all the teams look mid cl, some solid ones like g2, sen and lev but Heretics and GenG will slaughter them i dont think amereicas will win champs
I mean i understand ur salty abt ur loss. But like remember what happened when Sentinels were on the big international stage? They cooked. Sentinels beat both GenG and Heretics when it mattered the most. And currently, Aspas is at peak form right now along with the whole squad of leviatan. Its pretty obvious that Leviatan are arguably the best team in the world. They just can't choke like last time
TenSenz [#7]I mean i understand ur salty abt ur loss. But like remember what happened when Sentinels were on the big international stage? They cooked. Sentinels beat both GenG and Heretics when it mattered the most. And currently, Aspas is at peak form right now along with the whole squad of leviatan. Its pretty obvious that Leviatan are arguably the best team in the world. They just can't choke like last time
im not arguing with a sentinels fan. but i do hope you watch and learn about esports
StalwartTiger_35 [#9]Sen and lev are world beaters, g2 is good, maybe 100t bounces back. We haven’t seen kru yet either
ah yes the lev that lost to fut in group stage and missed mardrid
sentinelmain377 [#4]TEAM HERETICS
vs
FNATIC
Champions 2024 Finals
fnatic frauded emea (giants) into last champs now they are the frauds ABSOLUTE CINEMA
0ne [#13]fnatic frauded emea (giants) into last champs now they are the frauds ABSOLUTE CINEMA
GIANTS beat KRU (amer 4) lil bro: https://www.vlr.gg/247078/kr-esports-vs-giants-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-elim-a
ppl forgetting that AMER was also shit in 2023 excluding EG and LOUD (nrg got bilibilied)
sentinelmain377 [#14]GIANTS beat KRU (amer 4) lil bro: https://www.vlr.gg/247078/kr-esports-vs-giants-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-elim-a
ppl forgetting that AMER was also shit in 2023 excluding EG and LOUD (nrg got bilibilied)
ppl forgetting eu was shit excluding fnatic
sentinelmain377 [#14]GIANTS beat KRU (amer 4) lil bro: https://www.vlr.gg/247078/kr-esports-vs-giants-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-elim-a
ppl forgetting that AMER was also shit in 2023 excluding EG and LOUD (nrg got bilibilied)
ppl forgetting that EMEA was also shit in 2023 excluding FNC and... oh, nobody else
Ballsamolee [#15]ppl forgetting eu was shit excluding fnatic
comparing top 4 of each region:
FNC > EG (FNC better at 2/3 stages)
FUT < LOUD (LOUD better at 3/3 stages)
NAVI > NRG (NAVI better at 2/3 stages)
GIA > KRU (GIA better in 2/3 stages. Both teams didnt attend Tokyo)
sentinelmain377 [#14]GIANTS beat KRU (amer 4) lil bro: https://www.vlr.gg/247078/kr-esports-vs-giants-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-elim-a
ppl forgetting that AMER was also shit in 2023 excluding EG and LOUD (nrg got bilibilied)
so 2 of the 4 americas teams at champs make top 4 but americas was shit idk what to tell you bro but maybe a doctor could diagnose you with something?
0ne [#18]so 2 of the 4 americas teams at champs make top 4 but americas was shit idk what to tell you bro but maybe a doctor could diagnose you with something?
did you ever learn how to read?
AMER was also shit in 2023 excluding EG and LOUD
sentinelmain377 [#17]comparing top 4 of each region:
FNC > EG (FNC better at 2/3 stages)
FUT < LOUD (LOUD better at 3/3 stages)
NAVI > NRG (NAVI better at 2/3 stages)
GIA > KRU (GIA better in 2/3 stages. Both teams didnt attend Tokyo)
what made you say that nrg was worse than navi?
sentinelmain377 [#19]did you ever learn how to read?
AMER was also shit in 2023 excluding EG and LOUD
how could americas be shit if americas was good?
sentinelmain377 [#17]comparing top 4 of each region:
FNC > EG (FNC better at 2/3 stages)
FUT < LOUD (LOUD better at 3/3 stages)
NAVI > NRG (NAVI better at 2/3 stages)
GIA > KRU (GIA better in 2/3 stages. Both teams didnt attend Tokyo)
navi better than nrg??? they literally got shit on by them wtf
0ne [#21]how could americas be shit if americas was good?
AMER was 2 team region with ALL other teams being completely shit
(NRG getting bilibilied, KRU losing to GIANTS, LEV being worse than KRU, SEN 100T C9 FURIA MIBR being a mess)
EMEA was 1 team region with NAVI GIANTS and FUT looking decent at the end of the year
NAVI had two extremely close back to back banger series against LOUD & DRX (3rd and 5th place) with the following scores:
NAVI 13-15 DRX, NAVI 13-9 DRX, NAVI 12-14 DRX
NAVI 13-11 LOUD, NAVI 11-13 LOUD, NAVI 11-13 LOUD
GIANTS had a decent game against EDG, who got 6th place, and beat KRU 2-0.
FUT were a top 7-8 team of the year.
syncz [#12]ah yes the lev that lost to fut in group stage and missed mardrid
lev actually look good w the coach changes and they actually look like a team that plays together rather than individual firepower driving the team
syncz [#12]ah yes the lev that lost to fut in group stage and missed mardrid
they got coaching changes and look much better than they used to
koromast [#22]navi better than nrg??? they literally got shit on by them wtf
NAVI were better during 2/3 events.
LOCK//IN:
NAVI > NRG
NAVI 3rd-4th place, NRG 5th-8th place
Tokyo 2023:
NRG > NAVI
NRG beat NAVI in the series. NRG 4th place, NAVI 11th-12th place
Champions 2023:
NAVI >>>>>>>> NRG (nrg got bilibilied while NAVI had the most respectable performances against LOUD and DRX, who got 3rd and 5th place respectively)
NAVI vs DRX: NAVI 13-15 DRX, NAVI 13-9 DRX, NAVI 12-14 DRX
NAVI vs LOUD: NAVI 13-11 LOUD, NAVI 11-13 LOUD, NAVI 11-13 LOUD
groomer [#23]Sadly your opinion doesn't matter because an Americas team will win champs just like they did in the 2 previous ones
GEN.G and TH would like to have a word with you.
sentinelmain377 [#17]comparing top 4 of each region:
FNC > EG (FNC better at 2/3 stages)
FUT < LOUD (LOUD better at 3/3 stages)
NAVI > NRG (NAVI better at 2/3 stages)
GIA > KRU (GIA better in 2/3 stages. Both teams didnt attend Tokyo)
First of all, where the hell is Liquid, they had a more successful year than anyone in EMEA besides Fnatic
Second of all, the fuck you mean "GIA better at 3/3 events", they only attended 2 events that year and in lock-in they were better by 1 game because they got dfm as their first draw 💀
Conceit [#31]First of all, where the hell is Liquid, they had a more successful year than anyone in EMEA besides Fnatic
Second of all, the fuck you mean "GIA better at 3/3 events", they only attended 2 events that year and in lock-in they were better by 1 game because they got dfm as their first draw 💀
bro?
even if you want to believe KRU was better at LOCK//IN, GIANTS were clearly better in the other 2 stages of the year
sentinelmain377 [#32]bro?
- LOCK//IN: GIA > KRU at LOCK//IN. GIANTS also got a map off NRG (when NRG was looking decent) remember.
- Tokyo Split: KRU went 0-9 in groups of Tokyo Stage while GIANTS went 5-4 in group stage.
- Champs 23: GIANTS beat KRU at Champions 2023.
even if you want to believe KRU was better at LOCK//IN, GIANTS were clearly better in the other 2 stages of the year
You ignored my first point
But regardless, we're including regionals for only those two teams???? Why the fuck??? So it makes it look better for you like what
Conceit [#35]You ignored my first point
But regardless, we're including regionals for only those two teams???? Why the fuck??? So it makes it look better for you like what
I cant just not compare GIANTS and KRU at a certain point of the year. Otherwise the comparison would be unfair no?
also for the TL point, im comparing the 4 best teams from each region by the end of the year
sentinelmain377 [#36]I cant just not compare GIANTS and KRU at a certain point of the year. Otherwise the comparison would be unfair no?
also for the TL point, im comparing the 4 best teams from each region by the end of the year
The comparison is unfair regardless because they are different events with completely different teams playing in them. You can't compare the two without being dishonest.
Conceit [#37]The comparison is unfair regardless because they are different events with completely different teams playing in them. You can't compare the two without being dishonest.
bro isbrainded
your saying that I am dishonest when I say GIANTS (5-4) > KRU (0-9)? I would understand you if the group scores were closer, but they arent.
pugz [#2]GenG and TH clears all americas teams
PRX will be back on form too
prx listened to everyone and got an assistant coach + a mental coach so prx should be good enough to get top 4 in champs
sentinelmain377 [#38]bro isbrainded
your saying that I am dishonest when I say GIANTS (5-4) > KRU (0-9)? I would understand you if the group scores were closer, but they arent.
Holy fuck, if you had said stages in your original statement, this would be fine, but you are comparing two separate events. We don't know how well Kru would've done in EMEA or how well Giants would've done in Americas. I'm arguing that framing is incredibly bad here, these teams did not play in the same event like your statement would originally imply, because it does for everything else you listed. Using regional results for only one group of teams is dishonest, use it for all of them, or none, then it is more fair. For tokyo, since neither of them attended, you can literally just say that they didn't attend. In this scenario Giants is still better than Kru so it still gives your point for this
You’re correct but only because CN ON TOP BABY ALL CN GRAND FINALS INCOMING GET READY FOR BLG VS FPX
Tbf sen and lev can definitely do it, sentinels were visibly burnt out in split 1 and got some much needed rest (tbf maybe shouldn’t have try harded all the t2 events as much as they did) while lev have made coaching changes and look much better now, so they have shown visible improvement from Shanghai
sentinelmain377 [#17]comparing top 4 of each region:
FNC > EG (FNC better at 2/3 stages)
FUT < LOUD (LOUD better at 3/3 stages)
NAVI > NRG (NAVI better at 2/3 stages)
GIA > KRU (GIA better in 2/3 stages. Both teams didnt attend Tokyo)
this is the most retarded shit ive seen.
sentinelmain377 [#28]NAVI were better during 2/3 events.
LOCK//IN:
NAVI > NRG
NAVI 3rd-4th place, NRG 5th-8th placeTokyo 2023:
NRG > NAVI
NRG beat NAVI in the series. NRG 4th place, NAVI 11th-12th placeChampions 2023:
NAVI >>>>>>>> NRG (nrg got bilibilied while NAVI had the most respectable performances against LOUD and DRX, who got 3rd and 5th place respectively)
NAVI vs DRX: NAVI 13-15 DRX, NAVI 13-9 DRX, NAVI 12-14 DRX
NAVI vs LOUD: NAVI 13-11 LOUD, NAVI 11-13 LOUD, NAVI 11-13 LOUD
the only big gap is tokyo but you use a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on champions where they got the same placement?
koromast [#46]the only big gap is tokyo but you use a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on champions where they got the same placement?
rigged groups in champs 23 lmfao
NAVI was way better in that tournament
dort [#34]TH isn't touching any team that's in form. GENG is valid though
classic assmericass delusion