When asked about why are Sentinels running Deadlock comp on Ascent, Kaplan said -
"The biggest reason we picked up this comp was because everyone else is winning with it but we aren't which sucks.
Our attack is fine, but we have problems on defense with this comp."
Kinda sounds like desperation, no?
Also, having problems with defense while you have Deadlock is kinda crazy
nobody___100 [#2]having problems on defense ascent with two sentinels is atrocious
yeah, that's what I'm saying
and it's not like their attack is clean either
they can't really defend properly and they'll get shut down on attack, so how do you win
ButterflyEffect23 [#6]yeah, that's what I'm saying
and it's not like their attack is clean either
they can't really defend properly and they'll get shut down on attack, so how do you win
geng didn’t even play super good on ascent compared to their haven; they got a lot of gaps in their ascent comp but good thing fpx don’t play that map
shrike- [#8]mxs pioneered this ascent comp, i’m pretty sure, and they ended up losing to tsm with it to knock them out of ascension quals
it doesn’t work just because sometimes teams like lev win with it
nip ran it first back in china ascension i think, they were literally the first team to use deadlock in pro
sideshowsbaldhead [#11]nip ran it first back in china ascension i think, they were literally the first team to use deadlock in pro
Fayde my goat
ButterflyEffect23 [#6]yeah, that's what I'm saying
and it's not like their attack is clean either
they can't really defend properly and they'll get shut down on attack, so how do you win
i mean they went 3/5 on attack in rounds won which isn't bad at all on ascent (even if they won pistol)
deadlock shines in postplant scenarios mostly, but trading out flashes for deadlock is not a good choice
nobody___100 [#13]i mean they went 3/5 on attack in rounds won which isn't bad at all on ascent (even if they won pistol)
deadlock shines in postplant scenarios mostly, but trading out flashes for deadlock is not a good choice
they won pistol and bonus, and one singular gun round as the attack, so...
sideshowsbaldhead [#11]nip ran it first back in china ascension i think, they were literally the first team to use deadlock in pro
ah you’re right
but even then, nip had minimal success with the comp regardless, they had some good games but they ended up losing to drg to knock them out
this comp really only works if you have the shooters to execute the plays that are built around it and it doesn’t look like sen have that
ButterflyEffect23 [#14]they won pistol and bonus, and one singular gun round as the attack, so...
4 on attack for ascent is fine, which they would have gotten
but defense is atrocious
shrike- [#15]ah you’re right
but even then, nip had minimal success with the comp regardless, they had some good games but they ended up losing to drg to knock them out
this comp really only works if you have the shooters to execute the plays that are built around it and it doesn’t look like sen have that
NiP were winning against middle of the pack teams/teams of their level with this comp I believe
When they were up against the stronger/mechanically better opposition, NiP were getting shut down
shrike- [#15]ah you’re right
but even then, nip had minimal success with the comp regardless, they had some good games but they ended up losing to drg to knock them out
this comp really only works if you have the shooters to execute the plays that are built around it and it doesn’t look like sen have that
The only team they lost to with that comp is DRG (who are miles better than them and also very very good at Ascent)
Monsteiur [#22]OMG bro kaplan......If it is not working, STOP. This is champions, instead of overcooking with these comps, how about you focus on having your players play to their strength. If the team is coordinated and playing off their win conditions, there would be no need for these deadlock picks.
maybe their Ascent is just that bad and default comp is not working for them anyways so they try to cheese with Deadlock
Denjisideals [#24]It's just sad. He is not a bad coach but some of his decisions are ones I cannot defend. He tries but sometimes trying is not enough. Change needs to be done.
you think SEN should kick Kaplan?
ButterflyEffect23 [#23]maybe their Ascent is just that bad and default comp is not working for them anyways so they try to cheese with Deadlock
If the default comp doesn’t work for them, i don’t think there is any hope for the deadlock comp
ButterflyEffect23 [#23]maybe their Ascent is just that bad and default comp is not working for them anyways so they try to cheese with Deadlock
Also, I think Zellsis should have been the one on the deadlock, not john
Monsteiur [#26]If the default comp doesn’t work for them, i don’t think there is any hope for the deadlock comp
real
nobody___100 [#2]having problems on defense ascent with two sentinels is atrocious
actually they have 5 sentinels
Upstander123 [#7]I think there's only like 3 teams total running this comp in t1 val, wdym everyone else
Lev, fnc, and sen yea?
nobody___100 [#2]having problems on defense ascent with two sentinels is atrocious
2 sentinels doesn't = better defense... A kayo with A main info and retake flashes is a way better defensive agent.
Asokra [#34]2 sentinels doesn't = better defense... A kayo with A main info and retake flashes is a way better defensive agent.
yes i agree, see #13. my point was that the justification for having 2 sentinels is a better defense half, which sen didn't have.
Monsteiur [#27]Also, I think Zellsis should have been the one on the deadlock, not john
john doesnt play off of his deadlock trips on defence
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