Bringing team achievements and trophies(only valid if IGL) to a player comparison.
What does TENZ's trophies and S0M's trophies have to do with player comparisons.
Its like bringing up trophies when comparing ZELLSIS(flex) to FORSAKEN(flex). We all know forsaken 100x the player zellsis can even dream to be of.
InNOut_Burger [#4]zellsis isnt actually that much worse than forsaken lmao i dont understand why zellsis gets so massively underrated, hes very consistent for SEN and only plays bad when the rest of the team is too.
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FrenchToast [#6]tenz went 10-5 against s0m and 8-1 against ethan
he could solve world hunger and you people would still say he’s not doing enough lmao
??? are you illiterate? No body is calling tenz horrible or not doing enough for sentinels wtf, s0m is 100% better than him though!??
smthlikeyou11 [#3]tenz also has 2x the amount of games and time spent playing than som
FNS has even more, is he the goat?
FrenchToast [#6]tenz went 10-5 against s0m and 8-1 against ethan
he could solve world hunger and you people would still say he’s not doing enough lmao
h2h means literally nothing, tenz was 2/6 against xeppa kkkkkk
drktype [#7]??? are you illiterate? No body is calling tenz horrible or not doing enough for sentinels wtf, s0m is 100% better than him though!??
tenz is so much better
drktype [#7]??? are you illiterate? No body is calling tenz horrible or not doing enough for sentinels wtf, s0m is 100% better than him though!??
he went 10-5 against s0m and you’re saying s0m is better. are you sure YOURE not illiterate?
InNOut_Burger [#4]zellsis isnt actually that much worse than forsaken lmao i dont understand why zellsis gets so massively underrated, hes very consistent for SEN and only plays bad when the rest of the team is too.
And this is why SEN fans are delusional
FrenchToast [#6]tenz went 10-5 against s0m and 8-1 against ethan
he could solve world hunger and you people would still say he’s not doing enough lmao
And tenz went negative against FNS
FNS > tenz??
hemmy [#12]And this is why SEN fans are delusional
Where’s forsakens vct win? How many times has choked?
uwukitten [#9]h2h means literally nothing, tenz was 2/6 against xeppa kkkkkk
they won’t believe their own logic when it’s used against them unfortunately
peaced [#15]they won’t believe their own logic when it’s used against them unfortunately
it's actually amazing how stupid they are, like at least other annoying fanbases like navi/fnatic are mostly baiters but sen fans are mostly just idiots
uwukitten [#17]it's actually amazing how stupid they are, like at least other annoying fanbases like navi/fnatic are mostly baiters but sen fans are mostly just idiots
It was probably the first and still is the most obvious thing I realized when I joined this site, a lot of them aren’t trolling and it upsets me
TheAceGamer30 [#14]Where’s forsakens vct win? How many times has choked?
forsaken still clears zellsis tho
hemmy [#12]And this is why SEN fans are delusional
i didnt say zellsis is better. im saying the gap between them isnt as great as OP is implying. theyre both extremely solid flex players for two of the best teams in the world. obviously forsaken has better mechs but zellsis is clear of him in other areas as well
TheAceGamer30 [#14]Where’s forsakens vct win? How many times has choked?
prx wouldn't make a final with zellsis
InNOut_Burger [#10]tenz is so much better
they both play differently lol, id say s0m is the better overall controller yes. I think tenz is the better player tho lmao. its not even close in that aspect.
btw zellsis currently 4:0 forsaken +he also has a master title unlike forsaken
no idea why ya think he is so much worse that forsaken lol
1.https://www.vlr.gg/167353/cloud9-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-ro16
he owns forsaken sry
StalwartTiger_35 [#22]prx wouldn't make a final with zellsis
ok? Zellsis literally doesn’t play like prx at all so no shit Sherlock
Shawn23 [#24]they both play differently lol, id say s0m is the better overall controller yes. I think tenz is the better player tho lmao. its not even close in that aspect.
Yes but tenz omen clears s0m omen
TheAceGamer30 [#26]ok? Zellsis literally doesn’t play like prx at all so no shit Sherlock
stop pretending like zellsis is half of forsaken
StalwartTiger_35 [#22]prx wouldn't make a final with zellsis
no hate to prx but ur acting like theyve won a final with forsaken 😭
mercuryu [#29]no hate to prx but ur acting like theyve won a final with forsaken 😭
the point of it was (i think) is that with f0rsaken they've at least made finals, if they had zellsis they wouldn't
RGS_OnToP [#25]btw zellsis currently 4:0 forsaken +he also has a master title unlike forsaken
no idea why ya think he is so much worse that forsaken lol1.https://www.vlr.gg/167353/cloud9-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-ro16
- https://www.vlr.gg/286642/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-afreecatv-valorant-league-opening-a
3.https://www.vlr.gg/286660/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-afreecatv-valorant-league-gf
4.https://www.vlr.gg/312781/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-lbfhe owns forsaken sry
bro really listed off season tournaments 😭classic case of retardation
uwukitten [#31]bro really listed off season tournaments 😭classic case of retardation
take the the offseason stuff out if you like is still 2:0 lol
StalwartTiger_35 [#28]stop pretending like zellsis is half of forsaken
Zellsis is 4-0 against forsaken . Forsaken has not beaten Zellsis once 😭
TheAceGamer30 [#34]Zellsis is 4-0 against forsaken . Forsaken has not beaten Zellsis once 😭
Two games were off season, which means nothing.
One game was over a year ago, but sure count it if you want.
the final game was when PRX had Monyet
At most, it's 2:0, had the games had very different teams
BluetheJedi [#32]Oh yeah, this makes so much sense, why in the world would I bring up a player's achievements when comparing them with another player?
its almost like your comparing players mechanics, skill and talent instead of team achievement. but hey you probably think vayln is on the same level as demon1 because he dropped 101 in a series before
doomvor [#35]Two games were off season, which means nothing.
One game was over a year ago, but sure count it if you want.
the final game was when PRX had Monyet
At most, it's 2:0, had the games had very different teams
cope he clears forsaken .
TheAceGamer30 [#37]cope he clears forsaken .
Sure, okay, let's not make excuses for said games. In the two games that you could argue count:
PRX vs SEN Madrid:
f0rsaken: 52 kills, 186ACS
Zellsis: 42 kills, 172ACS
PRX vs C9 Lock//In: (keep in mind PRX got destroyed, 26-12)
f0rsaken: 25 kills, 210ACS
Zellsis 26 kills, 221ACS
f0rsaken easily does better.
drktype [#36]its almost like your comparing players mechanics, skill and talent instead of team achievement. but hey you probably think vayln is on the same level as demon1 because he dropped 101 in a series before
so the players aren't part of team achievement? what point are you trying to make?
drktype [#36]its almost like your comparing players mechanics, skill and talent instead of team achievement. but hey you probably think vayln is on the same level as demon1 because he dropped 101 in a series before
comparing their whole career is the same thing as comparing a bo5 for you?
I see the challenged one here
drktype [#36]its almost like your comparing players mechanics, skill and talent instead of team achievement. but hey you probably think vayln is on the same level as demon1 because he dropped 101 in a series before
Yes, because I was referring to kill count as an achievement, and not title wins, for sure we can compare valyn and Demon1 who play entirely different roles.
InNOut_Burger [#21]i didnt say zellsis is better. im saying the gap between them isnt as great as OP is implying. theyre both extremely solid flex players for two of the best teams in the world. obviously forsaken has better mechs but zellsis is clear of him in other areas as well
what other areas does he clear him on? Lineups? Abusing the odin?
doomvor [#30]the point of it was (i think) is that with f0rsaken they've at least made finals, if they had zellsis they wouldn't
well i agree but only because zellsis isn't the same player without the rest of sentinels, same goes for f0rsaken
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