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I still think any top 3 team from any region will win against spg from what they have shown so far.

Fucking obviously lol

Also that's not overrating when prx even in their low have shown what they are capable of

And what they're incapable of. Let's be real. PRX are just as likely to make bad mistakes that cost them games as much as insane plays that win them ones. You're just focusing on the latter over the former. Once again, I'm not saying PRX will lose. I think it's obvious a tier 1 team like PRX would win against an inexperienced team like SPG. But I don't necessarily think it'll be easy.

Also scrims are always a very different thing. Like edg were getting destroyed in champs scrims but we saw what happened in actual matchups.

Sure, and GENG were undefeated in scrims at Madrid. And although GENG barely scrimmed at Shanghai I'm pretty sure they did well there too.

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Liotakla

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And guess who won madrid???

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Who won Madrid in a 3-2 vs a team assembled 2 months prior? The same team that dominantly won through upper bracket and mostly lost because they ran out of energy in their first ever BO5? Don't be intellectually dishonest. You know the point I'm making and you're just acting stupid. Clearly scrims can be just as good of an indicator of a good team as not. And at the bare minimum it's inarguable that a team won't just play worse mechanically because it's a scrim. At the bare minimum if a team of aimers is getting FARMED in scrims then the other team has impressive mechanics of their own.

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Bruh scrims aren't really good measure of teams for actual events. Yeah mechanically scrims can show how good the team is but again there have been many examples like geng in scrims but exact opposite of geng performance in actual event. Scrims can't really show the full picture of the team. also haven't I already said that I never called spg bad or not even able to show some competition in other comments. You need to calm down a bit and not get heated like this. Looks You really do love spg too. Maybe you are half Korean ig but yeah calm down a bit.

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Yeah mechanically scrims can show how good the team is but again there have been many examples like geng in scrims but exact opposite of geng performance in actual event.

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When lol? GENG were monsters and scrims and for the most part were monsters in officials? They made every grand final except one for the entire year. They are mechanical monsters as well, I think Boaster was saying GENG were the only team shooting back when they scrimmed them for Madrid. Scrimwise and officials-wise, they were mechanically insane.
A lot of things don't carry over from scrims, but if a team is consistently doing well mechanically they'll likely be just as good in officials. You can't have good aim in practice and have bad aim in officials the same way you can have good ideas that don't work out.

Don't know what's so hard to understand about this.

You need to calm down a bit and not get heated like this.

Sounds like you're more upset than I am considering you're just not getting what I'm saying, and I've repeated myself 3 different ways. I'd say I'm being way more patient and reasonable than you. I think you should take a breath and reread our entire conversation.

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Liotakla

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Also my original comment was maybe a bit harsh. Yeah prx especially at their state rn won't win that easily. But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn. This will just create problems for spg rather. So yeah hype your team but don't downplay other or overhype them before they actually achieve something at that level.

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I'd like to know where I overhyped them or downplayed other teams?

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Again bruh calm down and read my above comment again. "But again my comment is directed towards those that have been underrating and downplaying t1 teams to hype spg rn." You see what I have been saying. Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little but again my original comment was for those that were downplaying t1 teams to hype spg.

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Also your comments indeed look like you are overrating them a little

Sounds like you're just acting emotionally. I gave you the facts.
They farmed Heretics in scrims. Tier 1 teams stole their comps.
That's all I said. Did I say they'd beat PRX? No. Did I say they'd win Ascension? No.
I only said they can hold their own against one of the best mechanical teams in the world, and they appear to have an understanding of the game that tier 1 teams like Fnatic respect enough to steal their comps.
Please tell me where I'm wrong in this assessment or where I overrated SPG in it. And calm down. You keep acting like I'm calling them the best Valorant team of all time or something.

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Yeah I overreacted to your comments IG. But again my original comment wasn't directed towards you at all and my comments about them bring overhyped by downplaying other teams has been directed towards people who were doing that. So again calm down bruh.

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Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality. I guess you must be Korean or a koreaboo so you do as you wish.

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But again my original comment wasn't directed towards you at all and my comments about them bring overhyped by downplaying other teams has been directed towards people who were doing that

You said PRX would win easily. I disagreed. Where's the overreaction?

Also don't get this heated for a random t2 kr team. Show this much passion for eu or vitality.

I don't see you getting hyped for any team that isn't from APAC or CN? Are you perhaps a CN person in SEA? I supported Vitality's run to Champs, because I'm a big fan of Sayf. My flag and flair is because of Twisten. I wanted to honour his passing in my own little way out of respect.
Is it bad for me to believe a team that influenced so much of Tier 1 meta comps deserves the respect that tier 1 coaches and teams are giving them? Does that make me Korean?
I can easily turn that argument on its head and say you're CN/SEAsian and you don't like the idea of KR doing well given that you've been disrespecting GENG's achievements and your earliest posts have been saying CN is better than Korea at eSports and all that as well. But obviously that may not be the case and it'd be very rude and disrespectful of me. So I won't. Calm down bruh. I think SPG are a good team. That's it. Idk why I have to be Korean to believe that.

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Bruh I have never actually disrespected geng achievements at all. And yeah I love edg fpx but also love sen , prx and even t1 too which is a Korean team by the way. also calling cn better than kr in overall eSports is a fact rn lol not a way of disrespecting Korea. Just from what I have experienced with weebs and koreaboos or Koreans in internet and valo community thought you were one of them as you were this heated about random kr t2 team. Again yeah let's stop the debate here. You just seem a genuinely good guy not those koreaboos. Gl to vit and sayf.

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wtf are you blabbering about. Why are you obsessed with chinese esports with a uk flag on talking about koreaboo you the chinaboo bro, tryna undermine korean teams and achievements and overhype china. Dumbass chinaboo stay in your lane, tryna act like he knows what he talking about.

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Demn really long thread

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Liotakla

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Bruh just was saying not to overhype spg too much by downplaying t1 teams. It will just hamper spg more. Also never undermined spg achievements in t2 rn anywhere in my comment. Actually learn to read. Lol also a half ass Korean acting like he knows about everything. Stay in America you dumbass lol getting heated for Korea after leaving the country.

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ya dumbass calling someone a koreaboo while doing the exact same shit for china, you not very smart are you. Chinaboo stay in your lane you dont know shit, and not my fault Im still in touch with my culture. I can do whatever I want since Im still korean. How many languages you speak?

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Liotakla

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Haven't anywhere downplayed other teams or hated on other or get this heated for Chinese teams lol. Yeah I do love cn eSports as they are fun to watch and are easily best overall in eSports. At least not like you a half ass Korean after leaving Korea showing superior complexity to other and bashing on other people and teams. Feeling sad for geng that they got a fan like you. You should stay in America and stop getting involved in Korean things. Fake ass half Korean.

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