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Scream back in Liquid???

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#1
KekWowie

Liquid needs major saving right now and scream is wearing a liquid shirt in his video!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC0dHYyhMRg

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Scream is the last thing TL needs tbh

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ButterflyEffect23
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Scream is not gonna fix shit I'm sorry

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Mortadelo [#2]

Scream is the last thing TL needs tbh

if hes not igl and just focuses on clicking heads he is an upgrade for most teams

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Mortadelo [#2]

Scream is the last thing TL needs tbh

L take

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Agx192
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He is doing content for liquid with sliggy

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zahin1018
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laeDLaer [#4]

if hes not igl and just focuses on clicking heads he is an upgrade for most teams

Idk why ur getting downvoted people forget how insane scream was when he wasn't igling

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Agx192 [#6]

He is doing content for liquid with sliggy

Source?

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Agx192 [#5]

L take

Really? You look at TL and think what they need is firepower??? It's wayyy deeper than that

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zahin1018
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ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

Scream is not gonna fix shit I'm sorry

I mean yeah Keiko is not the problem

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toofan1
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Excited tbh
But don't make him the IGL

#12
hellfire
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tl needs to drop all 5 bots and focus on rebuild

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AR1AN
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Tl needs good coach and igl not firepower

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Mortadelo
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zahin1018 [#7]

Idk why ur getting downvoted people forget how insane scream was when he wasn't igling

Because first, it would have to be in place of Keiko, that would lose you a lot of agent flexibility and have to do the weird shit with the Op again. And the upgrade over keiko is not that big.

And Second you could give aspas to TL in place of keiko and they would still be shit. That’s not what they need

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Mortadelo [#9]

Really? You look at TL and think what they need is firepower??? It's wayyy deeper than that

then what do they need according to u?

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Mortadelo
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anoz [#15]

then what do they need according to u?

First and most importantly a new coach. A higher level IGL and continue from there

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doubt so

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anoz [#15]

then what do they need according to u?

get rid of enzo and put jampii or even Mistic on IGL. Enzo has had plenty of chances to prove himself and all he proved is that he would lose an aim dual to an ascendant 3

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Liquid gets rid of Mistic Enzo and maybe Jampii aswell as replaces their entire coaching staff. Bring back Sliggy as an anaylst not a coach and get someone else. They sign paTiTek and rebuild the roster from keiko, nats, and paTiTek. Wouldn't shock me if they brought NA talent from T2

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Mortadelo [#14]

Because first, it would have to be in place of Keiko, that would lose you a lot of agent flexibility and have to do the weird shit with the Op again. And the upgrade over keiko is not that big.

And Second you could give aspas to TL in place of keiko and they would still be shit. That’s not what they need

keiko and scream literally play the exact same agents but yes i agree theres no point switching out keiko especially when he is able to play well most of the time

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LouBag
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They picked up a core of t1 rejects that lost to a French national team and somehow expected to be good?

Anyone who has watched valorant knew the team was doomed from the start.

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ntro [#20]

keiko and scream literally play the exact same agents but yes i agree theres no point switching out keiko especially when he is able to play well most of the time

THEY DONT x_x, scream is a flex, keiko is an entry

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Mortadelo [#14]

Because first, it would have to be in place of Keiko, that would lose you a lot of agent flexibility and have to do the weird shit with the Op again. And the upgrade over keiko is not that big.

And Second you could give aspas to TL in place of keiko and they would still be shit. That’s not what they need

scream is far more flexible than keiko lol. Keiko hasnt sniffed supporting agents in his life.

Scream would absolutely be a big upgrade over keiko in every sense

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Mortadelo [#16]

First and most importantly a new coach. A higher level IGL and continue from there

IGLs dont grow on trees. I think the nats project could be promising if enough time gets invested into it.

Only alternative i see is getting CLoud to IGL. He seems like a natural fit for it and has had a great game yesterday as IGL.

But i agree with new coach and enzo must leave. honestly you should consider mistic too. Has never shown the potential to be top level. decent is not enough

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KekWowie
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ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

Scream is not gonna fix shit I'm sorry

Replace Jamppi with Scream and let him flex, mistics on smokes, keiko still duelist and op

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zahin1018 [#8]

Source?

they did a watchparty together the other day and scream asked him if he would "be there"

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If screaM can play a more passive role then I would agree that he could be back and it would work, since I think keiko is a better duelist(potential wise). A team with ScreaM and nAts would be crazy to see but without proper igling and a better coach I doubt it would work

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Mortadelo [#14]

Because first, it would have to be in place of Keiko, that would lose you a lot of agent flexibility and have to do the weird shit with the Op again. And the upgrade over keiko is not that big.

And Second you could give aspas to TL in place of keiko and they would still be shit. That’s not what they need

LLL mortadelo holy

I agree that the whole TL teams needs a change but ScreaM should be a player coming in with the change

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JustHunterM8 [#22]

THEY DONT x_x, scream is a flex, keiko is an entry

if you were to replace scream with keiko you wouldnt have scream playing initiators because then no one would be on duelist so in this replacement they would be playing the same agents

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Mortadelo [#14]

Because first, it would have to be in place of Keiko, that would lose you a lot of agent flexibility and have to do the weird shit with the Op again. And the upgrade over keiko is not that big.

And Second you could give aspas to TL in place of keiko and they would still be shit. That’s not what they need

blud what are u waffling just stop

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Sidyon [#27]

If screaM can play a more passive role then I would agree that he could be back and it would work, since I think keiko is a better duelist(potential wise). A team with ScreaM and nAts would be crazy to see but without proper igling and a better coach I doubt it would work

keiko better than scream at duelist lmaoooo , what potential are u talking about the dude cant even have two consecutive consistent games together , what crack do these ppl smoke

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Congo1 [#23]

scream is far more flexible than keiko lol. Keiko hasnt sniffed supporting agents in his life.

Scream would absolutely be a big upgrade over keiko in every sense

Ah hell no. Scream plays a Jett that doesn’t Op, a Raze with weird mechanics, and a Sage/Kayo/Breach with questionable util

We’re on a Neon/Raze meta, I’m taking Keiko any day of the week

I’m not saying he’s a bad player by any means but he’s not a system player, he’s the system if it makes any sense. You need to play around him in order for it to work, can’t just plug him in he is a very specific profile

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ntro [#20]

keiko and scream literally play the exact same agents but yes i agree theres no point switching out keiko especially when he is able to play well most of the time

Do you really want Scream to be your Neon?? Really?

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sentinelmain377 [#28]

LLL mortadelo holy

I agree that the whole TL teams needs a change but ScreaM should be a player coming in with the change

Scream is a great player but I don’t think you can just plug him in like any other player. He is a very specific profile

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Mortadelo [#33]

Do you really want Scream to be your Neon?? Really?

scream is my goat so will do well on anything as is keiko

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Mortadelo [#14]

Because first, it would have to be in place of Keiko, that would lose you a lot of agent flexibility and have to do the weird shit with the Op again. And the upgrade over keiko is not that big.

And Second you could give aspas to TL in place of keiko and they would still be shit. That’s not what they need

bro, i agree w most of your takes but scream is so clear of keiko lol, keiko is a t2 player

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UnrivaleD [#31]

keiko better than scream at duelist lmaoooo , what potential are u talking about the dude cant even have two consecutive consistent games together , what crack do these ppl smoke

Agreed his jett is ok but raze is mid and lets not even talk about his iso lol. Scream is aimwise lightyear ahead of keiko

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swf [#36]

bro, i agree w most of your takes but scream is so clear of keiko lol, keiko is a t2 player

I also agree overall Scream is better I just have 3 points which make me think it’s a terrible idea

I think the Neon meta favors keiko

I think you can’t just plug in Scream like any other player, he’s very specific

Even if you do, it doesn’t fix you anything TL would still be dogshit

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Congo1 [#24]

IGLs dont grow on trees. I think the nats project could be promising if enough time gets invested into it.

Only alternative i see is getting CLoud to IGL. He seems like a natural fit for it and has had a great game yesterday as IGL.

But i agree with new coach and enzo must leave. honestly you should consider mistic too. Has never shown the potential to be top level. decent is not enough

Yeah Enzo Mistic and Emil should be the firsts to go.

I agree finding a new IGL is hard af, never said it was easy, but it is what they need xD

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