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TL, KOI, NAVI

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SnorlaxEnjoyer

Team Liquid 2025:

  • Alexiiik (deulist)
  • Nats (sentinel / viper)
  • Enzo [IGL] (initiator)
  • Jesse (smokes)
  • Patitek (initiator / flex)

bonkar (HC)

Natus Vincere 2025:

keep everyone drop ANGE1 and get an IGL that plays smokes
maybe Redgar because I don't think he's washed just played in a bad environment

KOI 2025:

  • Sheydos [IGL] (sentinel / viper)
  • Xuss (deulist)
  • PR0FEK (smokes)
  • Guardy (Initiator)
  • YaBoiLewis (Initiator / flex)

BARBARR (HC)
Zescht (AC)

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gold2peak
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vomit

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SnorlaxEnjoyer
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gold2peak [#2]

vomit

alr buddy

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#3]

alr buddy

wtf is Alexiik you cant even find him on vlr

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get t1 rossy for igl and make shao stick on playing smokers

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Mortadelo
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I might be wrong, but it looks to me like you've mostly watched only the Play in of EMEA tier 2 scene

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SnorlaxEnjoyer
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Mortadelo [#6]

I might be wrong, but it looks to me like you've mostly watched only the Play in of EMEA tier 2 scene

I've watched the majority of the leagues except for turkey but ascension players are arguably the best players for each league however if you have any suggestions do let me know or if u feel some players have a better chance of shining in the T1 scene LMK :)

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#7]

I've watched the majority of the leagues except for turkey but ascension players are arguably the best players for each league however if you have any suggestions do let me know or if u feel some players have a better chance of shining in the T1 scene LMK :)

I just think Sacake Jesse and Ambi is an atrocious core to sign for tier. They're solid in tier 2, but they've all been around for a long long time and I just think there are countless better options

About Navi, I can see a total reset but there is absolutely no way redgar gets picked up in tier 1 this year

And KOI, sheydos is as far of an IGL as it gets. Profek I really like but I'm not sure he is better than grubi. Vince and xuss are both really good I just think there are much much better options, Ruxic and Click are the first 2 to come to mind but there are many others I like better. And Guardy I would love but idk to what point I'm biased xD

Also Barbar already quit himself, but if not he was 100% the first one to go out

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Mortadelo [#8]

I just think Sacake Jesse and Ambi is an atrocious core to sign for tier. They're solid in tier 2, but they've all been around for a long long time and I just think there are countless better options

About Navi, I can see a total reset but there is absolutely no way redgar gets picked up in tier 1 this year

And KOI, sheydos is as far of an IGL as it gets. Profek I really like but I'm not sure he is better than grubi. Vince and xuss are both really good I just think there are much much better options, Ruxic and Click are the first 2 to come to mind but there are many others I like better. And Guardy I would love but idk to what point I'm biased xD

Also Barbar already quit himself, but if not he was 100% the first one to go out

I see where you are coming with a lot of this in terms of Ruxic I thought BBL would just be the safer and smarter choice and with Click he is really good but xuss has done much better stats wise I think.
Ambi on the role switch has been decent, I was debating between Enzo and Sacake it's kinda whatever really, but I have been impressed with Jesse he has really found his groove.

if Barbarr quit oh well tbh he was still a really good coach

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Mortadelo [#8]

I just think Sacake Jesse and Ambi is an atrocious core to sign for tier. They're solid in tier 2, but they've all been around for a long long time and I just think there are countless better options

About Navi, I can see a total reset but there is absolutely no way redgar gets picked up in tier 1 this year

And KOI, sheydos is as far of an IGL as it gets. Profek I really like but I'm not sure he is better than grubi. Vince and xuss are both really good I just think there are much much better options, Ruxic and Click are the first 2 to come to mind but there are many others I like better. And Guardy I would love but idk to what point I'm biased xD

Also Barbar already quit himself, but if not he was 100% the first one to go out

just saying going 123/80/46 in a bo5 is fucking crazy and he has been a decent fragger on smokes with pretty good util usage I honestly think a case can be made for him to be in t1

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KOI will still be dog they're the NRG of EMEA

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Mortadelo [#8]

I just think Sacake Jesse and Ambi is an atrocious core to sign for tier. They're solid in tier 2, but they've all been around for a long long time and I just think there are countless better options

About Navi, I can see a total reset but there is absolutely no way redgar gets picked up in tier 1 this year

And KOI, sheydos is as far of an IGL as it gets. Profek I really like but I'm not sure he is better than grubi. Vince and xuss are both really good I just think there are much much better options, Ruxic and Click are the first 2 to come to mind but there are many others I like better. And Guardy I would love but idk to what point I'm biased xD

Also Barbar already quit himself, but if not he was 100% the first one to go out

I respect your answer changed up TL to keep Enzo and maybe import Rossy idk

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#10]

just saying going 123/80/46 in a bo5 is fucking crazy and he has been a decent fragger on smokes with pretty good util usage I honestly think a case can be made for him to be in t1

wait what

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gold2peak
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ihatewestjett [#11]

KOI will still be dog they're the NRG of EMEA

nrg at least try to build competitive rosters

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Mortadelo [#13]

wait what

yes and that too against the m8 team before they were m8

https://www.vlr.gg/180745/sbg-vs-valiant-challengers-league-france-revolution-split-1-sf

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awful teams. also barbar is leaving koi

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#12]

I respect your answer changed up TL to keep Enzo and maybe import Rossy idk

I think their problem is way bigger than that. What they need to do is kicking Emil and finding a new coach to let him build the roster. Doombros, Onur, Sliggy, etc, someone you trust and let him build his own project

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Mortadelo [#17]

I think their problem is way bigger than that. What they need to do is kicking Emil and finding a new coach to let him build the roster. Doombros, Onur, Sliggy, etc, someone you trust and let him build his own project

hence Bonkar

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ihatewestjett [#11]

KOI will still be dog they're the NRG of EMEA

ngl dont like KOI but they won regular season and sentinels didint

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Navi zeddy?

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meowchan
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nah NAVI needs a complete rebuild

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Itsover
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Why do you hate nAts so much? He deserves to play with the best, not with some random t500 bums.

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#15]

yes and that too against the m8 team before they were m8

https://www.vlr.gg/180745/sbg-vs-valiant-challengers-league-france-revolution-split-1-sf

Wow I never saw that, that's crazy.

He is good, I've been following him since his UCAM times but it's really not the choice I would go for

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meowchan [#21]

nah NAVI needs a complete rebuild

they need to keep shao, if he was on a better team he would be in best itw convos

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#18]

hence Bonkar

Yeah, any of those profiles work

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gold2peak [#24]

they need to keep shao, if he was on a better team he would be in best itw convos

yea should build around shao, ardiss and suygetsu

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Itsover [#22]

Why do you hate nAts so much? He deserves to play with the best, not with some random t500 bums.

check #10 and #15, Alexiiik is honestly a phenomenal talent and Rossy has been a really solid flex he deserves a good team around him

Mistic, Jampi and Keiko are not that

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#27]

check #10 and #15, Alexiiik is honestly a phenomenal talent and Rossy has been a really solid flex he deserves a good team around him

Mistic, Jampi and Keiko are not that

He deserves Chronicle, Sheydos, Derke and Vici.

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gold2peak [#4]

wtf is Alexiik you cant even find him on vlr

https://www.vlr.gg/player/25906/alexiiik

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Itsover [#28]

He deserves Chronicle, Sheydos, Derke and Vici.

Derke and Chron ain't leaving FNC

KOI should be rebuilding around Sheydos and also sheydos and nats role clash

Vici getting paid the big bucks in china by JDG no chance he leaves

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gold2peak
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meowchan [#26]

yea should build around shao, ardiss and suygetsu

not ardiis, they need a flexible carry duelist and ardiis hasnt been that in a really long time

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2 smokes players on KOI and dropping grubinho okay

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yungbasel
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Redgar???????

Skip

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toofan1
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TL sign this guy rn
He is as worse as ur management at picking players

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toofan1 [#34]

TL sign this guy rn
He is as worse as ur management at picking players

Bro jesse is so much better than Mistic
Enzo was a battle to keep here
Alexiiik is a really good talent arguable better than keiko
Rossy is overall a decent flex
Nats is nats

Jamppi and Mistic have had their chances at the Top level of valorant and have not done much
For all the hype around Keiko he didn't do much

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I think Addicted would be a better initiator IGL than Enzo, but he’s gonna have to prove it in Ascension.

Also Patitek over Rossy in my opinion.

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woofee99 [#36]

I think Addicted would be a better initiator IGL than Enzo, but he’s gonna have to prove it in Ascension.

Also Patitek over Rossy in my opinion.

this completely skipped my mind yes Patitek I'll change that now

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Schneefeuer11
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KOI one is troll
Lewis def IGL over Sheydos
Also Z0scht??? (Hope he doesnt find this)

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gold2peak
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woofee99 [#36]

I think Addicted would be a better initiator IGL than Enzo, but he’s gonna have to prove it in Ascension.

Also Patitek over Rossy in my opinion.

patitek is really not that good, he had a couple of decent games in shanghai but ignoring everything before that is kinda crazy

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gold2peak [#14]

nrg at least try to build competitive rosters

NRG management doesnt know what Chemistry, meta changes and team roles are

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Schneefeuer11 [#40]

NRG management doesnt know what Chemistry, meta changes and team roles are

koi management doesnt know what money is

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Tryeue2 [#20]

Navi zeddy?

Duno
Cloud
7ssk7
Zeddy
Dinkzj

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gold2peak [#41]

koi management doesnt know what money is

They should let their coach pay ngl

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Mortadelo [#8]

I just think Sacake Jesse and Ambi is an atrocious core to sign for tier. They're solid in tier 2, but they've all been around for a long long time and I just think there are countless better options

About Navi, I can see a total reset but there is absolutely no way redgar gets picked up in tier 1 this year

And KOI, sheydos is as far of an IGL as it gets. Profek I really like but I'm not sure he is better than grubi. Vince and xuss are both really good I just think there are much much better options, Ruxic and Click are the first 2 to come to mind but there are many others I like better. And Guardy I would love but idk to what point I'm biased xD

Also Barbar already quit himself, but if not he was 100% the first one to go out

I agree with your take but no profek slander is allowed. The guy MUST play T1

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Congo1 [#44]

I agree with your take but no profek slander is allowed. The guy MUST play T1

I'm not saying he shouldn't. But precisely on KOI idk, I feel like they will keep grubi and I believe his potential is just as big. But if they do not keep grubi I do like Profek

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gold2peak [#39]

patitek is really not that good, he had a couple of decent games in shanghai but ignoring everything before that is kinda crazy

are u stupid did u even watch shanghai

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gold2peak
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lakpx [#46]

are u stupid did u even watch shanghai

i literally said outside of shanghai he was bad for heretics

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