZAYA_ORIHARA [#3]even geng best of korea struggles against prx
prx owns apac region. but suck against NA
''struggles'' https://www.vlr.gg/365318/paper-rex-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-2-ubsf/?game=176176&tab=overview
DSGFan [#6]brother DRX reverse swept us at the end of stage 2. No being cocky please
They played bind in wrong way during the match vs drx
Luckily,we got icebox and lotus out
And pearl(best map ever) and split (good map) are back
yehfela [#9]They played bind in wrong way during the match vs drx
Luckily,we got icebox and lotus out
And pearl(best map ever) and split (good map) are back
all true, but we still shouldn't be cocky
Liotakla [#8]Prx will easily win bruh. People really underestimate t1 teams especially those at the top. Only g2 has been the exception from t2. Spg or riddle any team in pacific hasn't looked good enough to beat top 6 teams of t1 pacific so far.
Except according to Neilzinho SPG were farming teams like Heretics in scrims.
archetype [#11]Except according to Neilzinho SPG were farming teams like Heretics in scrims.
Scrims are a very different things lol. Teams just play scrims to try different things and practice.
Liotakla [#14]Scrims are a very different things lol. Teams just play scrims to try different things and practice.
Sure, but mechanical skill is mechanical skill. You think a highly mechanically gifted team like Heretics just doesn't shoot back because it's practice?
Go look at SPG's comps and tell me why Fnatic stole their Haven comp, or why Trace beat Leviatan with their Bind comp.
These guys obviously know what they're doing.
archetype [#15]Sure, but mechanical skill is mechanical skill. You think a highly mechanically gifted team like Heretics just doesn't shoot back because it's practice?
Go look at SPG's comps and tell me why Fnatic stole their Haven comp, or why Trace beat Leviatan with their Bind comp.
These guys obviously know what they're doing.
Bruh you think this spg has better mechanical skills than heretics or prx? Let them play a real match against prx or any top 5 team from any region maybe except for china I bet you that spg won't win. Also mechanical skills isn't even 30% of what's required to win a game at t1 level.
archetype [#15]Sure, but mechanical skill is mechanical skill. You think a highly mechanically gifted team like Heretics just doesn't shoot back because it's practice?
Go look at SPG's comps and tell me why Fnatic stole their Haven comp, or why Trace beat Leviatan with their Bind comp.
These guys obviously know what they're doing.
they were down 0-7 against rnt yesterday when only the two kazakhs on the team were shooting.
IZAYA_ORIHARA [#18]they were down 0-7 against rnt yesterday when only the two kazakhs on the team were shooting.
literally their first game on stage at an international LAN? Then they went 26-8??
Liotakla [#16]Bruh you think this spg has better mechanical skills than heretics or prx? Let them play a real match against prx or any top 5 team from any region maybe except for china I bet you that spg won't win. Also mechanical skills isn't even 30% of what's required to win a game at t1 level.
Considering Neil literally said SPG farmed Heretics in scrims then at the bare minimum they have the level of mechanics to contend with them. Teams aren't going to somehow "aim less" just because it's a scrim lol. And Heretics are one of the most mechanically talented teams in the world?
And like I said, mechanics aren't enough but they obviously have enough knowledge of the game that tier 1 teams like Fnatic are copying their comps.
archetype [#20]Considering Neil literally said SPG farmed Heretics in scrims then at the bare minimum they have the level of mechanics to contend with them. Teams aren't going to somehow "aim less" just because it's a scrim lol. And Heretics are one of the most mechanically talented teams in the world?
And like I said, mechanics aren't enough but they obviously have enough knowledge of the game that tier 1 teams like Fnatic are copying their comps.
But in actual match I don't see spg win against top level of teams of pacific like drx geng or even prx rn with what they have shown so far. I never said they are bad or can't show some competition but overrating them this much isn't good for even them. Let them win ascension first and show it themselves if they are capable enough in t1. I feel like some of you guys are underrating t1 top teams too much.
IZAYA_ORIHARA [#3]even geng best of korea struggles against prx
prx owns apac region. but suck against NA
trophy check ya bums, stay in yo lane
Liotakla [#21]But in actual match I don't see spg win against top level of teams of pacific like drx geng or even prx rn with what they have shown so far. I never said they are bad or can't show some competition but overrating them this much isn't good for even them. Let them win ascension first and show it themselves if they are capable enough in t1. I feel like some of you guys are underrating t1 top teams too much.
It's not overrating them to state facts. Neil said SPG farmed Heretics in scrims. At the bare minimum, it means they have the mechanics to contend with the 2nd place team at Champs and 2nd best team of 2024.
Which is impressive. They also obviously have enough conceptual knowledge to create comps that are taken by tier 1 teams like Fnatic. Which is also impressive.
I didn't say they'd easily beat Heretics or GENG or PRX or whatever. I just stated the facts.
You're the one who said PRX will "easily" win. Which might not be true. I think sure PRX will win but I'm not underrating or overrating any team by saying it'd be "easy". The only one doing any kind of overrating is you.
bobosian [#24]what is going on can someone just put in a nutshell about spg i dont watch t2 valo
Pressing W in defend site
archetype [#23]It's not overrating them to state facts. Neil said SPG farmed Heretics in scrims. At the bare minimum, it means they have the mechanics to contend with the 2nd place team at Champs and 2nd best team of 2024.
Which is impressive. They also obviously have enough conceptual knowledge to create comps that are taken by tier 1 teams like Fnatic. Which is also impressive.I didn't say they'd easily beat Heretics or GENG or PRX or whatever. I just stated the facts.
You're the one who said PRX will "easily" win. Which might not be true. I think sure PRX will win but I'm not underrating or overrating any team by saying it'd be "easy". The only one doing any kind of overrating is you.
I still think any top 3 team from any region will win against spg from what they have shown so far. Also that's not overrating when prx even in their low have shown what they are capable of. Also it wasn't for just you but many are downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn. Just let spg win this event first. Also scrims are always a very different thing. Like edg were getting destroyed in champs scrims but we saw what happened in actual matchups.
Liotakla [#27]I still think any top 3 team from any region will win against spg from what they have shown so far. Also that's not overrating when prx even in their low have shown what they are capable of. Also it wasn't for just you but many are downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn. Just let spg win this event first. Also scrims are always a very different thing. Like edg were getting destroyed in champs scrims but we saw what happened in actual matchups.
I still think any top 3 team from any region will win against spg from what they have shown so far.
Fucking obviously lol
Also that's not overrating when prx even in their low have shown what they are capable of
And what they're incapable of. Let's be real. PRX are just as likely to make bad mistakes that cost them games as much as insane plays that win them ones. You're just focusing on the latter over the former. Once again, I'm not saying PRX will lose. I think it's obvious a tier 1 team like PRX would win against an inexperienced team like SPG. But I don't necessarily think it'll be easy.
Also scrims are always a very different thing. Like edg were getting destroyed in champs scrims but we saw what happened in actual matchups.
Sure, and GENG were undefeated in scrims at Madrid. And although GENG barely scrimmed at Shanghai I'm pretty sure they did well there too.
archetype [#28]I still think any top 3 team from any region will win against spg from what they have shown so far.
Fucking obviously lol
Also that's not overrating when prx even in their low have shown what they are capable of
And what they're incapable of. Let's be real. PRX are just as likely to make bad mistakes that cost them games as much as insane plays that win them ones. You're just focusing on the latter over the former. Once again, I'm not saying PRX will lose. I think it's obvious a tier 1 team like PRX would win against an inexperienced team like SPG. But I don't necessarily think it'll be easy.
Also scrims are always a very different thing. Like edg were getting destroyed in champs scrims but we saw what happened in actual matchups.
Sure, and GENG were undefeated in scrims at Madrid. And although GENG barely scrimmed at Shanghai I'm pretty sure they did well there too.
And guess who won madrid???
Liotakla [#29]And guess who won madrid???
Who won Madrid in a 3-2 vs a team assembled 2 months prior? The same team that dominantly won through upper bracket and mostly lost because they ran out of energy in their first ever BO5? Don't be intellectually dishonest. You know the point I'm making and you're just acting stupid. Clearly scrims can be just as good of an indicator of a good team as not. And at the bare minimum it's inarguable that a team won't just play worse mechanically because it's a scrim. At the bare minimum if a team of aimers is getting FARMED in scrims then the other team has impressive mechanics of their own.
archetype [#28]I still think any top 3 team from any region will win against spg from what they have shown so far.
Fucking obviously lol
Also that's not overrating when prx even in their low have shown what they are capable of
And what they're incapable of. Let's be real. PRX are just as likely to make bad mistakes that cost them games as much as insane plays that win them ones. You're just focusing on the latter over the former. Once again, I'm not saying PRX will lose. I think it's obvious a tier 1 team like PRX would win against an inexperienced team like SPG. But I don't necessarily think it'll be easy.
Also scrims are always a very different thing. Like edg were getting destroyed in champs scrims but we saw what happened in actual matchups.
Sure, and GENG were undefeated in scrims at Madrid. And although GENG barely scrimmed at Shanghai I'm pretty sure they did well there too.
Also my original comment was maybe a bit harsh. Yeah prx especially at their state rn won't win that easily. But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn. This will just create problems for spg rather. So yeah hype your team but don't downplay other or overhype them before they actually achieve something at that level.
Liotakla [#31]Also my original comment was maybe a bit harsh. Yeah prx especially at their state rn won't win that easily. But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn. This will just create problems for spg rather. So yeah hype your team but don't downplay other or overhype them before they actually achieve something at that level.
I'd like to know where I overhyped them or downplayed other teams?
archetype [#30]Who won Madrid in a 3-2 vs a team assembled 2 months prior? The same team that dominantly won through upper bracket and mostly lost because they ran out of energy in their first ever BO5? Don't be intellectually dishonest. You know the point I'm making and you're just acting stupid. Clearly scrims can be just as good of an indicator of a good team as not. And at the bare minimum it's inarguable that a team won't just play worse mechanically because it's a scrim. At the bare minimum if a team of aimers is getting FARMED in scrims then the other team has impressive mechanics of their own.
Bruh scrims aren't really good measure of teams for actual events. Yeah mechanically scrims can show how good the team is but again there have been many examples like geng in scrims but exact opposite of geng performance in actual event. Scrims can't really show the full picture of the team. also haven't I already said that I never called spg bad or not even able to show some competition in other comments. You need to calm down a bit and not get heated like this. Looks You really do love spg too. Maybe you are half Korean ig but yeah calm down a bit.
archetype [#32]I'd like to know where I overhyped them or downplayed other teams?
Again bruh calm down and read my above comment again. "But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn." You see what I have been saying. Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little but again my original comment was for those that were downplaying t1 teams to hype spg.
Liotakla [#33]Bruh scrims aren't really good measure of teams for actual events. Yeah mechanically scrims can show how good the team is but again there have been many examples like geng in scrims but exact opposite of geng performance in actual event. Scrims can't really show the full picture of the team. also haven't I already said that I never called spg bad or not even able to show some competition in other comments. You need to calm down a bit and not get heated like this. Looks You really do love spg too. Maybe you are half Korean ig but yeah calm down a bit.
Yeah mechanically scrims can show how good the team is but again there have been many examples like geng in scrims but exact opposite of geng performance in actual event.
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When lol? GENG were monsters and scrims and for the most part were monsters in officials? They made every grand final except one for the entire year. They are mechanical monsters as well, I think Boaster was saying GENG were the only team shooting back when they scrimmed them for Madrid. Scrimwise and officials-wise, they were mechanically insane.
A lot of things don't carry over from scrims, but if a team is consistently doing well mechanically they'll likely be just as good in officials. You can't have good aim in practice and have bad aim in officials the same way you can have good ideas that don't work out.
Don't know what's so hard to understand about this.
You need to calm down a bit and not get heated like this.
Sounds like you're more upset than I am considering you're just not getting what I'm saying, and I've repeated myself 3 different ways. I'd say I'm being way more patient and reasonable than you. I think you should take a breath and reread our entire conversation.
Liotakla [#34]Again bruh calm down and read my above comment again. "But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn." You see what I have been saying. Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little but again my original comment was for those that were downplaying t1 teams to hype spg.
Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little
Sounds like you're just acting emotionally. I gave you the facts.
They farmed Heretics in scrims. Tier 1 teams stole their comps.
That's all I said. Did I say they'd beat PRX? No. Did I say they'd win Ascension? No.
I only said they can hold their own against one of the best mechanical teams in the world, and they appear to have an understanding of the game that tier 1 teams like Fnatic respect enough to steal their comps.
Please tell me where I'm wrong in this assessment or where I overrated SPG in it. And calm down. You keep acting like I'm calling them the best Valorant team of all time or something.
archetype [#36]Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little
Sounds like you're just acting emotionally. I gave you the facts.
They farmed Heretics in scrims. Tier 1 teams stole their comps.
That's all I said. Did I say they'd beat PRX? No. Did I say they'd win Ascension? No.
I only said they can hold their own against one of the best mechanical teams in the world, and they appear to have an understanding of the game that tier 1 teams like Fnatic respect enough to steal their comps.
Please tell me where I'm wrong in this assessment or where I overrated SPG in it. And calm down. You keep acting like I'm calling them the best Valorant team of all time or something.
Yeah I overreacted to your comments IG. But again my original comment wasn't directed towards you at all and my comments about them bring overhyped by downplaying other teams has been directed towards people who were doing that. So again calm down bruh.
archetype [#36]Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little
Sounds like you're just acting emotionally. I gave you the facts.
They farmed Heretics in scrims. Tier 1 teams stole their comps.
That's all I said. Did I say they'd beat PRX? No. Did I say they'd win Ascension? No.
I only said they can hold their own against one of the best mechanical teams in the world, and they appear to have an understanding of the game that tier 1 teams like Fnatic respect enough to steal their comps.
Please tell me where I'm wrong in this assessment or where I overrated SPG in it. And calm down. You keep acting like I'm calling them the best Valorant team of all time or something.
Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality. I guess you must be Korean or a koreaboo so you do as you wish.
Liotakla [#38]Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality. I guess you must be Korean or a koreaboo so you do as you wish.
But again my original comment wasn't directed towards you at all and my comments about them bring overhyped by downplaying other teams has been directed towards people who were doing that
You said PRX would win easily. I disagreed. Where's the overreaction?
Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality.
I don't see you getting hyped for any team that isn't from APAC or CN? Are you perhaps a CN person in SEA? I supported Vitality's run to Champs, because I'm a big fan of Sayf. My flag and flair is because of Twisten. I wanted to honour his passing in my own little way out of respect.
Is it bad for me to believe a team that influenced so much of Tier 1 meta comps deserves the respect that tier 1 coaches and teams are giving them? Does that make me Korean?
I can easily turn that argument on its head and say you're CN/SEAsian and you don't like the idea of KR doing well given that you've been disrespecting GENG's achievements and your earliest posts have been saying CN is better than Korea at eSports and all that as well. But obviously that may not be the case and it'd be very rude and disrespectful of me. So I won't. Calm down bruh. I think SPG are a good team. That's it. Idk why I have to be Korean to believe that.
Liotakla [#38]Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality. I guess you must be Korean or a koreaboo so you do as you wish.
wtf are you blabbering about. Why are you obsessed with chinese esports with a uk flag on talking about koreaboo you the chinaboo bro, tryna undermine korean teams and achievements and overhype china. Dumbass chinaboo stay in your lane, tryna act like he knows what he talking about.
archetype [#39]But again my original comment wasn't directed towards you at all and my comments about them bring overhyped by downplaying other teams has been directed towards people who were doing that
You said PRX would win easily. I disagreed. Where's the overreaction?
Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality.
I don't see you getting hyped for any team that isn't from APAC or CN? Are you perhaps a CN person in SEA? I supported Vitality's run to Champs, because I'm a big fan of Sayf. My flag and flair is because of Twisten. I wanted to honour his passing in my own little way out of respect.
Is it bad for me to believe a team that influenced so much of Tier 1 meta comps deserves the respect that tier 1 coaches and teams are giving them? Does that make me Korean?
I can easily turn that argument on its head and say you're CN/SEAsian and you don't like the idea of KR doing well given that you've been disrespecting GENG's achievements and your earliest posts have been saying CN is better than Korea at eSports and all that as well. But obviously that may not be the case and it'd be very rude and disrespectful of me. So I won't. Calm down bruh. I think SPG are a good team. That's it. Idk why I have to be Korean to believe that.
Bruh I have never actually disrespected geng achievements at all. And yeah I love edg fpx but also love sen , prx and even t1 too which is a Korean team by the way. also calling cn better than kr in overall eSports is a fact rn lol not a way of disrespecting Korea. Just from what I have experienced with weebs and koreaboos or Koreans in internet and valo community thought you were one of them as you were this heated about random kr t2 team. Again yeah let's stop the debate here. You just seem a genuinely good guy not those koreaboos. Gl to vit and sayf.
gordonramsay [#40]wtf are you blabbering about. Why are you obsessed with chinese esports with a uk flag on talking about koreaboo you the chinaboo bro, tryna undermine korean teams and achievements and overhype china. Dumbass chinaboo stay in your lane, tryna act like he knows what he talking about.
Demn really long thread
gordonramsay [#40]wtf are you blabbering about. Why are you obsessed with chinese esports with a uk flag on talking about koreaboo you the chinaboo bro, tryna undermine korean teams and achievements and overhype china. Dumbass chinaboo stay in your lane, tryna act like he knows what he talking about.
Bruh just was saying not to overhype spg too much by downplaying t1 teams. It will just hamper spg more. Also never undermined spg achievements in t2 rn anywhere in my comment. Actually learn to read. Lol also a half ass Korean acting like he knows about everything. Stay in America you dumbass lol getting heated for Korea after leaving the country.
Liotakla [#45]Bruh just was saying not to overhype spg too much by downplaying t1 teams. It will just hamper spg more. Also never undermined spg achievements in t2 rn anywhere in my comment. Actually learn to read. Lol also a half ass Korean acting like he knows about everything. Stay in America you dumbass lol getting heated for Korea after leaving the country.
ya dumbass calling someone a koreaboo while doing the exact same shit for china, you not very smart are you. Chinaboo stay in your lane you dont know shit, and not my fault Im still in touch with my culture. I can do whatever I want since Im still korean. How many languages you speak?
gordonramsay [#46]ya dumbass calling someone a koreaboo while doing the exact same shit for china, you not very smart are you. Chinaboo stay in your lane you dont know shit, and not my fault Im still in touch with my culture. I can do whatever I want since Im still korean. How many languages you speak?
Haven't anywhere downplayed other teams or hated on other or get this heated for Chinese teams lol. Yeah I do love cn eSports as they are fun to watch and are easily best overall in eSports. At least not like you a half ass Korean after leaving Korea showing superior complexity to other and bashing on other people and teams. Feeling sad for geng that they got a fan like you. You should stay in America and stop getting involved in Korean things. Fake ass half Korean.
Liotakla [#47]Haven't anywhere downplayed other teams or hated on other or get this heated for Chinese teams lol. Yeah I do love cn eSports as they are fun to watch and are easily best overall in eSports. At least not like you a half ass Korean after leaving Korea showing superior complexity to other and bashing on other people and teams. Feeling sad for geng that they got a fan like you. You should stay in America and stop getting involved in Korean things. Fake ass half Korean.
this chinaboo is calling others koreaboo and getting mad when I called him out for it. What a loser this bum obsesses over chinese esports and when someone does the same for korea ts different. China boo stay in your lane, you really dont know what your talking about. You wish you were anything but from UK. Or are you a chinese immigrant left china to UK? Are you being a hypocrite once again?
gordonramsay [#48]this chinaboo is calling others koreaboo and getting mad when I called him out for it. What a loser this bum obsesses over chinese esports and when someone does the same for korea ts different. China boo stay in your lane, you really dont know what your talking about. You wish you were anything but from UK. Or are you a chinese immigrant left china to UK? Are you being a hypocrite once again?
Lol again never did anything to be called a chinaboo or whatever you are saying. Also called you fake ass half Korean not koreaboo. Acting all Korean after leaving his country for na lol. Looks like after leaving Korea for na you lost your iq and brain too. You look like a loser pathetic American acting like a Korean now after leaving the country.
Liotakla [#49]Lol again never did anything to be called a chinaboo or whatever you are saying. Also called you fake ass half Korean not koreaboo. Acting all Korean after leaving his country for na lol. Looks like after leaving Korea for na you lost your iq and brain too. You look like a loser pathetic American acting like a Korean now after leaving the country.
its kinda funny because everything you just said was wrong. Look I know its tough being from the UK. I would be mad too if I was from there. And my first point was you about you calling someone a koreaboo but you are not chinese obsessing about chinese esports. By your own definition you are a chinaboo you dumbass. And once again you wish you were anything but from UK. Im living life being connected to two countries something you will never experience. You really are clueless, go learn a new language pussy. Mfer thinks if someone leaves a country they instantly become a fake version you dont know how culture works kkkk
gordonramsay [#50]its kinda funny because everything you just said was wrong. Look I know its tough being from the UK. I would be mad too if I was from there. And my first point was you about you calling someone a koreaboo but you are not chinese obsessing about chinese esports. By your own definition you are a chinaboo you dumbass. And once again you wish you were anything but from UK. Im living life being connected to two countries something you will never experience. You really are clueless, go learn a new language pussy. Mfer thinks if someone leaves a country they instantly become a fake version you dont know how culture works kkkk
Yeah fake ass half Korean. Connected to two countries lol. Also I have never obsessed myself with Chinese eSports like those koreaboos do. My favorite team for sure is edg but have never hated or downplayed other teams to hype edg up like the koreaboos. Bro left Korea but left his brain too. Who knows you probably have no culture of Korea left in you.
Liotakla [#51]Yeah fake ass half Korean. Connected to two countries lol. Also I have never obsessed myself with Chinese eSports like those koreaboos do. My favorite team for sure is edg but have never hated or downplayed other teams to hype edg up like the koreaboos. Bro left Korea but left his brain too. Who knows you probably have no culture of Korea left in you.
you have no culture I would go figure out what that means first, before you start calling anyone a fake and assuming they are out of touch w their culture. I can speak and write korean if you want but you wouldnt understand because sadly you are just a UK person. I wonder what YOU are. White brit or an immigrant that lives in uk. Wait are you projecting this whole time? Do you miss your home?
gordonramsay [#52]you have no culture I would go figure out what that means first, before you start calling anyone a fake and assuming they are out of touch w their culture. I can speak and write korean if you want but you wouldnt understand because sadly you are just a UK person. I wonder what YOU are. White brit or an immigrant that lives in uk. Wait are you projecting this whole time? Do you miss your home?
Bruh it's been too long. You win. It was actually fun debating and trolling. Thanks for your time. Also I don't hate kr teams. Just was saying don't overhype spg too much by downplaying other until they have achieved something. That's it bye. but yeah I do love Chinese eSports more but not really a chinaboo or whatever like those koreaboos obsessed with Korea.
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