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barca the one time

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#1
kalayav_n

JUST LOCK IN FOR 1 GAMe JUS TONE GAME ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST WIN ONE GAME SO DSYRE QUALIFY YOU BABOONS

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Denjisideals
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Big sigma

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brahianv
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dsyre is not doing shit they are out. this game does not matter

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gold2peak
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lucas rojo is not going to break his 10000000000 games losing streak in ascension for a meaningless game

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Targu1n
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Ye think now that we know the rules from ascension Dsy is already out
max they can get is 2-2 maps vs the 3 tied teams, while apeks is already at 3-2, but not 100% sure

https://twitter.com/LiquipediaVAL/status/1831389079042220150

tweet with rulebook:
https://twitter.com/GinTomek/status/1831355455433568305
or direct link:
https://www.emea-competitiveops.com/

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cloudberry
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Targu1n [#5]

Ye think now that we know the rules from ascension Dsy is already out
max they can get is 2-2 maps vs the 3 tied teams, while apeks is already at 3-2, but not 100% sure

https://twitter.com/LiquipediaVAL/status/1831389079042220150

tweet with rulebook:
https://twitter.com/GinTomek/status/1831355455433568305
or direct link:
https://www.emea-competitiveops.com/

If Apeks loses 0-2 DSYRE moves on

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Targu1n
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cloudberry [#6]

If Apeks loses 0-2 DSYRE moves on

no the rules only compare maps between the 3 tied teams from my understanding

so apeks are already locked at 3-2 maps (so +1)
and most dsy can get is 2-2 (so +0)

the scenarios we made yesterday were under the assumption that ascension uses the normal vct emea rulebook, but it has its own that just wasnt public for us

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kalayav_n
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Targu1n [#7]

no the rules only compare maps between the 3 tied teams from my understanding

so apeks are already locked at 3-2 maps (so +1)
and most dsy can get is 2-2 (so +0)

the scenarios we made yesterday were under the assumption that ascension uses the normal vct emea rulebook, but it has its own that just wasnt public for us

if apeks gets 2-0ed they still qual over DSYRE?

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Targu1n
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kalayav_n [#8]

if apeks gets 2-0ed they still qual over DSYRE?

ye, sadly
knocks out mouz too so makes this whole last day a lot less exciting that the main vct emea rulebook would have made it

this is just a seeding game for Apks now (though with this map loss it doesnt matter anymore since theyre 2nd now) <- edit: wrong its h2h for that, so theyre still playing to win for 1st seed

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kalayav_n
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Targu1n [#9]

ye, sadly
knocks out mouz too so makes this whole last day a lot less exciting that the main vct emea rulebook would have made it

this is just a seeding game for Apks now (though with this map loss it doesnt matter anymore since theyre 2nd now) <- edit: wrong its h2h for that, so theyre still playing to win for 1st seed

dang 2025 is our year anyway

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Kirya
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Targu1n [#7]

no the rules only compare maps between the 3 tied teams from my understanding

so apeks are already locked at 3-2 maps (so +1)
and most dsy can get is 2-2 (so +0)

the scenarios we made yesterday were under the assumption that ascension uses the normal vct emea rulebook, but it has its own that just wasnt public for us

wait what? apeks is currently at 5-3 and dsy is at 5-5, so if barsa wins 2-0 wont it come down to round diff?
im confused

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Mortadelo
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Kirya [#11]

wait what? apeks is currently at 5-3 and dsy is at 5-5, so if barsa wins 2-0 wont it come down to round diff?
im confused

It’s H2H map diff, not just map diff. Whatever happens vs Barça doesn’t not count

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Targu1n
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Kirya [#11]

wait what? apeks is currently at 5-3 and dsy is at 5-5, so if barsa wins 2-0 wont it come down to round diff?
im confused

it only compares the 3 teams that in the tie

Apk 1-2 GN
Apk 2-0 Dsy
GN 0-2 Dsy

So its
Apk +1
Dsy +0
GN -1

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Kirya
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Mortadelo [#12]

It’s H2H map diff, not just map diff. Whatever happens vs Barça doesn’t not count

ohh

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cloudberry
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Targu1n [#7]

no the rules only compare maps between the 3 tied teams from my understanding

so apeks are already locked at 3-2 maps (so +1)
and most dsy can get is 2-2 (so +0)

the scenarios we made yesterday were under the assumption that ascension uses the normal vct emea rulebook, but it has its own that just wasnt public for us

Apeks is 5/3 in maps. DSYRE is 5/5. If Apeks gets 2-0'd then they're both at 5-5. They currently have the same round differential which means if Apeks loses 2-0 they'll have a worse one, which means DSYRE would move on

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tuxe
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kalayav_n [#10]

dang 2025 is our year anyway

wackie is getting picked up anyway bro

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Targu1n
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cloudberry [#15]

Apeks is 5/3 in maps. DSYRE is 5/5. If Apeks gets 2-0'd then they're both at 5-5. They currently have the same round differential which means if Apeks loses 2-0 they'll have a worse one, which means DSYRE would move on

ye per vct emea rulebook they would
not via ascension rulebook since thats a seperate one
#12 or #13

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kalayav_n
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tuxe [#16]

wackie is getting picked up anyway bro

TL 🔜

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cloudberry
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Targu1n [#17]

ye per vct emea rulebook they would
not via ascension rulebook since thats a seperate one
#12 or #13

Oh, that applies to Ascension, too?

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Mortadelo [#12]

It’s H2H map diff, not just map diff. Whatever happens vs Barça doesn’t not count

It's a three way tie though if apk lose so technically it should be like map diff and then round diff.. Bodork tweeted that if dsyre dominates and apk, gonext lose 0-2, dsyre qualifies

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Targu1n
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cloudberry [#19]

Oh, that applies to Ascension, too?

only to ascension
vct uses a normal map diff instead h2h between tied teams

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cloudberry
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Targu1n [#21]

only to ascension
vct uses a normal map diff instead h2h between tied teams

Ok ty

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Realm3098 [#20]

It's a three way tie though if apk lose so technically it should be like map diff and then round diff.. Bodork tweeted that if dsyre dominates and apk, gonext lose 0-2, dsyre qualifies

nah bodorks tweet was still using the vct emea rulebook since the ascension one was only made public a couple hours before todays games (we all assumed there wasnt a separate rulebook but alas)

Not even coaches (or apparently admins) were informed properly about the difference in tiebreakers so a lot of disappointed peeps today x.x

h2h map diff means only the maps played between the tied teams matter for the map diff (#13 for "visuals")

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catNmouse
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they’re gonna lose to apeks now lmao

#25
kalayav_n
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catNmouse [#24]

they’re gonna lose to apeks now lmao

sigh barkalona cant even win 1 game KEKW these guys need to be in t4

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