I understand that igls aren’t fraggers and all, but fns quite literally has plat aim. it’s like he genuinely hasn’t tried to get better or aim train
BulkyLettuce [#2]yea thats whats holding igls like boaster, fns and sadhaak back
saadhak is a lot better mechanically then both of them
kyro1 [#4]saadhak is a lot better mechanically then both of them
true but its still worse than someone like munchkin, johnqt, davai, valyn
BulkyLettuce [#6]true but its still worse than someone like munchkin, johnqt, davai, valyn
davai isnt a igl but yes all 3 of them are much better mechanically then saadhak especially munchkin dude is like a sleeping giant if you wake him up he takes over games
BulkyLettuce [#6]true but its still worse than someone like munchkin, johnqt, davai, valyn
I never understand this take, Saadhak is quite litterally (before pancada joined) Loud 3rd best frager. In 22 he didnt frag that well but in 23/24 he puts up consistent numbers that are much higher than the average indivual. Compare him to flex players in americas (without including his igl)
Saadhak>Zellsis
Saadhak>Asuna
Saadhak>Ethan
Saadhak>>>>Xeppaa
Saadhak>=JonahP
Saadhak>Nature
Saadhak>Mazino
Saadhak>>>>MIBR flex
Saadhak<Heat
Saadhak=<NZR
Hades_Loves_Rb [#8]I never understand this take, Saadhak is quite litterally (before pancada joined) Loud 3rd best frager. In 22 he didnt frag that well but in 23/24 he puts up consistent numbers that are much higher than the average indivual. Compare him to flex players in americas (without including his igl)
Saadhak>Zellsis
Saadhak>Asuna
Saadhak>Ethan
Saadhak>>>>Xeppaa
Saadhak>=JonahP
Saadhak>Nature
Saadhak>Mazino
Saadhak>>>>MIBR flex
Saadhak<Heat
Saadhak=<NZR
Nzr and heat being better than everyone else on your list is crazy. Way more of those players are better than saadhak, like ethan, asuna(currently), jonahp, mazino, and xeppa most of the time is better as well but he has high highs and low lows. Zellsis is also arguable and I'd put zellsis above sadhaak personally.
mocaxoxo [#5]what’s funny is that aim is the easiest thing to improve on
igling, game sense, etc are much more abstract and harder to practice
No lol. It's the opposite
BulkyLettuce [#2]yea thats whats holding igls like boaster, fns and sadhaak back
the thing is, boaster and saadhak try to get better, but FNS has had the same aim for all his years of pro play
Sidyon [#10]Nzr and heat being better than everyone else on your list is crazy. Way more of those players are better than saadhak, like ethan, asuna(currently), jonahp, mazino, and xeppa most of the time is better as well but he has high highs and low lows. Zellsis is also arguable and I'd put zellsis above sadhaak personally.
ethan has been shit this entire year. Even in this game vs sen where hes not igling ZELLSIS of all people is outshinning him and its not close. He is coming no where near his 23 days.
Hades_Loves_Rb [#14]ethan has been shit this entire year. Even in this game vs sen where hes not igling ZELLSIS of all people is outshinning him and its not close. He is coming no where near his 23 days.
the downplay on zellsis is crazy. idk how you guys forgot how good zellsis was and just assume he's bad because he's outshined by other players like zekken and tenz. Zellsis was him last year and still is this year. Also Ethan is still one of nrgs best players fragging and util wise.
strawwwwws [#12]the thing is, boaster and saadhak try to get better, but FNS has had the same aim for all his years of pro play
well i guess they arent trying hard enough
BulkyLettuce [#16]well i guess they arent trying hard enough
maybe prx should try harder to win a trophy
Borge_heheheha [#17]maybe prx should try harder to win a trophy
and maybe loud should try harder to qualify
hemmy [#11]No lol. It's the opposite
IGLing comes with years of experience lmao, you think Boostio was so good with IGL because he picked it up one day and decided to call? no lmao look at how Ethan turned out.
BulkyLettuce [#18]and maybe loud should try harder to qualify
ez to qualify in a region with bld, ge, zeta and dfm. y’all lose when you face real opponents
Borge_heheheha [#23]ez to qualify in a region with bld, ge, zeta and dfm. y’all lose when you face real opponents
Not the LOUD fan talking, PRX owns your dogshit Team 2-0 😂
Borge_heheheha [#23]ez to qualify in a region with bld, ge, zeta and dfm. y’all lose when you face real opponents
by your logic loud isnt a "real opponent"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 2-0 on your dumbass
I think all of you should try looking at the minimap and trying to shoot at the same time. All the while calling strats and info for your team. You will not frag at all this is why i hate the igl aim narrative. Its not as easy as you think. The igl you mention have completely different styles of calling
ShuGo [#24]Not the LOUD fan talking, PRX owns your dogshit Team 2-0 😂
can prx win a trophy tho? dumbass go back to supporting your mickey mouse team
mocaxoxo [#5]what’s funny is that aim is the easiest thing to improve on
igling, game sense, etc are much more abstract and harder to practice
not for players like fns, ange1, boaster in a year or so, etc because age
Yuh_aye [#20]The problem is if FNS had the mechanics of even some regular pro like Snarly or Screwface he'd literally be BY FAR the best player in the game.
aint screwface an igl too?
EseemedRes1180 [#26]I think all of you should try looking at the minimap and trying to shoot at the same time. All the while calling strats and info for your team. You will not frag at all this is why i hate the igl aim narrative. Its not as easy as you think. The igl you mention have completely different styles of calling
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BairyHalls [#30]w comment
No it's not lol. FNS has ass aim even for an IGL. Just compare him to Boo, Munchkin, JohnQT, Boostio or hell even Saadhak. All those people have way better aim while also being the IGL.
No one is saying that FNS should have t3xture level aim but he has by far the worst aim/mechanics out of probably every T1 IGL right now.
bobwoblob [#31]No it's not lol. FNS has ass aim even for an IGL. Just compare him to Boo, Munchkin, JohnQT, Boostio or hell even Saadhak. All those people have way better aim while also being the IGL.
No one is saying that FNS should have t3xture level aim but he has by far the worst aim/mechanics out of probably every T1 IGL right now.
FNS calls better than all of them , if the other 4 cant shoot heads then its not FNS fault
Boaster just with his calls with very low KDA got 2 trophies back to back the reason is good calling + all 4 shooting heads
bobwoblob [#31]No it's not lol. FNS has ass aim even for an IGL. Just compare him to Boo, Munchkin, JohnQT, Boostio or hell even Saadhak. All those people have way better aim while also being the IGL.
No one is saying that FNS should have t3xture level aim but he has by far the worst aim/mechanics out of probably every T1 IGL right now.
They have completely different styles of igl'ing. Boo, munchkin QT let their players take their own decision and just do the pre round start plan.
While fns, boaster and few other early day igl do the micro strat kinda thing. Especially these two you need a lot of coordination to run multi level fakes and non heavy exec play styles
Yuh_aye [#33]I'm pretty sure he is (not on fns level obv)
yeah there isnt much igls on his level tho
Borge_heheheha [#27]can prx win a trophy tho? dumbass go back to supporting your mickey mouse team
prx fans know their team can’t win so they go on vlr and shit on other successful teams
BairyHalls [#32]FNS calls better than all of them , if the other 4 cant shoot heads then its not FNS fault
Boaster just with his calls with very low KDA got 2 trophies back to back the reason is good calling + all 4 shooting heads
boaster got his best ever individual performances while winning those tourneys tho fns focusing a lil bit more on getting impact kills wouldnt be bad at all
heavensentsaint [#37]prx fans know their team can’t win so they go on vlr and shit on other successful teams
prx fans are coppers !
they wont ever be rembered or called the greatest if they cant win a trophy !
loud is by far one of the best teams in valorant history !
Agx192 [#35]Bruh your igl only got 4 more kills than him
you should see his kda too. FNS was always shit aimer but his igling+yay carried him , but now he doesnt have a yay.
BulkyLettuce [#6]true but its still worse than someone like munchkin, johnqt, davai, valyn
Say that again
Hades_Loves_Rb [#42]Say that again
ok, still worse than someone like munchkin, johnqt, davai, valyn
should I say it a third time?