Mongolia eligible to compete in SEA region

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Anzaldinho

https://x.com/1mongolz/status/1828344113722245144?t=sz9Mox6cnamF2CY-uGSFKw&s=19
Mongolia is now officially part of Southeast Asia and The MongolZ will make their international debut in SEA Split 3 in early October alongside Trinity
W?

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FINAL_BOSS

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Counter strike nation

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Anzaldinho

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pubg mobile nation too i guess

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W

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Huge W, Mongolia has suffer the region weirdness twice and were given happy ending twice

in PUBG Mobile: They forced to be part of "Wildcard region" or regions of all countries thats being excluded from the ecosystem, then went on to almost beat China and convinced Tencent to invite them to South Asia, 3 years after that MN is PUBGM World Champions and is now permanently unified with South Asia as Central+South Asia

now in VALORANT they are permanent resident of SEA. That will be fun

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so they will be invited to the challenger league, without any play in qualifier? sounds good

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hesketh2

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maybe they get it as a Premier spot first, then qualifier can happen from the 2024 split 1 maybe?

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Anzaldinho

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yeah that's kinda strange but we take those

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Sk00d

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I mean they won premier

in JP but still did

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won it 2 times

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UnreignedX

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im always open to see banger gameplay, huge dubs

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hzlnuts

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nice less than 1 moth after gettin merged another new region getting added to SEA i wouldnt be surprised if russian team would be added next year. since participant aren't only from SEA no more they should rename it to Refugee league or something idk. also riot you better increase their slot.

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Wait till you see VCJ, the true refugee league 😂😂

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arin2016

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You should be celebrating.

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Who says I'm not 😂, but Scarz exists and knowing that Mongolians are no longer considered import according to VCJ I'm still worried

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arin2016

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Everyone hates that refugee org anyway. There won't be any other org like Fartz because everyone saw how badly project sz failed. And unless they know how to comm in Japanese, they won't be imported.

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Lol they better revamp the whole roster now, but I guess doing that means you're effectively withdrawing from VCJ, that means they're not going anywhere, but October is literally their last chance or else everyone is fired from Fartz 😂

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I have several concerns here. Is the ping to SEA much worse than it is to HK??

And why SEA? I understand the league is already deluded so there would be less criticism but isn’t SEA already tight on spots after the merge?

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Mongols plays in SEA maybe 90 ping i can't remember

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Anzaldinho

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i believe you can still play on hk servers if both teams come to an agreement?

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Anzaldinho

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Where else would you put Mongolia in?

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Mortadelo

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Hk, way more spots there
Also Ionlywatchvcj might kill me but Jp or Kr wouldn’t have been that bad either from a sporting perspective, logistically might not make much sense

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Anzaldinho

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hk is part of SEA?

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Mortadelo

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Oh shit forgot they were included in the merger. Jp then, purely because of the spot thing, SEA is too tight

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Respectfully , hell no, that would be a slap in the face towards tier 2 orgs who go out of their way to build academy teams( 7 orgs with 9 current rosters to be exact), there are too many imports in the regions and I hate to see it if they add more.

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Mortadelo

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You would hate it more if your country had literally 1 spot in VCL instead of 8 and on top of that they gave it to Mongolia.

They qualified in Jp, Ik you would hate it but as a neutral outsider it really makes way more sense

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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What do you mean by 1 spot instead of eight? There are 2 Mongolian teams in SEA VCL.

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Mortadelo

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I mean Jp gets 8 spots in their league, if you had the 2 Mongolian teams you would still have 6

Meanwhile in SEA countries like Indo, Philippines, Thailand etc already have only 1 or 2 spots and they have to accommodate Mongolia on top of that. While realistically, Mongolia does not have any more reason to play there than they do in Jp

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2024/Japan/Split_3

Jp got 16 spots and separate region by themselves because we generate the most views and by a very huge margin. I'm not letting vcj tank the views just for brownie points.

Bro I'm tired of saying "vcj this vcj that ", ill just say "we" even though I'm not really part of them.

We invested the most out of all regions especially here in pacific.

We had the most views who would watch vcj even though it's just a Tier2.

We had the pain of seeing teams like scarz and orgs importing players and disregarding local talents.

We have been the most diverse region out of everyone in pacific ( koreans , Russians, pinoys, indonesian , aussie)

This region have been disrespected way more even though we're basically keeping other subregions alive.

And now we have to house Mongolians here too?? Buddy, that's just bad business. I don't wanna see the views actually tank.

continue thread →

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cyk

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Mongolz player said they have 60-65ms to HK, 65-70 ms to Tokyo

https://www.vlr.gg/390942/the-mongolz-situation-in-vcj

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Kezu164

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there's different type of wifi providers so if they choose right one they can have 60 ping at Singapore server i thought

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it’s 90-110 in sea while in hk/taiwan and japan it’s around 60

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youngbonk

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More team but still less support from Riot LOL

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arin2016

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Hell yeah fuck off. Bro thought they could finesse Riot and sneak into VCJ

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Bro should learn not to bait at times like these, but I understand the sentiment 😂

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chill
no one wants to play in your weak ass region dog

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Sorry but koreans , Russians, And everyone on scarz (except tenzou) disagree.

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Anzaldinho

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russians have no other choice though?
far east russia has literally nowhere else but japan to play in since koreans are more xenophobic than you peeps

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Huh? I'm pretty sure xenophobia is the least likely reason when you can see even koreans themselves play in japan.

Where do you want to play? Is it playing in korea where you are paid peanuts or follow korean players playing in japan with high wages and possibly gain some fame like something or meteor does.

And btw I'm not japanese.why do you think I'm using international flag 😂😂, but I'm flattered tho one day I'll be living there when I'm ready. 😊

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Anzaldinho

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no i didn't say that
what would happen if mongolians play in korea? countless death threats basically

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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what makes you say that?

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arin2016

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Clearly they did, and very badly so that they had to come to VLR to beg lmfaoooo

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name one other mongolian team than mongolz that was playing in japan

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arin2016

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This one? Why does it even matter? I do remember that one post of that one guy asking VLR to do something about how Riot won't let them play in VCJ

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Anzaldinho

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can't believe I got rickrolled in fucking 2024, you won the argument

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youre a fatass american bro stop acting like youre japanese

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arin2016

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Loser had his feelings hurt so he needs to cope and make up storylines. "you are rude and not wholesome kawaii! you have to be american" how pathetic.

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Botroretro

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everyone knows you’re not japanese lil bro
get that flag off you fatty weeb

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arin2016

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Keep crying inferior 🗿🤚

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🍔🍔🍔🍔

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VCT Pacific teams can now get Mongolian players without counting it as import (previously Turkey EMEA).

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luckypleb

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they should be integrated with the china VCL

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Anzaldinho

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why?

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or KR, JP

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koreans and japanese will rip mongolians' head off if that happens

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eva_3

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Looks like no one wants Mongolian team in Vcl but where else do we compete?
Maybe they should just combine Japan Korea + Mongolia and make it East Asia challengers like SEA.

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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I'm not letting jp's viewership drop. Merging with others means less japanese team and less japanese teams means less viewership. I mean unless we're contend at wasting jp's market potential than maybe we should merge 😂

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u mean not letting jp get exposed ? cuz ur league is ass lmao, no wonder ur pacific team suck they put priority on country/nationality first over Talent/skill player lol

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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What priority are you talking about?

Did you forget that Japan literally imports the most out of everyone? I guess Akame Gangpin Seoldam Joxjo etc must be Japanese huh?
On the contrary Japan literally just imports and fucking forgets about talent development.

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eva_3

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In league, Riot is merging CBLOL with LCS. They are nuking popular scene in Brazil with big viewership to save LCS.

From this we can say they don't hesitate to merge popular league with less popular one. In 2,3 years when most of the orgs are gone in Japan tier 2 they are probably merging it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/LbN8YeNOAW

It's really hard to root for Japanese scene with guys like you attacking everyone. If your goal is to make everyone dislike, effectively
killing Japanese scene then you are doing your job perfectly.

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Few people actually roots for japan bro, if there is a choice I'm pretty sure majority here would prefer japan just doesn't have a region at all. Lets not pretend that people here doesn't hate vcj. On the contrary, people here have been constantly attacking vcj hoping the scene would just die

I want the scene to progress but there are too many obstacles for this scene to actually grow. Valorant in japan is easily in it's popular phase just like apex back then, but just like apex eventually things will slow down, and I'm not going to let this region waste their potential away just like that. I can't afford to see this region turns to another LJL, once we reached the LJL stage there's no going back anymore.

People, especially pacific fans won't ever understand my grievances and never will because their subregion never had this many imports anyway.

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what potential

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arin2016

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No one cares about Botzil views. League is owned by Korea and China. There is no need to focus on what happens on Botzil.

Me when the "big viewership" is only 200k lmfao. Riot doesn't need those small numbers. Either Botzil is happy with what they got, or they pull out from LoL.

Meanwhile Japan pulls 200k+ viewers on tier 2 games. 3 year old eSport scene btw. Riot knows how big the market is in Japan, everyone is willing to buy merch and spend. So they don't need your opinion on whether to merge the scene or not. I don't know if you're saying this out of spite, but you shouldn't worry about Japan. I will guarantee you a 100% that what you're saying will never happen. Don't cry anymore.

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Seems like the sensible conclusion to a painfully long saga.
Hopefully we see other Mongolian teams qualify through premier SEA.

Anyway MVT stage 3 starting soon, so that will be fun.

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Ok sorry but, who?

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me

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"haiti"

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obvious fake flagging

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nihso

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Bombing out anyways.

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how you know?

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ping wise they are fucked no ? it's the same shit as them playing in Turkey server or whatever.

closest region is china and they should compete there until Russia is reintegrated and maybe they can join them.

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Anzaldinho

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60 ping to hong kong servers is the lowest we have and we are more than got used to it (on multiple games)
90 ping to singapore servers is kinda bummy but doable and workable to play with
turkey on the other hand, doesn't even show us on the client because when we first create our account it's automatically set to apac
and lowest you can get to turkey is 140ms

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bro 90 is not meant for pro, you can't compete with such ping.

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i do 😔