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Downfall of a Region

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#1
cioccolat

To the mfs that give a shit about the BR teams

I got a question

Do y'all think LOUD started collapsing because what?

Less having too much of an ego and fighting with every major piece that left the team (fRod, Aspas, Sacy, Pancada, etc)

Or

Saadhak feeling like he has already "proved" himself after Champions and stopped trying. Making his teammates frustrated by his lack of spark.

Cuz Aspas said he went to LEV cuz he wanted a team capable of winning tournaments
And Saadhak said his plans for Loud was a team consistently among top teams but not the winner of everything
Like, we know he was trying to run away from calling since 2023 as he basically cycled through all his teammates to try and make them callers

Idk what happened but these two are the sanest option

#2
AstroGalaxy
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Less didnt ruin loud, Goathak dropped cuckCK mid season and got another smokes player which fucked up their roles

Saadhak either wants to retire or is trolling with trying to make other people call

If loud kept aspas obv they wouldve done so much better but there was no duelist option besides QCK, I guess they couldve gotten that FUR duelist or havoc or whatever

#5
sideshowsbaldhead
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saadhak made it very clear he didn’t want to drop qck? that was the org’s decision

#9
AstroGalaxy
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Saadhak is loud he told me that in a dream

#20
cioccolat
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According to Quel and Noyn Less was supposed to leave for Pancada, but the Org chose to rescind Qck

Which skill wise makes sense
But not health wise
Less keeps beefing with staff and teammates

I would much rather he had gone to Sentinels with Sacy, Pancada stayed
And then Tuyz had become the teams Sentinel

#6
incidmoir
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dgzin clears the current furia duelist

#10
cioccolat
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So Saadhak ruined Louds winning conditions?
Cuz that's what it seems like, cuz even if Qck wasn't the best option fragging wise
The team didn't work because of a lack of team play, coordination, proper strats and calling

Like

In the Furia game Cauanzin IGLed, they got fucked

100T game Saadhak IGLs, they win comfortably

It's sounds so much like Saadhak wants out

#12
AstroGalaxy
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The org appr ruined the team bc they wanted to go cheap

and it does sound like saadhak wants out tbh

#18
cioccolat
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Yeah, that is true, LOUD is a cheapskate org

There have been several lines from Saadhak and Sacy talking about players they wanted to get but the ORG refused to pay either the transfer fee or the Visa process

#3
cioccolat
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I'm not saying the team performed, but like, every important piece of 2022 left
Sacy's Discipline
Aspas's Fragging
Pancada's Stability

You look at 2023 and 2024 LOUD and it's clear they started to lose that, 2024 LOUD barely played properly as a team, I still remember Platchat talking about how Loud wasn't a "flashy team" but worked great as a unit
(G2 kinda like them)

It's so frustrating

#13
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Asspass's fragging leaving is a problem, but you know they could've replaced his fragging with something atleast decent. Botck was different level of dogshit. I refuse to believe there wasnt any other decent duelist player than botck during the start of the season. Havoc? Askia? Heat? (talking about the start of the season).

#4
Denjisideals
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You just lost the bald buff. Get Sacy back and you will be good.

#19
cioccolat
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Unfortunately he is not coming back to LOUD

Maybe MiBr or Furia

LEV first

But not Loud

#7
BoF7ooM
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Losing to fucking FURIA with saadhaak on duelist lol. There are clearly some big problems. I dont think any of the reasons you posted is the case. Way too direct accusations of players like Less and Sadhaak. But yeah, asspass leaving reduced firepower for LOUD. They really couldve put tuyz on duelist and called it a day I still feel like.

#16
cioccolat
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That's the thing, yeah, Aspas leaving fucked them over fragging wise

But they still should've played like a team
Even if he wasn't fragging, the team play should be visible, it just wasn't there

G2 had an unremarkable duelist for a while, and even if he wasn't fragging G2 STILL PLAYS COHESIVELY, they get outaimed and outplayed
They don't lose because of dumb mistakes

#8
Average_NA_fan
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bra71l is a all aim no brain region u should thank saadhak plays for ur region

#11
cioccolat
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I do thank him, I just want him to be honest, cuz from all of the backstage shit happening it's clear he doesn't want to be our brains anymore

#15
Average_NA_fan
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bra71l will never qualify to an international event ever again

#14
Sage-Breach
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How can there be a downfall when the region isn’t even good to begin with?

#17
cioccolat
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Indonesian flag talking is ironic

#21
heavensentsaint
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pretty sure saadhak has talked about how he wants to teach the younger gen of players on how to igl and whatnot

less and cauanzin have igled a couple of times iirc, he's just lost his passion or the game has gotten stale for him competitively

tuyz is pretty good firepower wise just needs to become a full time duelist

#22
cioccolat
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Tuyz is a great Flex, he clearly plays for his team and does whatever is needed
He is a support player at heart, I love that dude.
I have no issues with him dueling, I just want the teams brain to be working

#23
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Brazil Valorant killed by franchising, Loud was making profit because they were paying BRL to player, gaining USD from Riot, the currency gap was a big factor of their success. Things completely changed since franchising.
When they merged to the America league and move to US, they are nothing special anymore, they are not rich enough so they can't bid the offer from the other NA team, so they lost Pancda, Sacy, and then Aspas. Maybe Less and Saadhak in the future.
Meanwhile, the loss of Furia, Loud, Mibr killed the tier 2 scene, not only the viewership but also the competitiveness. Brazil tier 2 team can not scrim against tier 1 made them not able to progress further. But NA tier 2 team has the chance to scrim the top teams.

And I would also give a honourable mention to Mibr, this shit org has 0 success gene, they don't know how to run a team and guide their player to success, they are wasting their talents, kill their confidence. The brazil version of Tyloo

#24
cioccolat
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its annoying how much hope Mibr keeps giving me only to throw it all away

please Palla/Artzin/Richzin/Mazin/Liazzi
please work

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