zekken is the obvious better jett, but he cant op. you think tenz could deadass play jett on ascent, bc of how op heavy it is?
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nihso [#3]No he can play omen op just fine like he does on other maps
yeah but jett + op on ascent is hella broken. zekken is also known to be pretty solid on sova
JMZxp [#2]Sad to see TenZ get downgraded to Smokes
Tragic
7/8
Comment might seem normal at first, but has diction that makes it seem like Tenz isn't as good of a player anymore (with the use of the term "downgraded" and "tragic"). Not a bad bait, keep it up buddy, you're doing numbers out here.
ctabust [#5]yeah but jett + op on ascent is hella broken. zekken is also known to be pretty solid on sova
omen + op wouldnt be too different. also dont make sacy play anything else other than info initiator other if you want to kill the team. look at 2023
jawn [#11]you lose a lot of value throwing the most mechanically skilled player in your squad to die
this
jawn [#11]you lose a lot of value throwing the most mechanically skilled player in your squad to die
IM saying , its hard being zekken
jawn [#11]you lose a lot of value throwing the most mechanically skilled player in your squad to die
Zekken is more mechanically skilled tho
nihso [#9]omen + op wouldnt be too different. also dont make sacy play anything else other than info initiator other if you want to kill the team. look at 2023
no it's completely different. If you don't have an instant get away on op it's usually not worth it. There's a reason basically no team does it.
ctabust [#5]yeah but jett + op on ascent is hella broken. zekken is also known to be pretty solid on sova
nah bro u got sacy on the team no way u putting zekken on sova
Uncleben [#14]Zekken is more mechanically skilled tho
no he’s not. he’s a better entry sure, mechanics go to TenZ
zekken is close second though
it goes tenz> zekken > johnqt > sacy/zellsis
ctabust [#5]yeah but jett + op on ascent is hella broken. zekken is also known to be pretty solid on sova
weird thing to say about zekken sova. Sacy is not playing a different agent (unless were going back to dephh sen). Zekken is also known to be very good on Kayo and him and zellsis are decent on Omen so either him or zellsis could flex
jawn [#16]no he is not, although he is a close second
in your opinion,
#1 TenZ
#2 Zekken
#3 Johnqt(?)
FrenchToast [#6]Tenz is the better jett and oper
zekken is the better razelots of people want zekken to be the main duelist but i wouldn’t be opposed to an xset, eg kind of system on jett and raze maps
he is not the better jett
AltonBu02 [#15]no it's completely different. If you don't have an instant get away on op it's usually not worth it. There's a reason basically no team does it.
then dont take risky angles and instead play angles where you can tp out
jawn [#16]no he is not, although he is a close second
Why is tenz more mechanically skilled than Zekken? What’s the evidence? Pretty sure Zekken has similar aim labs scores and is better in ranked
JMZxp [#2]Sad to see TenZ get downgraded to Smokes
Tragic
some of the best players in the world moved off duelist to help their team and still perform well. the fact he still performs well on omen and stuff is a testament to his skill. think tenz, alfa, leaf, tex, etc.
Uncleben [#25]Why is tenz more mechanically skilled than Zekken? What’s the evidence? Pretty sure Zekken has similar aim labs scores and is better in ranked
eye-test and peer recongition, and your evidence is fucking ranked lol
Uncleben [#25]Why is tenz more mechanically skilled than Zekken? What’s the evidence? Pretty sure Zekken has similar aim labs scores and is better in ranked
aim labs dont mean shit
jawn [#27]eye-test and peer recongition, and your evidence is fucking ranked lol
You’ve literally provided less evidence than me, and yes ranked is a great piece of evidence comparatively
No pro player has ever said that Zekken is worse than tenz or that tenz is the best pro mechanically…they have both been praised for insane mechanics
Eye test is bs… my eye test tells me Zekken hits cleaner shots and is more consistent
Uncleben [#29]You’ve literally provided less evidence than me, and yes ranked is a great piece of evidence comparatively
No pro player has ever said that Zekken is worse than tenz or that tenz is the best pro mechanically…they have both been praised for insane mechanics
Eye test is bs… my eye test tells me Zekken hits cleaner shots and is more consistent
you consistently have the absolute worst takes i have seen on this site, fix your fucking eyes
AltonBu02 [#22]he is not the better jett
They both have there flaws, Zekken is a mid CT jett but his aggro T side and insane aim diffs Tenz T sided jett, while tenz CT Jett clears, Its just easier for them to set zekken up then it is tenz tbh
JMZxp [#2]Sad to see TenZ get downgraded to Smokes
Tragic
It's not sad or tragic. He just moved with the meta. Better to do that than stay on Duelist just to fall off the team.
JMZxp [#2]Sad to see TenZ get downgraded to Smokes
Tragic
Not tragic at all, he was suck at duelist for 2024 standarts.
He finded himself at smoker role, that he is being very good.
mxchelxz [#17]nah bro u got sacy on the team no way u putting zekken on sova
Os gringo quer mandar o Sacy embora.
Deixa ele, nôs pegamos o sacy de volta, bota com o Aspas e espancamos eles no champions dnv 🤭
jawn [#30]you consistently have the absolute worst takes i have seen on this site, fix your fucking eyes
Dawg please don’t get so offended over valorant
You made a contentious point, now being ur evidence
Don’t cry 😂
Prasinos [#35]Os gringo quer mandar o Sacy embora.
Deixa ele, nôs pegamos o sacy de volta, bota com o Aspas e espancamos eles no champions dnv 🤭
falta um sacy fazendo a ditadura no time, assim seremos campeoes dnv.
AltonBu02 [#22]he is not the better jett
nah tenz as a jett is def better but he isn't an entry player
Uncleben [#36]Dawg please don’t get so offended over valorant
You made a contentious point, now being ur evidence
Don’t cry 😂
no if u compare pure mechanics then tenz is better ,like aim wise and stuff. But zekken has better movement and crosshair placement than tenz. Tenz plays the game on hard mode for some reason i don't get it. His style of aim is purely u know just aim and reaction. Zekken and most other players are more consistent cause they play more standard aim ,u know crosshair placement and stuff and rely more on those which is way more consistent.
WalmartTenz [#39]There's no one on the team that is good at omen other than Tenz on Sen
yea he's really become good at omen i am pleasantly surprised
Ausam [#40]no if u compare pure mechanics then tenz is better ,like aim wise and stuff. But zekken has better movement and crosshair placement than tenz. Tenz plays the game on hard mode for some reason i don't get it. His style of aim is purely u know just aim and reaction. Zekken and most other players are more consistent cause they play more standard aim ,u know crosshair placement and stuff and rely more on those which is way more consistent.
I dont even disagree, but I want to know why you believe that tenz has better aim than Zekken
No pro has said this
Their aim lab scores are similar
Zekken is a more consistent in ranked and pro play
Eye test is also fairly even
I just want to know why tenz is said to be better than Zekken aim wise
Uncleben [#42]I dont even disagree, but I want to know why you believe that tenz has better aim than Zekken
No pro has said this
Their aim lab scores are similar
Zekken is a more consistent in ranked and pro play
Eye test is also fairly even
I just want to know why tenz is said to be better than Zekken aim wise
it's fairly simple, the sheer amount of times we have seen tenz solo hold an entire area of the map with a pixel angle, how many unassisted 1v1s he wins, zekken and tenz both hit most shots but tenz hits harder shots at a much greater frequency while also having slightly better gunfight hygiene and movement
AltonBu02 [#8]7/8
Comment might seem normal at first, but has diction that makes it seem like Tenz isn't as good of a player anymore (with the use of the term "downgraded" and "tragic"). Not a bad bait, keep it up buddy, you're doing numbers out here.
he sucked ass at the duelist role, what can we say?
Ausam [#38]nah tenz as a jett is def better but he isn't an entry player
then he's not the better jett. To be a good jett you need to be able to entry well and Tenz has stated multiple times that he doesn't feel comfortable doing so while zekken has shown that he can without a problem.
Kxtqqh [#45]he sucked ass at the duelist role, what can we say?
he was good only reason I would say he was worse overall at the duelist role (even jett) than zekken was due to the fact that he wasn't comfortable at entrying for his team.
jawn [#44]it's fairly simple, the sheer amount of times we have seen tenz solo hold an entire area of the map with a pixel angle, how many unassisted 1v1s he wins, zekken and tenz both hit most shots but tenz hits harder shots at a much greater frequency while also having slightly better gunfight hygiene and movement
Solo holding a pixel angle is down to reaction time and crosshair placement, and Zekken clearly has better cross hair placement than tenz while tenz has better reaction time.
In terms of gunfight hygiene, tenz isn’t better, they simply have different styles; when it comes to spraying or strafing, tenz tends to strafe a fair bit while Zekken likes to spray, but both are good at their styles, but I have seen tenz and Zekken whiff the same amount.
Zekken consistently hits more shots and puts up comparable numbers to tenz on Jett (at least recently) while outfragging him on raze. Tenz hitting a few pixel angle shots does not make him a better aimer, that’s just a flashy shot and Zekken hits regular shots with greater consistency. I personally believe demon1 is a better aimer than both of them, though that’s up to debate.
Uncleben [#50]Solo holding a pixel angle is down to reaction time and crosshair placement, and Zekken clearly has better cross hair placement than tenz while tenz has better reaction time.
In terms of gunfight hygiene, tenz isn’t better, they simply have different styles; when it comes to spraying or strafing, tenz tends to strafe a fair bit while Zekken likes to spray, but both are good at their styles, but I have seen tenz and Zekken whiff the same amount.Zekken consistently hits more shots and puts up comparable numbers to tenz on Jett (at least recently) while outfragging him on raze. Tenz hitting a few pixel angle shots does not make him a better aimer, that’s just a flashy shot and Zekken hits regular shots with greater consistency. I personally believe demon1 is a better aimer than both of them, though that’s up to debate.
tenz can hit every shot zekken can, zekken can't hit every shot tenz can
jawn [#51]tenz can hit every shot zekken can, zekken can't hit every shot tenz can
Tenz can hit every shot Zekken can but he doesn’t hit it as often as Zekken does, so….
Also marved and yay too hold angles way better than tenz, but clearly they aren’t better aimers than him; holding angles comes down to xhair placement and reaction time
Tenz does have the best reaction time in the pro scene imo
groomer [#7]Putting tenz on jett in 2024 is not a smart idea
nah tenz is great with jett, but he just doesn't like to entry
AloneSolstice [#48]Tenz doesn’t want to play entry roles. Zekkens op has been getting better.
I agree with half of what you said. Zekkens op has not been getting better lol.
Ballsamolee [#53]nah tenz is great with jett, but he just doesn't like to entry
issue: jett is an entry character
Hynix [#55]issue: jett is an entry character
yeah exactly. he is good, but he doesn't want to play jett on attack. he likes playing jett on defense tho
Uncleben [#52]Tenz can hit every shot Zekken can but he doesn’t hit it as often as Zekken does, so….
Also marved and yay too hold angles way better than tenz, but clearly they aren’t better aimers than him; holding angles comes down to xhair placement and reaction time
Tenz does have the best reaction time in the pro scene imo
Also marved and yay too hold angles way better than tenz
no
holding angles comes down to xhair placement and reaction time
a literal aspect of aiming and mechanics
he doesn’t hit it as often as Zekken does
a blatant lie, it just seems so because zekken gets fed all the utility to give him opportunites to get favorable fights(rightfully so he's a duelist)
a 50/50 fight for zekken is a 60/40 fight for tenz, it's plain and simple
AltonBu02 [#46]then he's not the better jett. To be a good jett you need to be able to entry well and Tenz has stated multiple times that he doesn't feel comfortable doing so while zekken has shown that he can without a problem.
no ur right,I was tryna say as a jett player, like aggro. Zekken is a good entry but not really aggro, he's not like a spearhead for the team but more like someone that entry's. Aspas is like a perfect jett.
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