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#1
noubbi

Even with the loss to Talon, which happened bc Primmie carried and not bc Talon were tactically superior, I’d still say this team is doing good except for quite a few things:

1) Jremy - As good as he is, he is not a Jett player. He is okay at it but not at the level of what his Raze is.

There are a couple of players who in Philippine Tier 2 that I find to be cracked i.e. PatrickWatson that are really good on both Jett and Raze that TS really need to keep tabs on. Other players include Zeus and tomix although I haven’t watched their actual games yet.

2) JessieVash - People like to clown on uncle for being in the team only because of his relationship with TS manager (which I haven’t actually confirmed if true, pls enlighten me), but he is not the main problem of this team. Uncle carries at times, which might show a picture on how the rest of the team is underperforming. Although he does like to ego peak people without his team like wtf.

3) 2ge - He is good but PapiChulo. Not much to say. I know he is an IGL but he can still slot in with this team with Uncle calling.

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thisisjustforpickems
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team just needs a new roster entirely only keep jremy in my opinion. (also yes jessie is in fact in a relationship with the manager and have a child)

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talon were tactically and mechanically superior

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Jremy is the youngest player on the team I don't get why his spot is jeopardized, he was their best player vs TLN

Only 2ge and Vash should be kicked

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The Jessie and manager situation is a bit messed up honestly cause who would put a married couple with a child in a professional environment especially with one person being a manager that has decisions for roster changes and the other one who is the IGL which essential has the most power in the team since there are no superstars in PH Valorant. Feels like they have control over everything just from their 2 positions. Idk just feels weird to me.

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koromast
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-jessie +papichulo
move wild to ini and papichulo on sentinel (he can play controller in some maps with 2ge on viper)

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noubbi
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thisisjustforpickems [#2]

team just needs a new roster entirely only keep jremy in my opinion. (also yes jessie is in fact in a relationship with the manager and have a child)

I don’t think Jremy should be kicked (I forgot to mention it in my post my bad) but I do think someone needs to fill in a Jett role, and Jremy still on Raze. Jremy has played a lot of Senti before so I think this should be considered by the coaching staff. I’m just not convinced he is an X-factor on Jett

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"which happened bc Primmie carried and not bc Talon were tactically superior" bro did not watch the games that's for sure

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Blue_Iced_Tea
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laifu [#4]

Jremy is the youngest player on the team I don't get why his spot is jeopardized, he was their best player vs TLN

Only 2ge and Vash should be kicked

Ppl need to see Jessie isn’t the problem, he still got the most picks and the best fk/fdr

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Jremy????????
He is actually high level Tier1 player, and cannot be replaced by other Duelist.
2GE→Papichulo is absolutely good.

In that case, I think they could bring in a better sentinel from Tier 2 than Wild0reoo. Nexi, JA, and xavi8k is good option.
If you are afraid of Jremy's jett, JA will be able to use jett and sentinel.

#11
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SiwooHaechok [#5]

The Jessie and manager situation is a bit messed up honestly cause who would put a married couple with a child in a professional environment especially with one person being a manager that has decisions for roster changes and the other one who is the IGL which essential has the most power in the team since there are no superstars in PH Valorant. Feels like they have control over everything just from their 2 positions. Idk just feels weird to me.

Again and again Yam(jessie's wife) is not responsible for roster changes. She only does the out of game stuff like getting visas and getting papers signed. The American and European executives are the ones making those roster decisions with the input of the coach and igl.

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noubbi
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teilwal [#3]

talon were tactically and mechanically superior

I disagree on this take. The two maps were really close and if weren’t for Primmie fragging the shit out of every TS player, Talon would have lost.

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Patrick watson duelist
Jremy switches to flex/sentinel( can also raze if they require double duelist)
Invy still sticks with initiator but becomes IGL
2ge Wild0reoo stays the same
Jessievash either stays with the roster or transition to coach

Aside from patrick watson, what TS really needs is a guy to hype them up and give them good vibes. They always look so tense when in high pressure situations. They couldve won that talon game if they didn't choke those 2 pistol rounds

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KssS [#11]

Again and again Yam(jessie's wife) is not responsible for roster changes. She only does the out of game stuff like getting visas and getting papers signed. The American and European executives are the ones making those roster decisions with the input of the coach and igl.

Owhhh that seems alright then

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noubbi
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"which happened bc Primmie carried and not bc Talon were tactically superior" bro did not watch the games that's for sure

I did watch the games. And if you did, you’d realize that even with TS losing ALL pistols (again with most of them bc Primmie is just good not only on pistols but even on full buy rounds where you can always guarantee him getting multi kills), they still went 11-13 on both maps.

#16
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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Cuckret need to fix their attack keke

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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Echo_fox [#10]

Jremy????????
He is actually high level Tier1 player, and cannot be replaced by other Duelist.
2GE→Papichulo is absolutely good.

In that case, I think they could bring in a better sentinel from Tier 2 than Wild0reoo. Nexi, JA, and xavi8k is good option.
If you are afraid of Jremy's jett, JA will be able to use jett and sentinel.

PatrickWatson clears that fraud

#18
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honestly i think, you wouldn't need a lot of changes for the current lineup.

  1. you've got 2 additional fraggers to be with invy and jremy. for the previous iterations of the ts roster, it always felt like you need to have both invy and jremy to be online for them to win. they had to carry the rest. after 2ge and wile0reoo's addition, the team's shooting felt better, that even if jremy is a lil shaky (case in point: split map 3 vs geng where he kept missing the op and his satchels), there's at least another to back you up, not only with utility, but with fragging.

  2. they now have a wider agent pool and can rotate roles as necessary. my biggest problem with the old rosters was that they obviously were not comfy playing around the relatively new agents. the current one can now play with a gekko in the comp (icebox vs t1). oreoo being another flex gives them a lil freedom to move vash to a sentinel, who has been a little subpar on flash initiators. this switch has produced somehow good results, at least if you look at their win rate on split, which isnt a map they prioritize picking. (no do not count lotus)

  3. as much as i still am not a fan of vash, i have to give him credit for the times he is fragging while IGL-ing. and if former coaches such as warbirds vouches for vash's calling and shooting, then i can live with him staying. i'd rather someone with the experience stays as the IGL than transitioning to someone who never touched the role, and eventually performs worse that they usually do.

  4. vibes merchant? if you've seen their comms vids, oreo was their hypeman after losing to bleed 1 map despite being so dominant in the first half of that map. vash, jremy, and invy were visibly gloomy, but oreo (and 2GE) were there, tryign to tell them, it's okay, we can win. last night, even after the tln loss, oreoo went on stream, joking around in ranked with 2ge (they did lose a ranked game 11-13 again tho haha)

  5. the only change prolly, is that they add a mix of a asst coach/mental coach/analyst to be with dummy. their playbook for attacking hasn't been well polished that it loses them a lot of rounds even if they were able to bank on a huge lead on defending. (man, i still wonder how warbirds + dummy combo would have gotten us in stage 2)

i think they have good chemistry now, and they'd have better synergy the more they stick around together. they do need to learn how to play around their 6-man roster tho, especially if ndg would stick around for next season too.

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noyaju [#18]

honestly i think, you wouldn't need a lot of changes for the current lineup.

  1. you've got 2 additional fraggers to be with invy and jremy. for the previous iterations of the ts roster, it always felt like you need to have both invy and jremy to be online for them to win. they had to carry the rest. after 2ge and wile0reoo's addition, the team's shooting felt better, that even if jremy is a lil shaky (case in point: split map 3 vs geng where he kept missing the op and his satchels), there's at least another to back you up, not only with utility, but with fragging.

  2. they now have a wider agent pool and can rotate roles as necessary. my biggest problem with the old rosters was that they obviously were not comfy playing around the relatively new agents. the current one can now play with a gekko in the comp (icebox vs t1). oreoo being another flex gives them a lil freedom to move vash to a sentinel, who has been a little subpar on flash initiators. this switch has produced somehow good results, at least if you look at their win rate on split, which isnt a map they prioritize picking. (no do not count lotus)

  3. as much as i still am not a fan of vash, i have to give him credit for the times he is fragging while IGL-ing. and if former coaches such as warbirds vouches for vash's calling and shooting, then i can live with him staying. i'd rather someone with the experience stays as the IGL than transitioning to someone who never touched the role, and eventually performs worse that they usually do.

  4. vibes merchant? if you've seen their comms vids, oreo was their hypeman after losing to bleed 1 map despite being so dominant in the first half of that map. vash, jremy, and invy were visibly gloomy, but oreo (and 2GE) were there, tryign to tell them, it's okay, we can win. last night, even after the tln loss, oreoo went on stream, joking around in ranked with 2ge (they did lose a ranked game 11-13 again tho haha)

  5. the only change prolly, is that they add a mix of a asst coach/mental coach/analyst to be with dummy. their playbook for attacking hasn't been well polished that it loses them a lot of rounds even if they were able to bank on a huge lead on defending. (man, i still wonder how warbirds + dummy combo would have gotten us in stage 2)

i think they have good chemistry now, and they'd have better synergy the more they stick around together. they do need to learn how to play around their 6-man roster tho, especially if ndg would stick around for next season too.

I agree that flipping the entire roster is not the answer right now. This roster iteration has only been formed by more or less 3 months but were looking like one of the top dogs in Pacific. However, I still think that they could’ve pick a proper agents for their player on some maps (like on lotus yesterday). Vash should’ve been the Sova, Invy on Skye, and Oreo on Cypher, they could’ve taken lotus with this. Also, having Papichulo is the only best upgrade that they can do without affecting the chemistry of the team, but I don’t think that Naos will release him when they have a chance on Ascension

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bronzil_enjoyer
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allat

#21
voxsu
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noubbi [#12]

I disagree on this take. The two maps were really close and if weren’t for Primmie fragging the shit out of every TS player, Talon would have lost.

yeah idk what bro is yapping about even Frost said TS played well enough to win that game in the post game

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noubbi
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laifu [#4]

Jremy is the youngest player on the team I don't get why his spot is jeopardized, he was their best player vs TLN

Only 2ge and Vash should be kicked

I agree Jremy should not be kicked but I also think they should pick up someone else as their Jett

#23
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They lost one match with this roster and y'all are talking about replacements😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

#24
Adli_goblo
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Jremy should not be in duelist, but a senti. TS can pick up ejay duelist and Patmen flex

#25
Cu55Ku55_______
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ncahlil [#23]

They lost one match with this roster and y'all are talking about replacements😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

TS need a roster that are willing to play with different agents (meta and non-meta agents)

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Cu55Ku55_______
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Adli_goblo [#24]

Jremy should not be in duelist, but a senti. TS can pick up ejay duelist and Patmen flex

PatrickWatson?

#27
n1zf
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no one cares about team shitcret, they would've gotten grouped at champs if they made it. useless ahhh team.

you have zekken to represent filipino pride

#28
Cu55Ku55_______
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n1zf [#27]

no one cares about team shitcret, they would've gotten grouped at champs if they made it. useless ahhh team.

you have zekken to represent filipino pride

Zekken is born in America, so he is American.

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ncahlil
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Cu55Ku55_______ [#25]

TS need a roster that are willing to play with different agents (meta and non-meta agents)

They only played for a month. Jessie adjusted to sentinels, jremy played neon, and wild0reoo and invy have been playing different agents depending on their map. Are you fucking dumb? Are they not willing to play different agents at this level? I genuinely think you need to get off this site and get a life tbh.

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Cu55Ku55_______
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ncahlil [#29]

They only played for a month. Jessie adjusted to sentinels, jremy played neon, and wild0reoo and invy have been playing different agents depending on their map. Are you fucking dumb? Are they not willing to play different agents at this level? I genuinely think you need to get off this site and get a life tbh.

Even if they are now willing to play more agents, they still have a lot of things to polish such as their attack rounds, and map picks/vetoes

Assistant coach/Mental coach too

#31
ncahlil
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Cu55Ku55_______ [#30]

Even if they are now willing to play more agents, they still have a lot of things to polish such as their attack rounds, and map picks/vetoes

Assistant coach/Mental coach too

They only played for a month
It's not that hard to read and understand omfg😭
They have the whole off season to work their shit together so give them some time. You don't have to tell them these things, they know better than anyone what to do to fix their shit. Y'all act like you know everything.

#32
munestar
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Cu55Ku55_______ [#28]

Zekken is born in America, so he is American.

ewhy cant zekken be considered both, he doesnt have to be exclusively representing one country lol

#33
laifu
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munestar [#32]

ewhy cant zekken be considered both, he doesnt have to be exclusively representing one country lol

exactly why TS wanted to trial clear, and their HC being american with a filo flag

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i think the roster is good and wouldnt need any changes. what i mean is vash is igl-ing pretty good so far in split 2, wildoreoo is delivering when needed. 2ge has his moments, invy too. i think what was missing from them is a vibe merchant — which they took away in borkum. they also need to be in a better mental state especially that this team is always facing a huge deficit in rounds and that it might get tiring mounting a comeback. this team aint sharp aim-wise but executes are really impressive, starting off split 2 i was hard rooting for them because they were really looking stable 😭

#35
Dybala21
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TS manager is the wife of Jessievash. Nepotism at it finest

#36
Kleinz17
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they just need one duelist player that can dominate and be the X factor like something, zekken, demon1 fuck it we need a "primmie". Jremy has been consistent and does his job as a duelist but thats it. He relies more being set up than being THAT guy who just make plays happen.

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noubbi [#12]

I disagree on this take. The two maps were really close and if weren’t for Primmie fragging the shit out of every TS player, Talon would have lost.

That was the X Factor Talon was talking about

#38
Cu55Ku55_______
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I think they should do a big rebuild, replace everyone, make JessieVash the coach, get 5 Tier 2 players from PH that are Tier 1 ready, get a Filipino coach and an assistant coach which can help their mental.

#39
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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disband keke

#40
x4v
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Kleinz17 [#36]

they just need one duelist player that can dominate and be the X factor like something, zekken, demon1 fuck it we need a "primmie". Jremy has been consistent and does his job as a duelist but thats it. He relies more being set up than being THAT guy who just make plays happen.

yeah and i also think that its because the team is heavily reliant on executes now than they were in champions 2021 where dubstep did some ego peeks and completely turned the tables in their favor. executes seem to be their bread and butter going into franchising. i dont think we have seen anyone from this roster that has an explosive moment like what you were emphasizing but they are still young and i hope they will realize their potential very soon. we all hope to see some t3xture, demon1, zekken —like plays in the future. this team can be really scary at times

#41
Botkiller69
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Jsvash mid calling is shitty asf

#42
GCNYOKLAABTLYGANTAGTARGOT
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#43
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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Cu55Ku55_______ [#38]

I think they should do a big rebuild, replace everyone, make JessieVash the coach, get 5 Tier 2 players from PH that are Tier 1 ready, get a Filipino coach and an assistant coach which can help their mental.

Shitcret fans can't accept the fact that PH just doesn't have that much talent in FPS games

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