Your know your team is cooked if you let Tarathiel drop positive double digit score against you.

It isn’t a life game if they were the only team that handed Xipto a map loss, not once but twice this year. All teams aside from Sisu even had a hard time making a double digit round win against Xipto, while Sisu always made it competitive against the latter.

Horrendous format. These two won’t even get a map against Xipto

Sisu choked pretty bad against MIR with Dorothy on flow. I doubt it would happen again if they faced each other. It sucks because we wont be able to see that due to this shit format.

Its a single elimination brother. No Sea vs Sea sadly

This really sucks for SISU. Imagine being the second strongest team in the tournament but will be eliminated due to format and choke lol

IDK about the Sunset of other region, but TS is arguably the best in Pacific. How well do they fare with other regions sunset (Sen, TH, etc.)?

Icebox has been one of the weaker maps of PRX, especially when compared to playoff teams of Pacific. But IDK how EDG fumbled that map 😅

Will we see a lone Pacific/Korean team stepping up to bring home the trophy?

Makes sense. Also with the way flashback was spraying in and out the game, it might be an easy top 3

Ain’t no way they’re bringing the trophy to Pacific right? 😅

Can’t argue with that; however, Secret have significantly increased their firepower with the addition of Oreo and 2ge. Secret just got damned by element of surprise, but still managed to make the game close. See how it turned out when other teams gained info against Primmie, Talon got dismantled and its not even close

That’s the only map weakness of Secret, well you can add lotus but leviathan has been banning that map for a while. With that I don’t think we would lose to any other map especially on Sunset and Icebox. Even in Ascent and haven TS will perform great, as both of these maps we’re the maps that apac teams hesitated to give to TS in a decider. Given also that these maps have a high win rate for TS during 2023, while also being undefeated in ascent

Or are we just understimating APAC’s prowess in general? With how shit Leviathan played Talon, Im confident we could’ve placed in playoffs. We only got suprised by Primmie bro

That’s the point, brother!

As i’ve said before, Talon will lose horribly in champs, especially if Primmie is on offday. Secret would’ve represented APAC better if they didn’t choke. Secret would’ve 2-0 both Vitality and Leviathan

I said Boba wouldn’t even get 15 rounds but damn they setting the bar low

RRQ and TS would even qualify in that region

The team is doing better now. Imma agree with changing the roster if TS lost several times with this player interation, However Secret just lost (closely both 11-13) because of element of surprise.

Primmie Heroic rounds and bad switching of agents between oreo, invy, and vash on lotus.

Props for them because they really gambled with that move. It really surprised TS as they don’t know how Talon would play around Primmie. Its just sad that TS became the stepping stone for Pacific teams to actually figure out Primmie and Talon. I think Talon will become a really dangerous team in 2025, but I swear that they will never beat a well prepared TS next year

They just study TS and expected to be shat on by other teams 🤷‍♂️

Bros going for Lyze’s Crown

At this point Talon will just be Primmie Esports and will gonna get crushed by other teams in Champs, expect another 13-0 specially when Primmie is on offday. This team doesn’t know how to win against top teams and will get 0 wins in august. Team Secret would do better in representing Pacific since they are a “Giant Slayer” but can’t blame Talon when Secret always choke to mid tier teams.

Not the better team. But Primmie is beast ngl

Might as well accompany me

If TS only prepared for the Top teams. Then Talon only prepared to anti-strat secret the whole year and get shitted on by other contenders.

I agree that flipping the entire roster is not the answer right now. This roster iteration has only been formed by more or less 3 months but were looking like one of the top dogs in Pacific. However, I still think that they could’ve pick a proper agents for their player on some maps (like on lotus yesterday). Vash should’ve been the Sova, Invy on Skye, and Oreo on Cypher, they could’ve taken lotus with this. Also, having Papichulo is the only best upgrade that they can do without affecting the chemistry of the team, but I don’t think that Naos will release him when they have a chance on Ascension

The Steve Kerr of Valorant Lol. Even warbirds was better than that fraud

I would love that but its kinda impossible for now. At this points OAS/NAOS winning ascension is our only hope to increase our chance of qualifying at masters and champs

Prior to 2024 Bleed we’re really looking good and may have been the best SEA team after PRX. The circumstances just didn’t really favor them

SBE was better than TS. They could’ve been the ascension team if they didn’t disbanded, they were going back and forth against bleed at every 3rd party Lan. Azys, Ja, and Papichulo would’ve smash every team in the pacific not named PRX

I’m still regretting supporting Xia and Sscary on that 2v5 clutch against Bleed trailing 9-12 on the 3rd Map. We could’ve crush Bleed on LF and qualify at copenhagen and possibly Champs Istanbul.

At this moment I’m really blaming the 1v5 choke of TS against Ban on stage 1. At least we could’ve a chance to qualify if DRX win against TLN

Who would be his replacement? I mean on eye test he is our only player that is good at entry duelist. His raze is one of the best in the Pacific

At this point we only have Bini to be proud for

They have the same points while having the head to head advantage

Its really sad to always see TS at the brink of qualifying then never fails to choke

Vash fragging is a bad sign for TS everytime

What’s new? Talon/Xia has been owning Team Secret since time immemorial to qualify at international Lan.

Best initiator of Pacific rn is Invy

Then Gen.G will automatically qualify to champs whether they have placement or not as they have the highest points.

Imagine how crazy it would be if 3 sea teams are in Top 3. GG DRX I guess.

Jremy Ace

Buddy had enough of the copium. Nonetheless, Lyze is our lucky charm

Buddy acting like PRX didnt lose against TS this year

Yeah. Im rooting for TS and RRQ as although they were beaten by Talon, these 2 teams are capable on performing at significantly higher level than Talon. TS And RRQ might be inconsistent, but their highest-high makes them more valuable in International stage than other teams consistent but mid performance.

I agree. Since they are already guaranteed to champs whether they win stage 2 or not, might as well try to rest the team to avoid burnout. I wanna see 3 sea teams in champs this year. Not rooting for DRX as they’re weaker than RRQ or TS rn, and also for letting Stax Go.

Not necessarily. I mean not winning a map is much more boring TBH, if your gonna lose might as well make it more entertaining, right?

If RRQ lose in the single elimination, then yes.