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Upstander123 [#3]Makes sense. G2 look incredible, and their playstyle counters PRX's well. Additionally, PRX look out of form and are playing less disciplined than they should -- even for PRX.
MAP PICKS are as follows, ASCENT - PRX, LOTUS - G2 AND DECIDER either ICEBOX or BIND
BulkyLettuce [#5]We might be the underdogs but when the clock starts ticking and the first round kicks off, everything changes.
As much as i hate you and your little weasel friends, you are right. Everyone believes until you get in the server with PRX and you get your ass handed to you. We just have to hope PRX show up!
kalayav_n [#9]ASCENT/ICEBOX/BIND/LOTUS/ABYSS is their best map no?
Sunset and lotus only really. They don’t have a strong map pool.
Verlisien [#11]Sunset and lotus only really. They don’t have a strong map pool.
you watch valorant?
ymfb [#10]Nah only on Lotus and Sunset they have more wins than losses. Abyss they played once but won it so theres not much data
brother this is PRX, every map they are cracked on. they just need to show up and stop trolling
kalayav_n [#6]MAP PICKS are as follows, ASCENT - PRX, LOTUS - G2 AND DECIDER either ICEBOX or BIND
crazy, ascent is their worst map
kalayav_n [#6]MAP PICKS are as follows, ASCENT - PRX, LOTUS - G2 AND DECIDER either ICEBOX or BIND
PRX will never ever pick ascent. I kid you not; they have a 17% winrate on it post monyet. The only problem is that PRX's perma ban is haven. It will probably be:
PRX ban haven
G2 ban sunset
PRX pick Lotus
G2 pick ascent
PRX ban bind
G2 ban Icebox
Decider abyss
PRX and G2 continue perma banning. PRX has a strong sunset, so G2 kills 2 birds with one stone with that pick. PRX's ban is significantly less useful, but idk if they'll cook something, so they'll keep that perma ban. PRX pick lotus because that is their next best map. Additionally, it is G2's next weakest map (although it is still very very strong) G2 pick ascent because PRX has shown that their ascent is garbage while G2 has a very strong ascent. PRX bans bind because that is their next weakest map. G2 ban icebox because that is their next weakest map. Both teams have very novel abyss with seemingly strong ideas, so they'll be fine leaving it as a decider.
Alternatively, PRX could pick icebox instead to exploit G2's weakest map, but PRX's icebox is not as strong as their lotus. It comes down to whether or not alecks will gamble or how scrims go.
honestly, i think it might be a 60/40 in favor of g2. I wouldnt be surprised if prx win a close series but i dont think the round differential would be greater than 10 rounds
g2 have been looking dominant ever since shanghai and are prx's kryptonite in terms of playstyle
g2 are top 5 (maybe top 3) teams this event
Upstander123 [#15]PRX will never ever pick ascent. I kid you not; they have a 17% winrate on it post monyet. The only problem is that PRX's perma ban is haven. It will probably be:
PRX ban haven
G2 ban sunset
PRX pick Lotus
G2 pick ascent
PRX ban bind
G2 ban Icebox
Decider abyssPRX and G2 continue perma banning. PRX has a strong sunset, so G2 kills 2 birds with one stone with that pick. PRX's ban is significantly less useful, but idk if they'll cook something, so they'll keep that perma ban. PRX pick lotus because that is their next best map. Additionally, it is G2's next weakest map (although it is still very very strong) G2 pick ascent because PRX has shown that their ascent is garbage while G2 has a very strong ascent. PRX bans bind because that is their next weakest map. G2 ban icebox because that is their next weakest map. Both teams have very novel abyss with seemingly strong ideas, so they'll be fine leaving it as a decider.
Alternatively, PRX could pick icebox instead to exploit G2's weakest map, but PRX's icebox is not as strong as their lotus. It comes down to whether or not alecks will gamble or how scrims go.
I think PRX are going to be the best team at abyss. They looked solid in their abyss match, and I think PRX recognize they need to fix their map pool if they want any chance of winning Champs. PRX was one of if not the best ITW at Pearl last year, and was a major strength of their run. If they can learn abyss well, tighten up a few other maps, permabanning haven is fine.
I would guess G2 bans abyss over icebox unless they have also been practicing it for this reason, and also G2 focus more on structure, and the abyss meta has yet to settle.
Edit: The other thing that's kinda cope is that PRX may try to pull out Haven for the surprise factor. They may be secretly practicing it.
kalayav_n [#12]you watch valorant?
How do they have a good map pool at all?
Their sunset is arguably one of if not the best ITW, and their Lotus is pretty solid.
Outside of that, they do not look good.
Ascent is ass for them.
Icebox and Bind are both decent, but certainty winnable.
Abyss is a question mark. I personally think PRX are going to really drill abyss, and hope to become really good at it, but we haven't seen anything about that.
Haven is their perma ban.
doomvor [#18]How do they have a good map pool at all?
Their sunset is arguably one of if not the best ITW, and their Lotus is pretty solid.
Outside of that, they do not look good.
Ascent is ass for them.
Icebox and Bind are both decent, but certainty winnable.
Abyss is a question mark. I personally think PRX are going to really drill abyss, and hope to become really good at it, but we haven't seen anything about that.
Haven is their perma ban.
Just let'em be, he just wants to argue lol
doomvor [#18]How do they have a good map pool at all?
Their sunset is arguably one of if not the best ITW, and their Lotus is pretty solid.
Outside of that, they do not look good.
Ascent is ass for them.
Icebox and Bind are both decent, but certainty winnable.
Abyss is a question mark. I personally think PRX are going to really drill abyss, and hope to become really good at it, but we haven't seen anything about that.
Haven is their perma ban.
yk what i will comeback to this when they prove you wrong, everyone saying PRX dont have good map pool. they will show you vs g2 bro trust me
kalayav_n [#22]like the 100t game? i dont think so man, prx are much better
100t let g2 win cause we needed paychecks , we bet against ourselves to pay a couple of OF
kalayav_n [#20]yk what i will comeback to this when they prove you wrong, everyone saying PRX dont have good map pool. they will show you vs g2 bro trust me
Yes, because you don't have a logical argument at this time.
And after the game, you have no right to say anything like "I told you so"
We are discussing what their map pool is RIGHT NOW. Not what it will look like. And there is no argument that they have a good map pool. Can it change? Definitely. But as of RIGHT NOW, they do not have a good map pool.
You're just saying stuff for the sake of it.
doomvor [#17]I think PRX are going to be the best team at abyss. They looked solid in their abyss match, and I think PRX recognize they need to fix their map pool if they want any chance of winning Champs. PRX was one of if not the best ITW at Pearl last year, and was a major strength of their run. If they can learn abyss well, tighten up a few other maps, permabanning haven is fine.
I would guess G2 bans abyss over icebox unless they have also been practicing it for this reason, and also G2 focus more on structure, and the abyss meta has yet to settle.
Edit: The other thing that's kinda cope is that PRX may try to pull out Haven for the surprise factor. They may be secretly practicing it.
The main problem is that their bind and ascent have abysmally low win rates being 33% and 17% respectively. (if we include shanghai) Assuming that their haven is so bad that they need to constantly ban it (my cope is that they just don't scrim haven because they only had one coach at the time, so they'll stop perma banning), they have 3 bad maps out of the 7 total. Moreover, if they have cooked on haven, they would only whip it out in a must win situations.
Now the reason G2 would ban icebox is G2 has a 33% win rate on icebox (only split 2) while PRX have a 60% win rate on it. The round win rates for G2 on icebox look bad as PRX have a good atk win rate and G2 has a terrible def win rate. While they have practiced icebox for much longer, they would be allowing their second worst map into the pool. While PRX has a strong abyss, G2 also has a decent abyss, and they would not struggle as much as they would on icebox. Even if they don't win, they wouldn't get stomped like they would on icebox imo
doomvor [#24]Yes, because you don't have a logical argument at this time.
And after the game, you have no right to say anything like "I told you so"
We are discussing what their map pool is RIGHT NOW. Not what it will look like. And there is no argument that they have a good map pool. Can it change? Definitely. But as of RIGHT NOW, they do not have a good map pool.
You're just saying stuff for the sake of it.
i've tried countless times to try and explain but since no one watches valorant here its pretty pointless for me to try and convince you on something you don't even understand. same thing happened when i told everyone sentinels haven, abyss, ascent and icebox is dog shit but i was told to shut the fuck up. https://www.vlr.gg/379574/sentinels-come
theres no point in arguing with you because you won't understand. no matter what information, no matter what i give you
Phanification [#23]100t let g2 win cause we needed paychecks , we bet against ourselves to pay a couple of OF
real
kalayav_n [#26]i've tried countless times to try and explain but since no one watches valorant here its pretty pointless for me to try and convince you on something you don't even understand. same thing happened when i told everyone sentinels haven, abyss, ascent and icebox is dog shit but i was told to shut the fuck up. https://www.vlr.gg/379574/sentinels-come
theres no point in arguing with you because you won't understand. no matter what information, no matter what i give you
Try it then. I'd like to think I'm more reasonable than most, so try explaining it to me.
Upstander123 [#25]The main problem is that their bind and ascent have abysmally low win rates being 33% and 17% respectively. (if we include shanghai) Assuming that their haven is so bad that they need to constantly ban it (my cope is that they just don't scrim haven because they only had one coach at the time, so they'll stop perma banning), they have 3 bad maps out of the 7 total. Moreover, if they have cooked on haven, they would only whip it out in a must win situations.
Now the reason G2 would ban icebox is G2 has a 33% win rate on icebox (only split 2) while PRX have a 60% win rate on it. The round win rates for G2 on icebox look bad as PRX have a good atk win rate and G2 has a terrible def win rate. While they have practiced icebox for much longer, they would be allowing their second worst map into the pool. While PRX has a strong abyss, G2 also has a decent abyss, and they would not struggle as much as they would on icebox. Even if they don't win, they wouldn't get stomped like they would on icebox imo
That's all very fair and true. (Thank you for actually backing up your reasoning with stats and overall knowledge btw)
The one thing that I think would make Icebox more preferable to Abyss has more to do with how Icebox is played. Icebox is the most cookie cutter map in how you play it. There are some things you can change, but it's overall relatively simple.
G2 is a very well structured team; it's their playstyle. I just feel G2 and Icebox are such a good combination on this map.
Now for your stats, I do feel that the stats are excluding some outside factors a bit.
PRX played five matches on Icebox. They won 3/5, against Talon, DRX, and DFM. They lost to Gen.G and DRX.
PRX has historically crushed Talon, and DFM is mostly a free win. If we excluded these two wins, then it's also a 33% win rate.
In the two games they lost, they lost 13-5 vs Gen.G and 13-10 vs DRX. PRX only managed to win 4 and 6 rounds on attack respectively. This is not exactly a good attacking half. The main reason why they have such a good attack win rate is because they beat DRX, Talon, and DFM by a lot.
These wins are not all that special. Outside of their 13-5 vs DRX, they have not played well on Icebox at all against good teams. I don't think PRX has all that good of an Icebox.
On Abyss, I still think PRX are decently favored. It's a new map, and I believe PRX are going to try and make it a strength. I know that's not much evidence, but with how PRX handled pearl last year, I believe they will try to learn abyss well.
doomvor [#28]Try it then. I'd like to think I'm more reasonable than most, so try explaining it to me.
G2 is a very slow, heavy default team, I think PRX will run a semi-off meta composition on ASCENT with SOMETHINGG on GEKKO or JING on GEKKO. They could also run the normal default composition would be their best bet, G2 on ASCENT is a toss-up and very "easy" to read. This is going to lead to a chaotic, firefight game and thats what PRX excel at, I highly doubt G2 will control this series at all. PRX on BIND and ICEBOX are very very strong. The only reason they lose most of the games on there is just due to undisciplined habits and tendencies, PRX aren't going to showup to fuck around. Most of their setups and actual strats wise are levels above G2, PRX's LOTUS is insane, the NEON is very strong and with a team like their playstyle its practically impossible to ever win the A fight or C fight whenever PRX fight for it. The Ideal gameplan for G2 would be for them to play uncharacteristic and actually bring the fight to PRX. If G2 let PRX be as aggressive as they want and do not try to stamp back, it's just an inevitable losing game for G2. PRX might also switch to NEON and ISO/YORU on HAVEN with how broken it is on HAVEN. Running NEON, YORU, SOVA, CYPHER, OMEN is very strong on HAVEN, I highly doubt they did fix their HAVEN in time though.
Anguibok [#29]My bot say G2 51%, PRX 49%
https://www.vlr.gg/379066/bet-on-odd-final-s04
yeah, only reason they are underdogs is because of the undisciplined tendencies, disciplined PRX is by far the better team than G2.
kalayav_n [#31]G2 is a very slow, heavy default team, I think PRX will run a semi-off meta composition on ASCENT with SOMETHINGG on GEKKO or JING on GEKKO. They could also run the normal default composition would be their best bet, G2 on ASCENT is a toss-up and very "easy" to read. This is going to lead to a chaotic, firefight game and thats what PRX excel at, I highly doubt G2 will control this series at all. PRX on BIND and ICEBOX are very very strong. The only reason they lose most of the games on there is just due to undisciplined habits and tendencies, PRX aren't going to showup to fuck around. Most of their setups and actual strats wise are levels above G2, PRX's LOTUS is insane, the NEON is very strong and with a team like their playstyle its practically impossible to ever win the A fight or C fight whenever PRX fight for it. The Ideal gameplan for G2 would be for them to play uncharacteristic and actually bring the fight to PRX. If G2 let PRX be as aggressive as they want and do not try to stamp back, it's just an inevitable losing game for G2. PRX might also switch to NEON and ISO/YORU on HAVEN with how broken it is on HAVEN. Running NEON, YORU, SOVA, CYPHER, OMEN is very strong on HAVEN, I highly doubt they did fix their HAVEN in time though.
I think you're WAY underestimating how well G2 can deal with these "aggressive" styles.
G2's entire playbook for a lot of maps is literally just to never take fair fights. If PRX has just a tiny bit of bad spacing, G2 are going to punish, take and win a 2v1, and then should clean up. You yourself agree that PRX has overheating tendencies, which is EXACTLY what G2 love to see, as they can always punish with how coordinated they are.
BulkyLettuce [#5]We might be the underdogs but when the clock starts ticking and the first round kicks off, everything changes.
well lucky for you prxs #1 fanboy is able to watch the event so they’ll definitely beat g2
doomvor [#33]I think you're WAY underestimating how well G2 can deal with these "aggressive" styles.
G2's entire playbook for a lot of maps is literally just to never take fair fights. If PRX has just a tiny bit of bad spacing, G2 are going to punish, take and win a 2v1, and then should clean up. You yourself agree that PRX has overheating tendencies, which is EXACTLY what G2 love to see, as they can always punish with how coordinated they are.
no way man, G2 are never going to win this series if they are consistently on the backfoot. PRX aren't like any other team that tries to be aggressive, they have mastered the skill. PRX will be on the back of your head no matter what. What I agreed to was PRX making bad decisions and having horrible tendencies such as not understanding positional advantages and disadvantageous. These tendencies mostly happen in attacking post plant situations. PRX taking the fight to G2 and trying to control/fight for extremities is not overheating at all. G2 are positional monsters and will punish you if you are reckless, but if you don't let G2 get these positions and have these advantageous its very hard for G2 to do anything at all. A great example of this would be the BIND defense side VS LEV, ASCENT vs LEV. When G2 isn't awarded specific key positions in certain maps they aren't able to do anything and are much more easily "readable" as you could say.
kalayav_n [#6]MAP PICKS are as follows, ASCENT - PRX, LOTUS - G2 AND DECIDER either ICEBOX or BIND
Prx pick ascent. Thats funny.
catNmouse [#39]in terms of what?
player skills, players abilities, experience, "agent pool", firepower, game sense. they just lack alittle more discipline and just need few tweaks
kalayav_n [#36]no way man, G2 are never going to win this series if they are consistently on the backfoot. PRX aren't like any other team that tries to be aggressive, they have mastered the skill. PRX will be on the back of your head no matter what. What I agreed to was PRX making bad decisions and having horrible tendencies such as not understanding positional advantages and disadvantageous. These tendencies mostly happen in attacking post plant situations. PRX taking the fight to G2 and trying to control/fight for extremities is not overheating at all. G2 are positional monsters and will punish you if you are reckless, but if you don't let G2 get these positions and have these advantageous its very hard for G2 to do anything at all. A great example of this would be the BIND defense side VS LEV, ASCENT vs LEV. When G2 isn't awarded specific key positions in certain maps they aren't able to do anything and are much more easily "readable" as you could say.
PRX has the highest post plant win percentage in all of VCT during Stage Two(though TBF, it was only against APAC opponents.)
I'd say they've spent a lot of time learning post plants after they shit the bed in Shanghai. They definitely learned how to play post plants.
The problem I see is that sometimes, PRX will try to take the fight but either get hard read and/or lose gunfights. This isn't regionals, where they can just outaim their way out of disadvantages. Forcing fights is all well and good, but keep in mind all G2 did in their win during Shanghai was basically just sit for twenty seconds at the start and see where they pushed from. Unless they are slowing it down. they can't really win.
kalayav_n [#40]player skills, players abilities, experience, "agent pool", firepower, game sense. they just lack alittle more discipline and just need few tweaks
i’d say they have relatively good game sense equal to g2s. experience & firepower (evident in geng and th lower finals) i agree with you. i think prx are in desperation as with every other team to win this matchup. we will see how the game goes though. if icy life games once in a blue moon again then it will definitely be much harder
doomvor [#41]PRX has the highest post plant win percentage in all of VCT during Stage Two(though TBF, it was only against APAC opponents.)
I'd say they've spent a lot of time learning post plants after they shit the bed in Shanghai. They definitely learned how to play post plants.
The problem I see is that sometimes, PRX will try to take the fight but either get hard read and/or lose gunfights. This isn't regionals, where they can just outaim their way out of disadvantages. Forcing fights is all well and good, but keep in mind all G2 did in their win during Shanghai was basically just sit for twenty seconds at the start and see where they pushed from. Unless they are slowing it down. they can't really win.
Agreed, im glad they improved their post plant protocols, in terms of the G2 vs PRX game in shanghai. I can only remember how many attack rounds they threw on LOTUS. PRX can 100% out aim and diff G2 but it will be very hard, Keep in mind they aren't dry swinging and will have great UTIL to back their fights. PRX aren't dumb and know how to take advantageous pushes/aggression. We will just have to see tmrw. Im glad we could have a great debate though, finally someone who is analytical and understands the game 🫡
kalayav_n [#44]Agreed, im glad they improved their post plant protocols, in terms of the G2 vs PRX game in shanghai. I can only remember how many attack rounds they threw on LOTUS. PRX can 100% out aim and diff G2 but it will be very hard, Keep in mind they aren't dry swinging and will have great UTIL to back their fights. PRX aren't dumb and know how to take advantageous pushes/aggression. We will just have to see tmrw. Im glad we could have a great debate though, finally someone who is analytical and understands the game 🫡
I know right... It was very sad to watch...
I don't know about 100% out aim G2, they can shoot back pretty well, and icy may have his occasional life game again.
And thank you for that! You too :)
(Though I still think you're underestimating G2)
edit: oh, and in case you're curious, I would say 65/35 G2 as of right now. Unless PRX has fixed their map pool, I still see G2 winning. But PRX can just have life games and outaim the heck out of them. 1v2 means nothing if you kill them both first :)
kalayav_n [#44]Agreed, im glad they improved their post plant protocols, in terms of the G2 vs PRX game in shanghai. I can only remember how many attack rounds they threw on LOTUS. PRX can 100% out aim and diff G2 but it will be very hard, Keep in mind they aren't dry swinging and will have great UTIL to back their fights. PRX aren't dumb and know how to take advantageous pushes/aggression. We will just have to see tmrw. Im glad we could have a great debate though, finally someone who is analytical and understands the game 🫡
W thread ngl, you redeemed yourself after the DZ slander last week. firepower is key but having a good strategic game plan and being able to execute it is just as important. We saw how PRX dominated G2 first half on split but they could have easily choked 2nd half too. I think that’s when G2 was able to gain momentum because if they got 12-0’d first half or 13-0’d then they would get destroyed. I don’t think they have the talon kind of mentality to bounce back like that. I think PRX are much more prepared against G2 HOWEVER G2 has significantly improved from shanghai. Either way this will be a good and fun match to watch, two extremely opposite play styles taking on each other. Also don’t forget both of these teams are big chokers so this could either be a stomp, a good game, or a long ass game. It just comes down to momentum anyways I yapped a lot for nothing
doomvor [#45]I know right... It was very sad to watch...
I don't know about 100% out aim G2, they can shoot back pretty well, and icy may have his occasional life game again.
And thank you for that! You too :)
(Though I still think you're underestimating G2)
edit: oh, and in case you're curious, I would say 65/35 G2 as of right now. Unless PRX has fixed their map pool, I still see G2 winning. But PRX can just have life games and outaim the heck out of them. 1v2 means nothing if you kill them both first :)
G2 has improved since shanghai but they still have tendencies to choke just like PRX, if icy gets a life game it’s probably over 😭
catNmouse [#47]G2 has improved since shanghai but they still have tendencies to choke just like PRX, if icy gets a life game it’s probably over 😭
nah, PRX just has a life game right back
five aim demons > one aim demon + 4 somewhat aim demons
catNmouse [#46]W thread ngl, you redeemed yourself after the DZ slander last week. firepower is key but having a good strategic game plan and being able to execute it is just as important. We saw how PRX dominated G2 first half on split but they could have easily choked 2nd half too. I think that’s when G2 was able to gain momentum because if they got 12-0’d first half or 13-0’d then they would get destroyed. I don’t think they have the talon kind of mentality to bounce back like that. I think PRX are much more prepared against G2 HOWEVER G2 has significantly improved from shanghai. Either way this will be a good and fun match to watch, two extremely opposite play styles taking on each other. Also don’t forget both of these teams are big chokers so this could either be a stomp, a good game, or a long ass game. It just comes down to momentum anyways I yapped a lot for nothing
all good bro you didnt yap, in terms of DZ nothing against DZ no hate towards them but i just love seeing underdogs win every single time. in terms of mentality, I think PRX have the best mentality in all of VCT, they are best friends and have fun no matter what. Its very important to have good morale in a team, Yes both teams are big chokers but PRX are only chokers because of bad tendencies and decisions. They have to have had fixed this theres no way, im 100% convinced they fixed the problems. It will be very fun game to watch tmrw
doomvor [#48]nah, PRX just has a life game right back
five aim demons > one aim demon + 4 somewhat aim demons
If trent starts playing like trexx or leo then yall better be careful, prx something himself said that trent is the player to look out for I think
catNmouse [#50]If trent starts playing like trexx or leo then yall better be careful, prx something himself said that trent is the player to look out for I think
yeah, but simple math:
five aim demons > one god demon + one aim demon + 3 somewhat aim demons :)
(okay i have no idea what i'm yapping about now)
kalayav_n [#49]all good bro you didnt yap, in terms of DZ nothing against DZ no hate towards them but i just love seeing underdogs win every single time. in terms of mentality, I think PRX have the best mentality in all of VCT, they are best friends and have fun no matter what. Its very important to have good morale in a team, Yes both teams are big chokers but PRX are only chokers because of bad tendencies and decisions. They have to have had fixed this theres no way, im 100% convinced they fixed the problems. It will be very fun game to watch tmrw
It will be very fun game to watch tmrw
this is what everyone can agree on <3
kalayav_n [#49]all good bro you didnt yap, in terms of DZ nothing against DZ no hate towards them but i just love seeing underdogs win every single time. in terms of mentality, I think PRX have the best mentality in all of VCT, they are best friends and have fun no matter what. Its very important to have good morale in a team, Yes both teams are big chokers but PRX are only chokers because of bad tendencies and decisions. They have to have had fixed this theres no way, im 100% convinced they fixed the problems. It will be very fun game to watch tmrw
I can see where you’re going with PRX having the best mentality but I don’t exactly think that’s true, if I recall correctly alecks only timeouts in regional games to check on his players and see if they’re doing okay. I don’t know if there’s a guy on the team to reassure them in times of struggle. One thing for sure is that if sunset for some reason doesn’t get banned then G2 is done for lol
catNmouse [#53]I can see where you’re going with PRX having the best mentality but I don’t exactly think that’s true, if I recall correctly alecks only timeouts in regional games to check on his players and see if they’re doing okay. I don’t know if there’s a guy on the team to reassure them in times of struggle. One thing for sure is that if sunset for some reason doesn’t get banned then G2 is done for lol
PRX have looked so good on sunset, I have no idea how this sage comp isn't being countered yet...
But yeah, I agree, I don't think the mental applies to in game.
catNmouse [#53]I can see where you’re going with PRX having the best mentality but I don’t exactly think that’s true, if I recall correctly alecks only timeouts in regional games to check on his players and see if they’re doing okay. I don’t know if there’s a guy on the team to reassure them in times of struggle. One thing for sure is that if sunset for some reason doesn’t get banned then G2 is done for lol
i see that too but, forsaken is the leader of the team and i believe in him. he took them to champs last year, sunset is probably the first ban for G2 ngl.
doomvor [#52]It will be very fun game to watch tmrw
this is what everyone can agree on <3
I can see this being the best opening game if it goes to three maps.
catNmouse [#57]I can see this being the best opening game if it goes to three maps.
If it doesn't go to three maps, they both better be close or one team will have sorely disappointed
doomvor [#45]I know right... It was very sad to watch...
I don't know about 100% out aim G2, they can shoot back pretty well, and icy may have his occasional life game again.
And thank you for that! You too :)
(Though I still think you're underestimating G2)
edit: oh, and in case you're curious, I would say 65/35 G2 as of right now. Unless PRX has fixed their map pool, I still see G2 winning. But PRX can just have life games and outaim the heck out of them. 1v2 means nothing if you kill them both first :)
soo disappointing, props to G2 they kinda followed the gameplan and aren't afraid to fight PRX at all which is very smart. W gameplan but i expected more from PRX, hella disappointed 😭
kalayav_n [#20]yk what i will comeback to this when they prove you wrong, everyone saying PRX dont have good map pool. they will show you vs g2 bro trust me
You gotta watch the games and stop talking nonsense
kalayav_n [#59]soo disappointing, props to G2 they kinda followed the gameplan and aren't afraid to fight PRX at all which is very smart. W gameplan but i expected more from PRX, hella disappointed 😭
Yeah, this I'd why I was talking about how you underrated G2 way too much. Their coordination is crazy...
kalayav_n [#20]yk what i will comeback to this when they prove you wrong, everyone saying PRX dont have good map pool. they will show you vs g2 bro trust me
lol
doomvor [#61]Yeah, this I'd why I was talking about how you underrated G2 way too much. Their coordination is crazy...
i wouldnt say i underrated them tbh, i did have PRX as underdogs soley because of those throwing tendencies and they showed it today. tough loss for PRX
kalayav_n [#63]i wouldnt say i underrated them tbh, i did have PRX as underdogs soley because of those throwing tendencies and they showed it today. tough loss for PRX
I guess you could look at it that way.
It's okay, PRX will bounce back in the LB trust :)
doomvor [#64]I guess you could look at it that way.
It's okay, PRX will bounce back in the LB trust :)
idk lost all faith honestly, atleast i was right about FUT lol
doomvor [#28]Try it then. I'd like to think I'm more reasonable than most, so try explaining it to me.
The guy just wants to argue.Everyone knows prx weak in jett maps especially ascent and breeze
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