TH vs SEN Preds

Here are some of my thoughts and predictions for SEN vs TH.

Map Picks:
TH and SEN have a pretty similar map pool and I think this will be the closest game of the tournament. TH has been permabanning Ascent so I believe that will be their ban, and SEN will ban Bind. For some reason, SEN's icebox is really good during internationals and garbage anytime else. While their Bind is pretty average, I think its a super procedure/set play-heavy map for which they might not be prepared for in time.

I think TH is a rookie team that likes to gamble, and they have yet to see SEN's Abyss. I think they will take that risk and choose Abyss first. SEN will pick Lotus. TH will ban Haven afterwards and SEN will ban Icebox. Remaining map is Sunset. Both of these teams are at the top in terms of win percentage on Sunset, with SEN taking a slight edge at 75% Win Rate, compared to THs 71%.

I think Abyss is a complete toss up and anyone trying to predict would be braindead. We haven't seen any Abyss for SEN so we really don't know what to expect. But seeing as how prepared they were with Neon, I would bet money that the coaching staff and JohnQT have some good things cooked up. If I were to guess what comp they'd be playing, I'd say:

Sacy: Sova
Tenz: Gekko
Zellsis: Viper
Zekken: Raze,Jett,Neon (i could see him on any of these)
JohnQT: Cypher

SEN is comfortable with all of these agents, with the weakest link potentially being Tenz Gekko.

For map 2 Lotus, I think that SEN have a slight edge. They've looked really really strong on Lotus except for their map against EDG. I'm not really sure what happened in that game but the calling was very mid. There was no map presence whatsoever and JohnQT looked like he was hesitating a lot. Both teams are really good at retakes but the reason why I think SEN has the edge is because they're just getting off a win against an EMEA team. While I think TH is better than FNC, their playstyle is somewhat similar. TH has not played against an NA team since the lower finals of Shanghai. That's one edge. The other is that with Neon in SEN's map pool, it adds another layer of depth. It'll be hard to predict whether Zekken will be on Neon or Raze and SENs team comps changes pretty drastically based on that.

For map 3, I think in my opinion, SEN will either win 2-0 or lose 2-1. While both of these teams are fantastic on Sunset, SEN have looked shaky at times against different opponents. I think they've gotten away with it for the most part with EDG starting slow, Hiro and Boaster having off games on Sunset, and DRX looking somewhat nervous. TH has real shooters. Every person on that team has the ability to frag out unlike the ones I listed. I think if it gets to a map 3, it'd be difficult to get past BenjyFishy or Riens. SEN excels on their attack side, as does TH. But TH's defense is way better than SENs.

So to conclude, I think SEN either wins 2-0 or loses 2-1. Thank you for reading if you did.

Where the TLDR at?

Demon1_The_GOAT [#2]

Where the TLDR at?

After "So to conclude"

wtf is this abyss comp bro

lxolotl [#4]

wtf is this abyss comp bro

wdym bruh, this is like a pretty standard comp. The only difference between this comp and TH's is that Boo plays Astra. I don't think Zellsis would play Astra and I don't think Omen is too viable on this map so I put Zellsis on smokes.

reremus [#5]

wdym bruh, this is like a pretty standard comp. The only difference between this comp and TH's is that Boo plays Astra. I don't think Zellsis would play Astra and I don't think Omen is too viable on this map so I put Zellsis on smokes.

solo viper on abyss? what r u smoking bro

I feel like sen got this just cause of the amount of experience diff in the team. Though i wouldn't rule out heretics now that miniboo is online. I expect this shi to be a close 2-1 or atleast i hope for one

Zaphkiel [#7]

I feel like sen got this just cause of the amount of experience diff in the team. Though i wouldn't rule out heretics now that miniboo is online. I expect this shi to be a close 2-1 or atleast i hope for one

That's also a big factor. The only reason why I didn't include it is because TH have been to a Grand Finals now. While the players on SEN are more experienced, TH have gone through some heartbreaking losses and that builds experience.

reremus [#8]

That's also a big factor. The only reason why I didn't include it is because TH have been to a Grand Finals now. While the players on SEN are more experienced, TH have gone through some heartbreaking losses and that builds experience.

True, as a neutral all I hope for is a close game. Zellsis and sacy needs to step it up as well (in terms of duels) cause heretics got 5 insane aimers

if you watched any of the emea games you would see how incredible th is on sunset, and they have only been choosing abyss because sunset keeps getting banned. If sen doesn’t ban sunset, after seeing how shaky they have looked on the map against edg and fnc, they will make a big mistake.

Zaphkiel [#9]

True, as a neutral all I hope for is a close game. Zellsis and sacy needs to step it up as well (in terms of duels) cause heretics got 5 insane aimers

Yea they cannot afford to drop stinkers against TH.

this guy just said Abyss with Viper as the hardcore smokes lol pls give me whatever you're smoking, SEN will most likely either run the TH comp or the Gen.G comp

hoochiemakooter [#10]

if you watched any of the emea games you would see how incredible th is on sunset, and they have only been choosing abyss because sunset keeps getting banned. If sen doesn’t ban sunset, after seeing how shaky they have looked on the map against edg and fnc, they will make a big mistake.

Yea... I know they're incredible, that's why I said they'll win if it goes to Sunset. While SEN have looked shaky at times, they've been able to close it out which I think is the most important factor. No one remembers the scoreline, or the round differential. They just remember either the win or loss.

Since they've been closing games out, they won't shy away from Sunset.

envyz [#12]

this guy just said Abyss with Viper as the hardcore smokes lol pls give me whatever you're smoking, SEN will most likely either run the TH comp or the Gen.G comp

I don't know, I personally just don't see anyone on SEN playing Astra but I could be wrong.

reremus [#5]

wdym bruh, this is like a pretty standard comp. The only difference between this comp and TH's is that Boo plays Astra. I don't think Zellsis would play Astra and I don't think Omen is too viable on this map so I put Zellsis on smokes.

TenZ for sure Omen on abyss

Oh hey, The map prediction on this one is very similar to the one I made. Guess it's a good map predict if you can make a reason why they'll pick those map

KaiZen02 [#15]

TenZ for sure Omen on abyss

really, you think? I feel like they'd rather have a Gekko for plants but I could be wrong

Bluelive [#16]

Oh hey, The map prediction on this one is very similar to the one I made. Guess it's a good map predict if you can make a reason why they'll pick those map

Zellsis has played Astra TenZ can also play Astra or just play omen lol it's not like omen is horrible on the map

call me crazy, but I think sentinels runs a variation of the gen.g comp
zekken - neon
tenz - yoru
sacy - sova
zellsis/john - astra
zellsis/john - cypher
I also think they pick haven into TH

envyz [#18]

Zellsis has played Astra TenZ can also play Astra or just play omen lol it's not like omen is horrible on the map

you replied to the wrong guy

Bluelive [#20]

you replied to the wrong guy

oh shi

reremus [#14]

I don't know, I personally just don't see anyone on SEN playing Astra but I could be wrong.

#20

envyz [#18]

Zellsis has played Astra TenZ can also play Astra or just play omen lol it's not like omen is horrible on the map

Yea Zellsis is pretty flexible. Idk I just don't remember the last time he's played Astra so I kind of negated it in my head.

michaelisupset [#19]

call me crazy, but I think sentinels runs a variation of the gen.g comp
zekken - neon
tenz - yoru
sacy - sova
zellsis/john - astra
zellsis/john - cypher
I also think they pick haven into TH

This would be fire af too.

Heretics clears dawg

sexocum [#25]

Heretics clears dawg

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sexocum [#25]

Heretics clears dawg

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solo viper on abyss is an instant lose lol

catNmouse [#28]

solo viper on abyss is an instant lose lol

yea reading it back and thinking about it, I miscalculated.

reremus [#29]

yea reading it back and thinking about it, I miscalculated.

all good