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#1
Nachtel

Assuming NRG signs Derke

NRG are winning everything next year. I didn't hop on the bandwagon last year because I knew the roster was shit and had way too many flaws.

But this time around, there's actually no way NRG doesn't end up with a 90% winrate next year

The idea of role issues is literally inconceivable with this roster, they have a proven world class IGL and IMO the 4 best players at their role in NA + a top 8 duelist ITW

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AstroGalaxy
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everyone bookmark this post then come back to it a year later.

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Kiko
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d0rke will be exposed just like tardiis if he joins NRG. trust me u dont want that

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AstroGalaxy
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Kiko [#3]

d0rke will be exposed just like tardiis if he joins NRG. trust me u dont want that

W

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catNmouse
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that’s like saying fnatic is winning everything next year

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Nachtel
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Kiko [#3]

d0rke will be exposed just like tardiis if he joins NRG. trust me u dont want that

fardiis raze made me want to drown myself

Derke has proven to be able to consistently play 3 meta duelists for the last 3 years

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redddiiiiii
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Fnatic is shitty, they are the european kru

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Nachtel
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redddiiiiii [#7]

Fnatic is shitty, they are the european kru

Fnatic is bad, NRG will beat them next year

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JohannesGlue
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redddiiiiii [#7]

Fnatic is shitty, they are the european kru

smartest sen fan

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catNmouse
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Nachtel [#8]

Fnatic is bad, NRG will beat them next year

If alfa stops tilting, fnatic has a better chance against nrg than they do vs fnatic

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abhaudk
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You guys say the same shit every year. just stop yapping. everybody knows that heretics will win everything

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MerkFreeks
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i'd hope so

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catNmouse
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abhaudk [#11]

You guys say the same shit every year. just stop yapping. everybody knows that heretics will win everything

don’t jinx it man

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koromast
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catNmouse [#5]

that’s like saying fnatic is winning everything next year

they have boaster fns clears him now that he´ll have an as stacked team

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charleser
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abhaudk [#11]

You guys say the same shit every year. just stop yapping. everybody knows that heretics will win everything

no one remembers second place

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catNmouse
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koromast [#14]

they have boaster fns clears him now that he´ll have an as stacked team

fns is just as bad mechanically lmao he doesn’t clear boaster

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abhaudk
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charleser [#15]

no one remembers second place

dsg will shit on on Sin Prisa Gaming

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Botfragger9000
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catNmouse [#16]

fns is just as bad mechanically lmao he doesn’t clear boaster

fns is not as bad as boaster, both rly bad tho

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rtyu
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Nachtel [#6]

fardiis raze made me want to drown myself

Derke has proven to be able to consistently play 3 meta duelists for the last 3 years

blame fns for putting him on raze

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catNmouse
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Botfragger9000 [#18]

fns is not as bad as boaster, both rly bad tho

fns has cost optic games just as much as boaster cost fnatic games

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koromast
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catNmouse [#16]

fns is just as bad mechanically lmao he doesn’t clear boaster

but i dont mean it mechanically, i mean micro-macro wise, i´ve never seen boaster outsmart tier 1 igls on the samewayfns has shitted on starxo koldamenta saadhak and others

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Nachtel
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rtyu [#19]

blame fns for putting him on raze

Duelists dont get special treatment if they arent able to play more than 1 agent

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Nachtel [#22]

Duelists dont get special treatment if they arent able to play more than 1 agent

wdym dont get special treatment lol they literally victor there the whole time who did the exact same thing with yay when he couldnt play raze,demon1 and jawgemo did that,tenz and sick did that,zyppan and ardiis did it,but for some reason fns decided its a good idea to put ardiis on raze when they never did that with yay

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Nachtel
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abhaudk [#11]

You guys say the same shit every year. just stop yapping. everybody knows that heretics will win everything

For sure dude, they'll choke at least 2 more grand finals

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ianceae
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how strong is the self-conviction of NRG fans

#26
Nachtel
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rtyu [#23]

wdym dont get special treatment lol they literally victor there the whole time who did the exact same thing with yay when he couldnt play raze,demon1 and jawgemo did that,tenz and sick did that,zyppan and ardiis did it,but for some reason fns decided its a good idea to put ardiis on raze when they never did that with yay

Yay and Victor worked because Yay filled sentinel while Victor played Raze.

Tenz sick worked because Jett was broken back then and 2021 valorant was a joke macro-wise + you could play double duelist back then and get away with it. TenZ can't even play Jett well at a professional level nowadays anymore

Demon1 and Jawgemo worked because omen wasn't meta yet, and Demon1 could be put on Brim and Astra while Jawgemo played Raze. He's dog on Omen

Ardiis played like shit while on KJ and sage on maps where Victor was on raze

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Nachtel
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ianceae [#25]

how strong is the self-conviction of NRG fans

Perfectly strong this year. Last year I have no idea why everyone was brushing off the issues with that roster at its inception.

But with this roster, there's literally no issues--it's perfection

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BTM_Wipr
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building a superteam again, this time with a good IGL (and assuming a better coach )
let's see if this works

Fns
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Demon1
Verno
Derke

who is main duelist ? Derke for sure cause he can't flex and even his pool of duelist agent is limited (his Yoru is not VCT ready for example)
Will demon1 accept ? I mean he knows astra, Brim ? Verno is he smoker or iniator again ?
Ethan will bring coffee to players I guess ?

anyway good luck to them, EMEA is winning 2025 champs anyway

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Nachtel
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BTM_Wipr [#28]

building a superteam again, this time with a good IGL (and assuming a better coach )
let's see if this works

Fns
S0m
Demon1
Verno
Derke

who is main duelist ? Derke for sure cause he can't flex and even his pool of duelist agent is limited (his Yoru is not VCT ready for example)
Will demon1 accept ? I mean he knows astra, Brim ? Verno is he smoker or iniator again ?
Ethan will bring coffee to players I guess ?

anyway good luck to them, EMEA is winning 2025 champs anyway

w copypasta

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rtyu
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Nachtel [#26]

Yay and Victor worked because Yay filled sentinel while Victor played Raze.

Tenz sick worked because Jett was broken back then and 2021 valorant was a joke macro-wise + you could play double duelist back then and get away with it. TenZ can't even play Jett well at a professional level nowadays anymore

Demon1 and Jawgemo worked because omen wasn't meta yet, and Demon1 could be put on Brim and Astra while Jawgemo played Raze. He's dog on Omen

Ardiis played like shit while on KJ and sage on maps where Victor was on raze

bro what is this narrative that ardiis was shit on nrg,please stop re writing history no he wasn't shit on kj or sage what the fuck are u saying

americas league regular season:
1.08 rating on sage
1.03 rating on kj (he was struggling at the start as was nrg but got better)

americas league playoffs:
1.45 rating on kj (even tho it was only like 2 maps)
1.06 rating on sage (low rounds too but they put him on jett mostly for playoffs)

tokyo:
1.14 on kj
0.46 on sage (literally cause of that 1 bind against fnatic)

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Nachtel
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rtyu [#30]

bro what is this narrative that ardiis was shit on nrg,please stop re writing history no he wasn't shit on kj or sage what the fuck are u saying

americas league regular season:
1.08 rating on sage
1.03 rating on kj (he was struggling at the start as was nrg but got better)

americas league playoffs:
1.45 rating on kj (even tho it was only like 2 maps)
1.06 rating on sage (low rounds too but they put him on jett mostly for playoffs)

tokyo:
1.14 on kj
0.46 on sage (literally cause of that 1 bind against fnatic)

the man could not hit awp shots. He got better by the end, but he was never all that good.

Those stats don't accurately reflect how many times he fumbled

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ianceae
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BTM_Wipr [#28]

building a superteam again, this time with a good IGL (and assuming a better coach )
let's see if this works

Fns
S0m
Demon1
Verno
Derke

who is main duelist ? Derke for sure cause he can't flex and even his pool of duelist agent is limited (his Yoru is not VCT ready for example)
Will demon1 accept ? I mean he knows astra, Brim ? Verno is he smoker or iniator again ?
Ethan will bring coffee to players I guess ?

anyway good luck to them, EMEA is winning 2025 champs anyway

ethan or s0m?

#33
Tagoz
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derke is good dont get me wrong but he's not a factor that would make a team win everything

also
theyre not gonna sign him

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BTM_Wipr
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ianceae [#32]

ethan or s0m?

fns and s0m or nada, this much was clear from fns

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