Sen fans are challenged

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drktype

Bringing team achievements and trophies(only valid if IGL) to a player comparison.

What does TENZ's trophies and S0M's trophies have to do with player comparisons.

Its like bringing up trophies when comparing ZELLSIS(flex) to FORSAKEN(flex). We all know forsaken 100x the player zellsis can even dream to be of.

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7/8

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tenz also has 2x the amount of games and time spent playing than som

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FNS has even more, is he the goat?

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so trashies has even more

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zellsis isnt actually that much worse than forsaken lmao i dont understand why zellsis gets so massively underrated, hes very consistent for SEN and only plays bad when the rest of the team is too.

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drktype

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?????

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hemmy

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And this is why SEN fans are delusional

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TheAceGamer30

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Where’s forsakens vct win? How many times has choked?

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bronzil_enjoyer

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🤓☝

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ButterflyEffect23

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forsaken still clears zellsis tho

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TheAceGamer30

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Yes clears him in choking lol

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prx wouldn't make a final with zellsis

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TheAceGamer30

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ok? Zellsis literally doesn’t play like prx at all so no shit Sherlock

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StalwartTiger_35

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stop pretending like zellsis is half of forsaken

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TheAceGamer30

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Zellsis is 4-0 against forsaken . Forsaken has not beaten Zellsis once 😭

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doomvor

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Two games were off season, which means nothing.

One game was over a year ago, but sure count it if you want.

the final game was when PRX had Monyet

At most, it's 2:0, had the games had very different teams

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TheAceGamer30

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cope he clears forsaken .

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doomvor

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Sure, okay, let's not make excuses for said games. In the two games that you could argue count:

PRX vs SEN Madrid:
f0rsaken: 52 kills, 186ACS
Zellsis: 42 kills, 172ACS

PRX vs C9 Lock//In: (keep in mind PRX got destroyed, 26-12)
f0rsaken: 25 kills, 210ACS
Zellsis 26 kills, 221ACS

f0rsaken easily does better.

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no hate to prx but ur acting like theyve won a final with forsaken 😭

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doomvor

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the point of it was (i think) is that with f0rsaken they've at least made finals, if they had zellsis they wouldn't

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mercuryu

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well i agree but only because zellsis isn't the same player without the rest of sentinels, same goes for f0rsaken

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i didnt say zellsis is better. im saying the gap between them isnt as great as OP is implying. theyre both extremely solid flex players for two of the best teams in the world. obviously forsaken has better mechs but zellsis is clear of him in other areas as well

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AltonBu02

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what other areas does he clear him on? Lineups? Abusing the odin?

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tenz went 10-5 against s0m and 8-1 against ethan

he could solve world hunger and you people would still say he’s not doing enough lmao

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drktype

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??? are you illiterate? No body is calling tenz horrible or not doing enough for sentinels wtf, s0m is 100% better than him though!??

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InNOut_Burger

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tenz is so much better

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Shawn23

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they both play differently lol, id say s0m is the better overall controller yes. I think tenz is the better player tho lmao. its not even close in that aspect.

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TheAceGamer30

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Yes but tenz omen clears s0m omen

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mocaxoxo

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he went 10-5 against s0m and you’re saying s0m is better. are you sure YOURE not illiterate?

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uwukitten

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h2h means literally nothing, tenz was 2/6 against xeppa kkkkkk

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peaced

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they won’t believe their own logic when it’s used against them unfortunately

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uwukitten

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it's actually amazing how stupid they are, like at least other annoying fanbases like navi/fnatic are mostly baiters but sen fans are mostly just idiots

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peaced

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It was probably the first and still is the most obvious thing I realized when I joined this site, a lot of them aren’t trolling and it upsets me

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hemmy

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And tenz went negative against FNS

FNS > tenz??

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RGS_OnToP

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btw zellsis currently 4:0 forsaken +he also has a master title unlike forsaken
no idea why ya think he is so much worse that forsaken lol

1.https://www.vlr.gg/167353/cloud9-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-ro16

https://www.vlr.gg/286642/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-afreecatv-valorant-league-opening-a
3.https://www.vlr.gg/286660/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-afreecatv-valorant-league-gf
4.https://www.vlr.gg/312781/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-lbf

he owns forsaken sry

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uwukitten

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bro really listed off season tournaments 😭classic case of retardation

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RGS_OnToP

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take the the offseason stuff out if you like is still 2:0 lol

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BluetheJedi

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Oh yeah, this makes so much sense, why in the world would I bring up a player's achievements when comparing them with another player?

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drktype

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its almost like your comparing players mechanics, skill and talent instead of team achievement. but hey you probably think vayln is on the same level as demon1 because he dropped 101 in a series before

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Rugsssssss

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so the players aren't part of team achievement? what point are you trying to make?

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Diebs

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comparing their whole career is the same thing as comparing a bo5 for you?
I see the challenged one here

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BluetheJedi

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Yes, because I was referring to kill count as an achievement, and not title wins, for sure we can compare valyn and Demon1 who play entirely different roles.

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valkin

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obviously forsaken is better mechanically but dont underrate zellsis, the gap between them is close as fuck