Sentinel is trash

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but seeing the data and analysis, I feel that sentinel are bad, except on heavy defense map like Ascent they are good nbecause they are strong enough to make some site almost impossible to take, but on other map, I think 1 duel, 2 ini, 2 smoke might be better.

In defense, Sentinels are literally useless if they don't hit the site
In attack, Sentinel can't use their utility to take site (And in this meta that usually what make you win the map or not, if you can take the site with less dead than opponent = win), they can only cover flank and lurk, but nothing in their ability help them to lurk (except Cyph cage). Sure they could use their ability to defend the side once it's taken, but that usually mean they can't really lurk. I'm not even sure flank cover is that strong, because opponent can still lurk and take you from behind, sure you will know that might happen, but they can still surprise you by going back, continue lurk, and usually find another way. What is fun, the the only map where they are no doubt you have to pick a Sentinel, are map where KJ have strong retake ult, but retake are only 1 or 2 round, does that justify her pick ? Yes because her concurrence in sentinel is so bad that she is the best idea, no because team tend to think about picking no sent when they have no choice.

I think, Vyze will CRUSH sentinels, because she is the only senitnel that have utility in atk, and setup deadly trap in defense, but she might also crush initiator flasher, this agent allow you to have a flasher that can replace Breach and Kayo and still cover flank allowing you to take a 2nd smoker that can lurk heavily, and this is what will be OP. Doble sentinel is REALLY OP, and you want a doble initiator to take site, she can allow that, her release might be the biggest Viper up ever (Even if I think other smoker might be the 2nd smoker)

Now let's see map per map, what may be the best composition on the 11 maps and see sentinel state :

Ascent : KJ mendatory, heavy defense favor map, kinda the sole exception
Haven : This is a weird situation, KJ get replaced by Cyph, sentinels migh be the right option, but the meta is so chaotic that it's really hard to guess
Pearl / Fracture : KJ maps because for her ult for retake are strong, but meta might have shifted, hard to say, more time pass and more 1-2-2 seems appealing, so is that map got the same evolution ? hard to say

Bind : Sentinel have already almost disapear, and we are already in 1-2-2
Icebox : Best team of the word may be FPX (Both SEN and TH banned Icebox specifically against them, and they where amazing on it in M2), they play in 1-1-3. KJ is picked to hold mid specifically, she make mid impossible to take and she is picked because of that and because she got a good ult for retake (And maybe because it's easy to take a site and when she do it she can easily lock it), FPX comp totally shut down her strength to hold mid.
Breeze : Best team (GEN) play in 1-2-2 (Astra instead of Cyph)
Abyss : The map is pretty new, DRX may be the best playing a classical comp, but EDG may have cracked the code in 1-2-2
Lotus : Best team is EDG, they play in 1-2-2 (And they even play without Viper)
Sunset : More team learn how to crush Cyph trap, less he will be picked, Viper nerf may have save his ass for the moment, but more team realise double smoke without Vip can be strong
Split : Cyph got only 50% PR, you can already play without sentinels, people usually pick a second duelist, but maybe the right option is to go 1-2-2

So yeah, maybe I'm fully wrong, but I kinda believe that even if Sentinels are busted in soloQ, in proplay it easier to antistrat their setup and counter them, making composition with double smoke and doble ini with mush more power. Vyse especially may also participate in the downfall of classical sentinels and allow even more composition with 1 duel, 1 flash (Vyze), 1 reveal, 2 smoke.

I really want you analysis on why Senintel weakness that i point are wrong.

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Holy yap
I am so confused whether we are talking about the team or the set of agents

OFC the title is putaclick, I'm not fullt sure about that it's just a thougt I have that this might be true

i think Vyse will definitely set them back miles ngl, they rely tooooooo much on Zekken to do shit that its honestly embarrassing sometimes

facts but I didn’t read

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i was watching subroza stream and it looks like the flash is so ez to break and dodge

More I think about it and more next time i'll do a video and post on VLR because you guys can't definitely read a tewt longer than a tweet T.T (I still love you guys I also have issues to do that)

7/8, good bait but i’ve seen it before

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but seeing the data and analysis, I feel that sentinel are bad, except on heavy defense map like Ascent they are good nbecause they are strong enough to make some site almost impossible to take, but on other map, I think 1 duel, 2 ini, 2 smoke might be better.

In defense, Sentinels are literally useless if they don't hit the site
In attack, Sentinel can't use their utility to take site (And in this meta that usually what make you win the map or not, if you can take the site with less dead than opponent = win), they can only cover flank and lurk, but nothing in their ability help them to lurk (except Cyph cage). Sure they could use their ability to defend the side once it's taken, but that usually mean they can't really lurk. I'm not even sure flank cover is that strong, because opponent can still lurk and take you from behind, sure you will know that might happen, but they can still surprise you by going back, continue lurk, and usually find another way. What is fun, the the only map where they are no doubt you have to pick a Sentinel, are map where KJ have strong retake ult, but retake are only 1 or 2 round, does that justify her pick ? Yes because her concurrence in sentinel is so bad that she is the best idea, no because team tend to think about picking no sent when they have no choice.

I think, Vyze will CRUSH sentinels, because she is the only senitnel that have utility in atk, and setup deadly trap in defense, but she might also crush initiator flasher, this agent allow you to have a flasher that can replace Breach and Kayo and still cover flank allowing you to take a 2nd smoker that can lurk heavily, and this is what will be OP. Doble sentinel is REALLY OP, and you want a doble initiator to take site, she can allow that, her release might be the biggest Viper up ever (Even if I think other smoker might be the 2nd smoker)

Now let's see map per map, what may be the best composition on the 11 maps and see sentinel state :

I'm saving this post to talk about it later, for now, I'm a bit busy!
honestly, it is fun to discuss with you :)

double controller would counter vyse since you cant really flash through smokes. thats why breach was barely picked during double controller era

i guess this is what saadhak was thinking too?

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