Less > Alfajer???

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sentinelmain377

idk anymore.

Alfajer - good for 3 years (2022, 2023, 2024) >> Less - good for 2 years (2022, 2023)
Alfajer 2 trophies >> Less 1 trophies
Alfajer 2-1 Less:
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3/?game=all&tab=performance
Alfajer went +1 against Less.
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https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
Alfajer went +2 against Less.
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https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
Less went +3 against Alfajer
Alfajer can flex more agents
Less 2-1 in series against Alfajer
Less 3 finals >> Alfajer 2 finals

Alfajer wins 4 - 2 Less

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i guess nAts is still clears both

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true. he has just been on a shit team all this time. but suygetsu has also been good since 2021 (even when he was on ForZe)

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suygetsu is mid

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nats done nothing for years bro. its been 2 years since he's been in any top 4 of internationals + he's not done well regionally in Emea anymore either for a while.

Alfajer clears

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Nats is the EU equivalent of TenZ before SEN won Madrid. Good back in the farmer days and people still act like he’s the goat while he continues to do nothing lmao

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Give him a good team like tenz got and you’ll be seeing prime nAts real quick

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what can he do if hes stuck in a team that does not even activate him, that does not do anything for him, they say that they are ''rebuilding'' based off him and then they dont even get a russian teamate. no sheydos when he was available, no zeddy when he was available, no trexx when he was available. team liquid IS the perfect place if you want to ruin talents. nAts's tech and mech are so good. and yet he has to igl because the igl that they pickd didnt work. his kd hasnt been good because they got stomped on almost every game, not for his fault. if you see he almost never went negative in team liquid games, even when they were losing very hard his play is good, his ability to make a good KAST and to not die generally without baiting is impressive. he just needs a team

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Re-read my statement but consider that I wasn't shit talking nats, but instead maybe even complimenting him. all of what you said is true, which would lead to him having a tenz like resurgence.

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goated response, my bad for the paragraph LMAO

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nah all good man I can definitely see how it looked like i was shitting on him a little, poor wording by me

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happens

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fun fact: less has more international game wins than all of fnc this year

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Against edg and fpx like comon bro stop it

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and how many international games did fnc win this year?

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stop acting like fpx is bad

https://www.vlr.gg/348061/funplus-phoenix-vs-fut-esports-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/348468/fut-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr1

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11-3 still hurts? Unluckyy

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answer my question, how many international games has fnc won this year? has to be more than less right?

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sentinelmain377

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are u sped? pls go help yourself if you cant have a single logical conversation...

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BulkyLettuce

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im asking a simple question, grow up and give me an answer

going straight to insults tells me you lost

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sentinelmain377

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get help.

you are not a human lmao.

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BulkyLettuce

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answer my question, why are you dodging?

how many international games has fnc won this year? has to be more than less right?

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This guy actually told you to grow up and this is the shit he's saying 😭😭😭
I can't dude this is too good. He thinks that he's roasted and toasted you if he can get you to say FNC have won 0 of 2 internationals 🤣

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if your response to a question is straight insults it shows immaturity and they need to grow up and take their own advice

pls go help yourself if you cant have a single logical conversation

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Kind of a dumbass comparison, really doesn't prove anything other than you're butt hurt

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to be fair...
https://www.vlr.gg/348061/funplus-phoenix-vs-fut-esports-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/348468/fut-esports-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr1

and if Tuyz didn't mess up a plant on icebox they had a really good chance of beating Geng at madrid

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FPX was a different team in Shanghai tho:

look how close this game was (against GENG, the best team, btw)
https://www.vlr.gg/348458/funplus-phoenix-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r2/?game=170770&tab=overview

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yeah but the FPX at Madrid was basically performing identically to Fnatic at the time, based off how they did vs KC

https://www.vlr.gg/303094/fnatic-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff-playoffs-sf/?game=160739&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/312765/karmine-corp-vs-funplus-phoenix-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r1/?game=162326&tab=overview

both got 13-10'd on Lotus and 13-8'd on the other

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you do know that KC and TH 's first international games ever (for the young players) was at Madrid. ofc it would be somewhat close.

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Yuh_aye

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and??? im not sure how that relates to any of the points made?

FPX performed virtually identically to FNC against KC, then Loud beat FPX.

If KC being young has anything to do with that, surely the same applies for KC vs FNC where they were younger

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KC is used to VCT emea environment and like small crowd tho. Bigger crowd, international match is way different.

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Yuh_aye

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ehh, fair enough i guess

At the end of the day, both had respectable matches vs Geng

but beating FPX ( a solid team) > anything that FNC did internationally this year

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fun fact: paper rex went to 2 international finals and lost both

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no one is talking about prx, keep deflecting

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geng clears

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PRX international game wins this year: 4
FNC international game wins this year: 0

😂😂😂😂😂

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jonny05

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SUYGETSUUU

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laeDLaer

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AIMS, THE RESET. ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUSSSS

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jonny05

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prime suygetsu was so good

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FNC trophies: Lock//In Trophy, Masters Tokyo
Prx trophies: 🦗

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0 trophy region

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BulkyLettuce

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??? we literally won this year

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nah hes still clear

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amedy

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youre crazy. less is still goated

not his fault that hes on a dysfunctional team

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JustHunterM8

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Who cares? Anyone with a brain can tell these guys are neck and neck

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Yuh_aye

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Less hard gapped him all three times

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was alfajer good in 22 and 24? dude won nothing

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sentinelmain377

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bro didnt watch any FNATIC game in 2022 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

he was the best player easily and went INSANE in EMEA 2022 (when EMEA was actually a good region) + he was good internationally as well

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what? regional farm league is nothing

less was top 3 in 22 and 23 and diffed alfajer all the times they played

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https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3/?game=all&tab=performance
Alfajer went +1 against Less.

https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
Alfajer went +2 against Less.

https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance
Less went +3 against Alfajer

Alfajer 2-1 diffed Less.

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who tf cares about h2h. Less had a way better game and rating in ALL of them. If u think tieing with less in h2h is a diff. Then you may need to get an education

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BRO POSTING KILL +- LMAO I CANT

Sao Paulo 1.20 vs 0.97
Champs 1 1.23 vs 1.06
Champs 2 1.14 vs 0.80

Less 3-0

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sentinelmain377

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not FNC's fault that LOUD instantly bombed out of Tokyo so that FNC couldnt face LOUD...

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JustHunterM8

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Why does this matter so much to you bro ☠️

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and less has done that and more lmao

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Sometimes Less is More

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sentinelmain377

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Less > Alfajer in 2022.
Alfajer > Less in 2023.
Alfajer > Less in 2024.

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less is top 5 in playoff stats + won champs in 2022
less had ~~less~~ trophies than alfa yeah doesn't mean he was a worse player, had a better form by the end
less still keeps his form all year long despite loud shitting the bed

being more flashy doesn't mean he's better

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laeDLaer

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Alfa was insane in 2022 but Derke was still better let’s no forget he was a top 3 chamber player

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Nah

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Alfajer only good in 23

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Alfajer was never bad and he is humble + he can flex more

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No. But I also don't think that this game represents LOUD at all. 100T lost to FURIA and now they beat LOUD 13-1?
You almost can't tell what will happen anymore. Less is still a great player.

But Alfajer is the best Sentinel and there is a reason why players like TenZ, FNS, Boostio etc. name Alfajer as one of the best players in the world.

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no way you got all your alts online just to prove a nonexistent point 😭😭 insane work

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sentinelmain377

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i dont have alts lmao (not a loser). why are you making stuff up man.

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meteor clears both

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less clears

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yes finally a fucking user wiht a brain

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

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But you didn't count champs trophies

1 champs trophy > 1 Micky mouse + 1 masters

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plus 1

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LOCK//IN = 0.75 Masters
TOKYO = 1 Masters

Alfajer = 1.75

CHAMPS = 1.33 Masters

Less = 1.33

Alfajer 1.75 > Less 1.33

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LESS>>>