PRX Comp Change Suggestions

I know I made a disappointment thread on PRX but I still love them and want to support them, maybe alecks or someone there reads this thread, but hopefully this can help
Even with the failure of shanghai, there is no way I'm making changes to this team or dropping someone, I just want them to add an extra man to help alecks, an analyst or assistant coach
These comp change suggestions i made are before the duelist patch so some raze maps can definitely be changed to neon (and forsaken/jingg can definitely play neon)

Keep in mind that these comp changes are possible if jinggg can flex more and learn 1 or 2 more agents and play them on non raze maps, and prx will definitely have to sacrfice and tune down some aggression

1. Lotus: Something on breach, Forsaken on KJ/Cypher, Jinggg solo entry, davai on skye, mindfreak omen. They will probably sacrifice SOME opping but if something can op on gekko, then he can definitely op on breach. Their lotus on defence is weak (exposed by G2 and GENG) where when they aggro push one part of the map, B usually has zero players and is empty asf, so cypher or kj can definitely help, and kj's ult can make the difference and secure you rounds.

Lotus-> KJ/Cypher - Raze - Skye - Breach - Omen

2. Icebox: Honestly you can keep the same comp BUT PLEASE HAVE JINGGG flex more and learn sova(?) OR you can have jingg learn killjoy, something on jett, mf on viper, forsaken and davai can be the sova/kayo, and jingg can go killjoy. (THERE IS NO WAY prx are playing icebox without a kj) or maybe jingg can learn sova, or atleast an initiator agent and have davai on kj

OR another suggestion is jinggg can go jett instead (which is kinda weird to look at but he played jett before he went to prx) and have something on gekko (comp would be gekko jett viper sova kj) Because let's be real, kayo initiator only in icebox is weak, on attack you barely get any info, and on defense, you would need to peek or jiggle peek to gain info which is riskier

Icebox-> Jett Kayo Sova Viper KJ or Jett Gekko Kayo/Sova Viper KJ

3. Split: I don't have any problems with their split comp and it is the same as geng's split. Both of these team's split comps have worked for them, but a suggestion is maybe something can ditch the jett and go gekko, but other than that, no problem.

4. Bind: Now PRX's bind has been absolutely weak and honestly it may be due to the harbor. Forsaken's harbor is very good and creative but teams have caught up on how he plays it and harbor's stopping power is just isn't enough. PRX can definitely benefit more on forsaken flexing to viper and other than that keep the rest as it is.

the reyna comp actually has a good winrate and prx has beaten EG in champs, drx in pacific 2023, and edg in shanghai with it so it all comes down to how something is playing

Bind-> Raze, Gekko/Reyna, Skye, Viper, Brimstone

5. Ascent: I honestly like PRX's old harbor viper reyna raze skye comp last year but skye has been nerfed which means less info can be gathered. PRX tried to run the usual ascent comp but with jingg on sage, and it looked pretty weak. The only change i have would be again, switch jingg to kj and it will benefit them a lot, covers more holes in defense, and better ult.

Ascent: Jett, Kayo. Sova, Omen, KJ

6. Sunset: PRX's sunset is one of their best maps and their current comp with the sage is very good, but i want davai to switch to cypher, because with his sage, I notice more holes in the defense and mid becomes empty after they aggro push in one part of the map.

Sunset: Raze, Gekko, Omen, Cypher, Breach/Kayo

7. Breeze: fuck breeze

Again this is my suggestion and I'm probably not qualified to suggest these comps (hardstuck diamond 3) but i watched so many prx games and watch a lot of analysis and vods of other pro teams, so there's that. These changes make prx definitely less aggresive (But they can 100% pull it off). The only problem is their defense which has a lot of holes and void of info that a sentinel like kj and cypher can fix that problem. This would mean 3 players on prx have to flex on info sentinel which should be no problem. If Jinggg can frag on Sage, he can definitely frag on Killjoy.

Any ideas for the Haven comp?

(Also mindfreak being shortened to mf is so funny)

allat

cloudberry [#2]

Any ideas for the Haven comp?

(Also mindfreak being shortened to mf is so funny)

It depends if they want to run the skye on haven. They're definitely not running the reyna on haven because it is weak (depends on new patch actually, reyna is slightly stronger now)

But I would probably have them go something on jett, mindfreak omen, Jinggg on KJ, sova on davai and forsaken on breach
Who knows actually, maybe neon will become meta on haven.

basically wat i got from this is that jinng is a raze merchant

moshimoshiman24 [#5]

basically wat i got from this is that jinng is a raze merchant

yes, 100%, you can see how prx struggle on non raze maps (pearl is an exception)

Jingg just needs to learn killjoy and we gucci

armadmeister1 [#4]

It depends if they want to run the skye on haven. They're definitely not running the reyna on haven because it is weak (depends on new patch actually, reyna is slightly stronger now)

But I would probably have them go something on jett, mindfreak omen, Jinggg on KJ, sova on davai and forsaken on breach
Who knows actually, maybe neon will become meta on haven.

I would like to see a neon comp from them. either jingg or forskaen on neon. breach/gekko with sova/skye, omen and cypher or kj

Allat

Crypto_816 [#7]

I would like to see a neon comp from them. either jingg or forskaen on neon. breach/gekko with sova/skye, omen and cypher or kj

definitely, neon will be meta in split 2 and champs

armadmeister1 [#6]

yes, 100%, you can see how prx struggle on non raze maps (pearl is an exception)

Jingg just needs to learn killjoy and we gucci

jjingg needs to learn kayo and we will be guccy especially since he has experience playing kayo and he was decent

Putting jinggg on jett is probably the best imo while something can play gekko/breach especially with haven coming back and the raze nerfs

But this means something op would be really limited and he's one of the best oper itw so idk if they gonna ever do this

allat fraud region

armadmeister1 [#9]

definitely, neon will be meta in split 2 and champs

for sure.I think neon could be meta on even maps like Icebox. the stun reduction could hurt him but with the amount of open space being limited in icebox theres soo much you could do with an agent like neon.

Chow1E [#12]

allat fraud region

make a LAN first like bro

NoCheatJustLag [#11]

Putting jinggg on jett is probably the best imo while something can play gekko/breach especially with haven coming back and the raze nerfs

But this means something op would be really limited and he's one of the best oper itw so idk if they gonna ever do this

they definitely need more sentinels in 2 or 3 more maps but yeah that can be beneficial, forsaken and davai can play sentinel

Counterpoint: Have something entry on jett maps, forsaken play neon, and have Jinggg play phoenix. There will still be a couple of Raze maps, so Jinggg will play raze there. TBH, I would have jinggg play raze on the newer maps bc there isn't muscle memory that needs to be overwritten in terms of satchels.

Moving onto my idea for Phoenix, if you think about it, Phoenix is really a flash initiator.

Breach vs Phoenix:
2 flashes vs 2 flashes
aftershock vs molly
stun vs wall

Jinggg can flash for his teammates as well as himself. Plus he can use the wall/molly in set executes. Jinggg has shown comfort in the phoenix.

Solo phoenix duelist like Loud was trying to do is stupid, but Phoenix played as a secondary duelist really acts as a supporting flash initiator. + since Phoenix ult is low orb count, Jinggg will get run it backs online quickly, which will be super useful in retakes.

cloudberry [#2]

Any ideas for the Haven comp?

(Also mindfreak being shortened to mf is so funny)

Hear me out:

Neon, Phoenix, Gekko, Skye, Astra

DSGFan [#16]

Counterpoint: Have something entry on jett maps, forsaken play neon, and have Jinggg play phoenix. There will still be a couple of Raze maps, so Jinggg will play raze there. TBH, I would have jinggg play raze on the newer maps bc there isn't muscle memory that needs to be overwritten in terms of satchels.

Moving onto my idea for Phoenix, if you think about it, Phoenix is really a flash initiator.

Breach vs Phoenix:
2 flashes vs 2 flashes
aftershock vs molly
stun vs wall

Jinggg can flash for his teammates as well as himself. Plus he can use the wall/molly in set executes. Jinggg has shown comfort in the phoenix.

Solo phoenix duelist like Loud was trying to do is stupid, but Phoenix played as a secondary duelist really acts as a supporting flash initiator. + since Phoenix ult is low orb count, Jinggg will get run it backs online quickly, which will be super useful in retakes.

also, I'd be open to actually have jinggg play clove on some maps. Clove is definitely viable, as shown by FPX and Oxygen in NA tier2

DSGFan [#16]

Counterpoint: Have something entry on jett maps, forsaken play neon, and have Jinggg play phoenix. There will still be a couple of Raze maps, so Jinggg will play raze there. TBH, I would have jinggg play raze on the newer maps bc there isn't muscle memory that needs to be overwritten in terms of satchels.

Moving onto my idea for Phoenix, if you think about it, Phoenix is really a flash initiator.

Breach vs Phoenix:
2 flashes vs 2 flashes
aftershock vs molly
stun vs wall

Jinggg can flash for his teammates as well as himself. Plus he can use the wall/molly in set executes. Jinggg has shown comfort in the phoenix.

Solo phoenix duelist like Loud was trying to do is stupid, but Phoenix played as a secondary duelist really acts as a supporting flash initiator. + since Phoenix ult is low orb count, Jinggg will get run it backs online quickly, which will be super useful in retakes.

I can see your argument but breach is just so much better in terms of team value than phoenix. Breach can support the team long range, setup more trap plays, His stun is INFINITELY better than phoenix's wall. His flash is better than phoenix because he can aim it through most walls which makes him be in a safer position and also more flexible on where he can flash.

and all of his util goes through walls, which help so much during executes, retakes.

also his aftershock can clear corners that are farther away, while phoenix can as well but maybe a bit harder to lineup the molly

Crypto_816 [#14]

make a LAN first like bro

KRÜ was at two different Champs bro, what are you talking about

Crypto_816 [#10]

jjingg needs to learn kayo and we will be guccy especially since he has experience playing kayo and he was decent

nah jinng kayo might b as bad as zekken breach that bad

cloudberry [#20]

KRÜ was at two different Champs bro, what are you talking about

And?? PRX was a finalist in one of them so I dont really so your point. Hes calling Pac a fraud region when his team cant even make a LAN lol

moshimoshiman24 [#21]

nah jinng kayo might b as bad as zekken breach that bad

not really his kayo was good on ascent when he played it.

armadmeister1 [#19]

I can see your argument but breach is just so much better in terms of team value than phoenix. Breach can support the team long range, setup more trap plays, His stun is INFINITELY better than phoenix's wall. His flash is better than phoenix because he can aim it through most walls which makes him be in a safer position and also more flexible on where he can flash.

and all of his util goes through walls, which help so much during executes, retakes.

also his aftershock can clear corners that are farther away, while phoenix can as well but maybe a bit harder to lineup the molly

I get what you're saying, but lowkey Breach is an agent who goes against PRX's philosphy. You can stun for others, but often times that means you're separating yourself from the rest of the pack for "ideal" stuns, and that was a part of why PRX lost Lotus to G2. You want to give Jinggg and something agents which can play into the other members of the team but also allow them to play for themselves when necessary.

+with regards to breach vs Phoenix, phoenix has a wall for cutting the site which I think is more in line with PRX executes as opposed to a stun. And Phoenix ults will more likely give PRX value than 1 to at most 2 breach ults in a half.