https://x.com/1mongolz/status/1828344113722245144?t=sz9Mox6cnamF2CY-uGSFKw&s=19
Mongolia is now officially part of Southeast Asia and The MongolZ will make their international debut in SEA Split 3 in early October alongside Trinity
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Huge W, Mongolia has suffer the region weirdness twice and were given happy ending twice
in PUBG Mobile: They forced to be part of "Wildcard region" or regions of all countries thats being excluded from the ecosystem, then went on to almost beat China and convinced Tencent to invite them to South Asia, 3 years after that MN is PUBGM World Champions and is now permanently unified with South Asia as Central+South Asia
now in VALORANT they are permanent resident of SEA. That will be fun
hzlnuts [#9]nice less than 1 moth after gettin merged another new region getting added to SEA i wouldnt be surprised if russian team would be added next year. since participant aren't only from SEA no more they should rename it to Refugee league or something idk. also riot you better increase their slot.
Wait till you see VCJ, the true refugee league 😂😂
Mortadelo [#10]I have several concerns here. Is the ping to SEA much worse than it is to HK??
And why SEA? I understand the league is already deluded so there would be less criticism but isn’t SEA already tight on spots after the merge?
Mongols plays in SEA maybe 90 ping i can't remember
Mortadelo [#10]I have several concerns here. Is the ping to SEA much worse than it is to HK??
And why SEA? I understand the league is already deluded so there would be less criticism but isn’t SEA already tight on spots after the merge?
i believe you can still play on hk servers if both teams come to an agreement?
Mortadelo [#10]I have several concerns here. Is the ping to SEA much worse than it is to HK??
And why SEA? I understand the league is already deluded so there would be less criticism but isn’t SEA already tight on spots after the merge?
Where else would you put Mongolia in?
cyk [#6]so they will be invited to the challenger league, without any play in qualifier? sounds good
yeah that's kinda strange but we take those
arin2016 [#18]Hell yeah fuck off. Bro thought they could finesse Riot and sneak into VCJ
Bro should learn not to bait at times like these, but I understand the sentiment 😂
arin2016 [#20]You should be celebrating.
Who says I'm not 😂, but Scarz exists and knowing that Mongolians are no longer considered import according to VCJ I'm still worried
IonlywatchvcjXD [#23]Who says I'm not 😂, but Scarz exists and knowing that Mongolians are no longer considered import according to VCJ I'm still worried
Everyone hates that refugee org anyway. There won't be any other org like Fartz because everyone saw how badly project sz failed. And unless they know how to comm in Japanese, they won't be imported.
arin2016 [#26]Everyone hates that refugee org anyway. There won't be any other org like Fartz because everyone saw how badly project sz failed. And unless they know how to comm in Japanese, they won't be imported.
Lol they better revamp the whole roster now, but I guess doing that means you're effectively withdrawing from VCJ, that means they're not going anywhere, but October is literally their last chance or else everyone is fired from Fartz 😂
arin2016 [#18]Hell yeah fuck off. Bro thought they could finesse Riot and sneak into VCJ
chill
no one wants to play in your weak ass region dog
Anzaldinho [#29]chill
no one wants to play in your weak ass region dog
Sorry but koreans , Russians, And everyone on scarz (except tenzou) disagree.
Anzaldinho [#15]Where else would you put Mongolia in?
Hk, way more spots there
Also Ionlywatchvcj might kill me but Jp or Kr wouldn’t have been that bad either from a sporting perspective, logistically might not make much sense
Mortadelo [#31]Hk, way more spots there
Also Ionlywatchvcj might kill me but Jp or Kr wouldn’t have been that bad either from a sporting perspective, logistically might not make much sense
hk is part of SEA?
IonlywatchvcjXD [#30]Sorry but koreans , Russians, And everyone on scarz (except tenzou) disagree.
russians have no other choice though?
far east russia has literally nowhere else but japan to play in since koreans are more xenophobic than you peeps
Anzaldinho [#33]russians have no other choice though?
far east russia has literally nowhere else but japan to play in since koreans are more xenophobic than you peeps
Huh? I'm pretty sure xenophobia is the least likely reason when you can see even koreans themselves play in japan.
Where do you want to play? Is it playing in korea where you are paid peanuts or follow korean players playing in japan with high wages and possibly gain some fame like something or meteor does.
And btw I'm not japanese.why do you think I'm using international flag 😂😂, but I'm flattered tho one day I'll be living there when I'm ready. 😊
Mortadelo [#10]I have several concerns here. Is the ping to SEA much worse than it is to HK??
And why SEA? I understand the league is already deluded so there would be less criticism but isn’t SEA already tight on spots after the merge?
Mongolz player said they have 60-65ms to HK, 65-70 ms to Tokyo
Anzaldinho [#32]hk is part of SEA?
Oh shit forgot they were included in the merger. Jp then, purely because of the spot thing, SEA is too tight
Mortadelo [#36]Oh shit forgot they were included in the merger. Jp then, purely because of the spot thing, SEA is too tight
Respectfully , hell no, that would be a slap in the face towards tier 2 orgs who go out of their way to build academy teams( 7 orgs with 9 current rosters to be exact), there are too many imports in the regions and I hate to see it if they add more.
Anzaldinho [#29]chill
no one wants to play in your weak ass region dog
Clearly they did, and very badly so that they had to come to VLR to beg lmfaoooo
IonlywatchvcjXD [#38]Respectfully , hell no, that would be a slap in the face towards tier 2 orgs who go out of their way to build academy teams( 7 orgs with 9 current rosters to be exact), there are too many imports in the regions and I hate to see it if they add more.
You would hate it more if your country had literally 1 spot in VCL instead of 8 and on top of that they gave it to Mongolia.
They qualified in Jp, Ik you would hate it but as a neutral outsider it really makes way more sense
Mortadelo [#40]You would hate it more if your country had literally 1 spot in VCL instead of 8 and on top of that they gave it to Mongolia.
They qualified in Jp, Ik you would hate it but as a neutral outsider it really makes way more sense
What do you mean by 1 spot instead of eight? There are 2 Mongolian teams in SEA VCL.
arin2016 [#39]Clearly they did, and very badly so that they had to come to VLR to beg lmfaoooo
name one other mongolian team than mongolz that was playing in japan
IonlywatchvcjXD [#34]Huh? I'm pretty sure xenophobia is the least likely reason when you can see even koreans themselves play in japan.
Where do you want to play? Is it playing in korea where you are paid peanuts or follow korean players playing in japan with high wages and possibly gain some fame like something or meteor does.
And btw I'm not japanese.why do you think I'm using international flag 😂😂, but I'm flattered tho one day I'll be living there when I'm ready. 😊
no i didn't say that
what would happen if mongolians play in korea? countless death threats basically
Anzaldinho [#42]name one other mongolian team than mongolz that was playing in japan
This one? Why does it even matter? I do remember that one post of that one guy asking VLR to do something about how Riot won't let them play in VCJ
IonlywatchvcjXD [#41]What do you mean by 1 spot instead of eight? There are 2 Mongolian teams in SEA VCL.
I mean Jp gets 8 spots in their league, if you had the 2 Mongolian teams you would still have 6
Meanwhile in SEA countries like Indo, Philippines, Thailand etc already have only 1 or 2 spots and they have to accommodate Mongolia on top of that. While realistically, Mongolia does not have any more reason to play there than they do in Jp
Mortadelo [#46]I mean Jp gets 8 spots in their league, if you had the 2 Mongolian teams you would still have 6
Meanwhile in SEA countries like Indo, Philippines, Thailand etc already have only 1 or 2 spots and they have to accommodate Mongolia on top of that. While realistically, Mongolia does not have any more reason to play there than they do in Jp
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2024/Japan/Split_3
Jp got 16 spots and separate region by themselves because we generate the most views and by a very huge margin. I'm not letting vcj tank the views just for brownie points.
Bro I'm tired of saying "vcj this vcj that ", ill just say "we" even though I'm not really part of them.
We invested the most out of all regions especially here in pacific.
We had the most views who would watch vcj even though it's just a Tier2.
We had the pain of seeing teams like scarz and orgs importing players and disregarding local talents.
We have been the most diverse region out of everyone in pacific ( koreans , Russians, pinoys, indonesian , aussie)
This region have been disrespected way more even though we're basically keeping other subregions alive.
And now we have to house Mongolians here too?? Buddy, that's just bad business. I don't wanna see the views actually tank.
eva_3 [#47]Looks like no one wants Mongolian team in Vcl but where else do we compete?
Maybe they should just combine Japan Korea + Mongolia and make it East Asia challengers like SEA.
I'm not letting jp's viewership drop. Merging with others means less japanese team and less japanese teams means less viewership. I mean unless we're contend at wasting jp's market potential than maybe we should merge 😂
Anzaldinho [#44]no i didn't say that
what would happen if mongolians play in korea? countless death threats basically
what makes you say that?
arin2016 [#45]This one? Why does it even matter? I do remember that one post of that one guy asking VLR to do something about how Riot won't let them play in VCJ
can't believe I got rickrolled in fucking 2024, you won the argument
IonlywatchvcjXD [#48]https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2024/Japan/Split_3
Jp got 16 spots and separate region by themselves because we generate the most views and by a very huge margin. I'm not letting vcj tank the views just for brownie points.
Bro I'm tired of saying "vcj this vcj that ", ill just say "we" even though I'm not really part of them.
We invested the most out of all regions especially here in pacific.
We had the most views who would watch vcj even though it's just a Tier2.
We had the pain of seeing teams like scarz and orgs importing players and disregarding local talents.
We have been the most diverse region out of everyone in pacific ( koreans , Russians, pinoys, indonesian , aussie)
This region have been disrespected way more even though we're basically keeping other subregions alive.
And now we have to house Mongolians here too?? Buddy, that's just bad business. I don't wanna see the views actually tank.
They doubled the spots for split 2? Really? Or am I understanding it wrong. If so that's crazy ngl but reaffirms me on what I'm saying 10x more
Say we bro, I've never understood why it's not done more often in esports. At least in spanish we always say we referring to our team
Do you really think it would hurt the viewership? Even if it was only to hate watch? Because I look at it through the prism of my league and I think the exact opposite. Last year if there was a Zeta vs Five I wanted to watch the game but I didn't care much who won which makes it sort of boring, in the other hand if they played SAW or DSYRE I would be much more interested in the game. Maybe it's just me tho
Look it's not ideal, opening back the CIS league is, but since that's not happening I really think is not that bad at all. That being said the conversation is pointless because they already decided xD
Mortadelo [#53]They doubled the spots for split 2? Really? Or am I understanding it wrong. If so that's crazy ngl but reaffirms me on what I'm saying 10x more
Say we bro, I've never understood why it's not done more often in esports. At least in spanish we always say we referring to our team
Do you really think it would hurt the viewership? Even if it was only to hate watch? Because I look at it through the prism of my league and I think the exact opposite. Last year if there was a Zeta vs Five I wanted to watch the game but I didn't care much who won which makes it sort of boring, in the other hand if they played SAW or DSYRE I would be much more interested in the game. Maybe it's just me tho
Look it's not ideal, opening back the CIS league is, but since that's not happening I really think is not that bad at all. That being said the conversation is pointless because they already decided xD
Wait sp3 or sp2 now I'm confused😂.
Nah it's just I just don't want at some point people will think that I think I am part of them.
I think people will deadass watch igzist vs varrel no matter how boring the game will look, but that's because they're kinda well known org, ik people know who mongolz is but ( I think) they are just another random ass org from jp's perspective. The views will tank. And to add its hard to figure out whether scarz's viewership really tanked unless someone is subscribed to Escharts 😂
But thank God the issue is over tho, but for real I've been voicing my concerns over mongolz in japan for weeks now and few actually gave a shit, and now everyone and their mom loses their shit, sometimes I really do think japan region is so hated here😂
IonlywatchvcjXD [#49]I'm not letting jp's viewership drop. Merging with others means less japanese team and less japanese teams means less viewership. I mean unless we're contend at wasting jp's market potential than maybe we should merge 😂
u mean not letting jp get exposed ? cuz ur league is ass lmao, no wonder ur pacific team suck they put priority on country/nationality first over Talent/skill player lol
Dattadri_sai [#55]u mean not letting jp get exposed ? cuz ur league is ass lmao, no wonder ur pacific team suck they put priority on country/nationality first over Talent/skill player lol
What priority are you talking about?
Did you forget that Japan literally imports the most out of everyone? I guess Akame Gangpin Seoldam Joxjo etc must be Japanese huh?
On the contrary Japan literally just imports and fucking forgets about talent development.
IonlywatchvcjXD [#49]I'm not letting jp's viewership drop. Merging with others means less japanese team and less japanese teams means less viewership. I mean unless we're contend at wasting jp's market potential than maybe we should merge 😂
In league, Riot is merging CBLOL with LCS. They are nuking popular scene in Brazil with big viewership to save LCS.
From this we can say they don't hesitate to merge popular league with less popular one. In 2,3 years when most of the orgs are gone in Japan tier 2 they are probably merging it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/LbN8YeNOAW
It's really hard to root for Japanese scene with guys like you attacking everyone. If your goal is to make everyone dislike, effectively
killing Japanese scene then you are doing your job perfectly.
eva_3 [#57]In league, Riot is merging CBLOL with LCS. They are nuking popular scene in Brazil with big viewership to save LCS.
From this we can say they don't hesitate to merge popular league with less popular one. In 2,3 years when most of the orgs are gone in Japan tier 2 they are probably merging it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/LbN8YeNOAW
It's really hard to root for Japanese scene with guys like you attacking everyone. If your goal is to make everyone dislike, effectively
killing Japanese scene then you are doing your job perfectly.
Few people actually roots for japan bro, if there is a choice I'm pretty sure majority here would prefer japan just doesn't have a region at all. Lets not pretend that people here doesn't hate vcj. On the contrary, people here have been constantly attacking vcj hoping the scene would just die
I want the scene to progress but there are too many obstacles for this scene to actually grow. Valorant in japan is easily in it's popular phase just like apex back then, but just like apex eventually things will slow down, and I'm not going to let this region waste their potential away just like that. I can't afford to see this region turns to another LJL, once we reached the LJL stage there's no going back anymore.
People, especially pacific fans won't ever understand my grievances and never will because their subregion never had this many imports anyway.
IonlywatchvcjXD [#58]Few people actually roots for japan bro, if there is a choice I'm pretty sure majority here would prefer japan just doesn't have a region at all. Lets not pretend that people here doesn't hate vcj. On the contrary, people here have been constantly attacking vcj hoping the scene would just die
I want the scene to progress but there are too many obstacles for this scene to actually grow. Valorant in japan is easily in it's popular phase just like apex back then, but just like apex eventually things will slow down, and I'm not going to let this region waste their potential away just like that. I can't afford to see this region turns to another LJL, once we reached the LJL stage there's no going back anymore.
People, especially pacific fans won't ever understand my grievances and never will because their subregion never had this many imports anyway.
what potential
cyk [#35]Mongolz player said they have 60-65ms to HK, 65-70 ms to Tokyo
there's different type of wifi providers so if they choose right one they can have 60 ping at Singapore server i thought
arin2016 [#45]This one? Why does it even matter? I do remember that one post of that one guy asking VLR to do something about how Riot won't let them play in VCJ
youre a fatass american bro stop acting like youre japanese
eva_3 [#57]In league, Riot is merging CBLOL with LCS. They are nuking popular scene in Brazil with big viewership to save LCS.
From this we can say they don't hesitate to merge popular league with less popular one. In 2,3 years when most of the orgs are gone in Japan tier 2 they are probably merging it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/LbN8YeNOAW
It's really hard to root for Japanese scene with guys like you attacking everyone. If your goal is to make everyone dislike, effectively
killing Japanese scene then you are doing your job perfectly.
No one cares about Botzil views. League is owned by Korea and China. There is no need to focus on what happens on Botzil.
Me when the "big viewership" is only 200k lmfao. Riot doesn't need those small numbers. Either Botzil is happy with what they got, or they pull out from LoL.
Meanwhile Japan pulls 200k+ viewers on tier 2 games. 3 year old eSport scene btw. Riot knows how big the market is in Japan, everyone is willing to buy merch and spend. So they don't need your opinion on whether to merge the scene or not. I don't know if you're saying this out of spite, but you shouldn't worry about Japan. I will guarantee you a 100% that what you're saying will never happen. Don't cry anymore.
Botroretro [#61]youre a fatass american bro stop acting like youre japanese
Loser had his feelings hurt so he needs to cope and make up storylines. "you are rude and not wholesome kawaii! you have to be american" how pathetic.
Mortadelo [#10]I have several concerns here. Is the ping to SEA much worse than it is to HK??
And why SEA? I understand the league is already deluded so there would be less criticism but isn’t SEA already tight on spots after the merge?
it’s 90-110 in sea while in hk/taiwan and japan it’s around 60
arin2016 [#65]Loser had his feelings hurt so he needs to cope and make up storylines. "you are rude and not wholesome kawaii! you have to be american" how pathetic.
everyone knows you’re not japanese lil bro
get that flag off you fatty weeb
Botroretro [#68]everyone knows you’re not japanese lil bro
get that flag off you fatty weeb
Keep crying inferior 🗿🤚
BTM_Wipr [#74]ping wise they are fucked no ? it's the same shit as them playing in Turkey server or whatever.
closest region is china and they should compete there until Russia is reintegrated and maybe they can join them.
60 ping to hong kong servers is the lowest we have and we are more than got used to it (on multiple games)
90 ping to singapore servers is kinda bummy but doable and workable to play with
turkey on the other hand, doesn't even show us on the client because when we first create our account it's automatically set to apac
and lowest you can get to turkey is 140ms
Anzaldinho [#75]60 ping to hong kong servers is the lowest we have and we are more than got used to it (on multiple games)
90 ping to singapore servers is kinda bummy but doable and workable to play with
turkey on the other hand, doesn't even show us on the client because when we first create our account it's automatically set to apac
and lowest you can get to turkey is 140ms
bro 90 is not meant for pro, you can't compete with such ping.
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