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Proof that CS players are less skilled

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#1
beaver_man

Stewie flopped in tier 2 valorant but now won a major in CS2? Lmaoooo 😭😭 the skill gap is so huge, valorant pros are on another level

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nt

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ButterflyEffect23
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M0NESY would be the Valorant GOAT by 2026 if he switched games tbh

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Cookierookie577
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m0nesy lowkey carried, but stew had impact though

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Considering the only tier 1 CS player who came to Valorant was Ethan and the guy won a Champs I think you're a little bit retarded.

Every other CS pro who came to Valorant was washed in CS. Stewie included is washed, he was subbing for Hooxi, a guy who doesn't even have to go even on KD and the team wins because NiKo ans M0nesy are that damn good.

Tldr, with NiKo, Hunter and M0nesy's performance this tournament even SkRossi could have won a trophy.

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it is not a major Tournament, it is just a T1 tournament. The order of importance of T1 CS tournaments CS Majors 1/2 per year followed by Katowice/Cologne/Blast World Finals and after that ESL Pro League/Blast Spring/Fall Finals/Other IEM Events like Dallas and after that smaller tournaments like Betboom/Blast Spring/fall Groups.

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moshimoshiman24
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now go choose any of our players and c if they can even crack a tier 2 cs roster

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Ryzen_ [#5]

Considering the only tier 1 CS player who came to Valorant was Ethan and the guy won a Champs I think you're a little bit retarded.

Every other CS pro who came to Valorant was washed in CS. Stewie included is washed, he was subbing for Hooxi, a guy who doesn't even have to go even on KD and the team wins because NiKo ans M0nesy are that damn good.

Tldr, with NiKo, Hunter and M0nesy's performance this tournament even SkRossi could have won a trophy.

falling for beaver man bait in 2024....

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KITTT
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stew looked absolutely shit mechanically compared to everyone else

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Ryzen_
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Cookierookie577 [#8]

falling for beaver man bait in 2024....

I would like to believe it's bait, but VLR is the single stupidest place I've visited on the internet.

This shit is the Tumblr of eSports forums.

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stewie played like shit lmao go check the stats. g2 had the whole arena behind them and m0NESY went nuclear in playoffs. and iem dallas is not a major you retard. equivalent to a masters maybe

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Ryzen_ [#10]

I would like to believe it's bait, but VLR is the single stupidest place I've visited on the internet.

This shit is the Tumblr of eSports forums.

bro he does this all the time, just ignore him all good

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Ryzen_
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Cookierookie577 [#12]

bro he does this all the time, just ignore him all good

Yeah I know, I'm not really talking to him, just the people who will end up reading the thread potentially.

You can't really talk to fake flaggers

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beaver_man
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laeDLaer [#11]

stewie played like shit lmao go check the stats. g2 had the whole arena behind them and m0NESY went nuclear in playoffs. and iem dallas is not a major you retard. equivalent to a masters maybe

Bro thinks I care if it’s a major or not 😹 as if I watch that bullshit game 😭

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laeDLaer
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beaver_man [#14]

Bro thinks I care if it’s a major or not 😹 as if I watch that bullshit game 😭

then why make a whole post about it if you dont care or watch? retard

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beaver_man
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laeDLaer [#15]

then why make a whole post about it if you dont care or watch? retard

Just cause it’s too easy to get cs frogs mad 💀 like you

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gg321
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beaver_man [#16]

Just cause it’s too easy to get cs frogs mad 💀 like you

u enjoy getting owned in ur own threads? Weird kink

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BlackInDiamond
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I really don't understand why people compare players from different games, but you can be sure that if any top CS
pro switched to Valorant today, within a year they would leave all the best Valorant players in the dust. Even CS
"noob" Yay was out-aiming and outperforming everyone using the low-skill agent Chamber (only using his teleport ability). The skill gap is so vast, I don't know how people can't see that

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BlackInDiamond [#18]

I really don't understand why people compare players from different games, but you can be sure that if any top CS
pro switched to Valorant today, within a year they would leave all the best Valorant players in the dust. Even CS
"noob" Yay was out-aiming and outperforming everyone using the low-skill agent Chamber (only using his teleport ability). The skill gap is so vast, I don't know how people can't see that

Like nitro and Stewie? Oh wait they are still ass in val 😭 Read #1

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gg321
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BlackInDiamond [#18]

I really don't understand why people compare players from different games, but you can be sure that if any top CS
pro switched to Valorant today, within a year they would leave all the best Valorant players in the dust. Even CS
"noob" Yay was out-aiming and outperforming everyone using the low-skill agent Chamber (only using his teleport ability). The skill gap is so vast, I don't know how people can't see that

theres no way to be so dominant in val,the mechanics are so dumbed down compared to cs almost anyone can shoot

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BlackInDiamond
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beaver_man [#19]

Like nitro and Stewie? Oh wait they are still ass in val 😭 Read #1

Nitro had his job done in CS and he was not hungry to be the top of the game like Valorant. Stewie was more content creator than pro valorant player and he was in his prime like 5-6 years ago. He left CS cause he also felt that it's not him anymore. Those names are not even top 50 in best CS players category. Nobody will switch Valorant who's doing good in CS, cause they know their own potential

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gg321 [#20]

theres no way to be so dominant in val,the mechanics are so dumbed down compared to cs almost anyone can shoot

Is that a joke? Cs is like a simplified valorant for Neanderthals who think abilities are too complicated 😹

You’re probably gold in Val too, pipe down little man 😭

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gg321
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beaver_man [#22]

Is that a joke? Cs is like a simplified valorant for Neanderthals who think abilities are too complicated 😹

You’re probably gold in Val too, pipe down little man 😭

send ur tracker then,every pro ive heard says cs is mechanically harder,its a pretty well known fact at this point

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BlackInDiamond
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beaver_man [#22]

Is that a joke? Cs is like a simplified valorant for Neanderthals who think abilities are too complicated 😹

You’re probably gold in Val too, pipe down little man 😭

you are probably silver in both games, but know that creating attack opportunities with 4 utility is a lot harder than mixing astra pull and raze nade. CS also don't have the run and gun issue as much as Valo and it makes the game harder for eco sides.

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gg321 [#23]

send ur tracker then,every pro ive heard says cs is mechanically harder,its a pretty well known fact at this point

Mechanically it's not a question, cs has the higher skill ceiling, but as an overall esport it's very much debatable. As many pros have said it's much harder to be dominant in valorant than cs and that's because there are so many more variables in Val which makes the game much harder to master on a strategic level.

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Ryzen_ [#13]

Yeah I know, I'm not really talking to him, just the people who will end up reading the thread potentially.

You can't really talk to fake flaggers

You can't really talk to fake flaggers

truer words have never been spoken

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RealPumaBot
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BlackInDiamond [#24]

you are probably silver in both games, but know that creating attack opportunities with 4 utility is a lot harder than mixing astra pull and raze nade. CS also don't have the run and gun issue as much as Valo and it makes the game harder for eco sides.

Although I see the angle you are coming from, a lot of cs sore executes look very and I mean very similar and understandably so as there are far less variables in the game. Although there are some basic util combos in valorant that are proven to be very effective, no valo game looks the same and that shows that pros have to be far more creative and make more on the fly decision making to be effective with their util.

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RealPumaBot [#25]

Mechanically it's not a question, cs has the higher skill ceiling, but as an overall esport it's very much debatable. As many pros have said it's much harder to be dominant in valorant than cs and that's because there are so many more variables in Val which makes the game much harder to master on a strategic level.

yeah its hard cause of the randomness,there isnt a way to master val tactically thats the thing,theres always some bullshit that u cant account for even if u play "perfect"
mobas like league have way more variables tactically too but its way less random

#29
AutismCanBeCured
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Was there ever a time you made a good bait or were they always this bad?

#30
dort
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tier 1 CS = tier 3 val

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ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

M0NESY would be the Valorant GOAT by 2026 if he switched games tbh

he would get farmed by mibr

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dort [#31]

he would get farmed by mibr

who plays for MIBR? no trolling

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ButterflyEffect23 [#32]

who plays for MIBR? no trolling

exactly

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BlackInDiamond
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RealPumaBot [#27]

Although I see the angle you are coming from, a lot of cs sore executes look very and I mean very similar and understandably so as there are far less variables in the game. Although there are some basic util combos in valorant that are proven to be very effective, no valo game looks the same and that shows that pros have to be far more creative and make more on the fly decision making to be effective with their util.

Maybe it is because there are 100 different utility in valorant so it's more unlikely they will do the same? But entering the site is almost same for a team that usually plays the map. Flash, Jett smoke dash, Kayo knife maybe, they all doing same thing if they are entering site.

Also this has nothing to do with skill gap

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Ryzen_ [#5]

Considering the only tier 1 CS player who came to Valorant was Ethan and the guy won a Champs I think you're a little bit retarded.

Every other CS pro who came to Valorant was washed in CS. Stewie included is washed, he was subbing for Hooxi, a guy who doesn't even have to go even on KD and the team wins because NiKo ans M0nesy are that damn good.

Tldr, with NiKo, Hunter and M0nesy's performance this tournament even SkRossi could have won a trophy.

Ethan was mid for years

#36
cocoluna
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this bait is all over twitter

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laifu
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humble_y0y_10k [#35]

Ethan was mid for years

A top 20 HLTV player before the pandemic era

#38
TeoEmil
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That ain’t a major champ

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beaver_man
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cocoluna [#36]

this bait is all over twitter

People stealing my posts 🥱

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Ullyr
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Valorant require more strats... bro struggled more on the nation in tier 3 valo

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pullupthen
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Ullyr [#40]

Valorant require more strats... bro struggled more on the nation in tier 3 valo

SEATARD stick to mobile gaming dog shit region

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gg321
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Ullyr [#40]

Valorant require more strats... bro struggled more on the nation in tier 3 valo

how did he struggle more? He played some open quals with a mix team for the first time igling in a new game and he did better individually than he did with eg in tier 2 NA cs lol

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ricox
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yea but u got players coming from not only cs but games like siege,league of legends, overwatch dominating the T1 scene rn and those players weren't winning that much in their previous esport

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Sikul
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pullupthen [#41]

SEATARD stick to mobile gaming dog shit region

Any player from your country?, oh just migrate to US

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ShuGo
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Tier 3 Valorant players would farm the shit out of CS but the Europeans will deny their admission to a Team cause they’re scared of NA

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laifu [#37]

A top 20 HLTV player before the pandemic era

i meant in val

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BlackInDiamond [#34]

Maybe it is because there are 100 different utility in valorant so it's more unlikely they will do the same? But entering the site is almost same for a team that usually plays the map. Flash, Jett smoke dash, Kayo knife maybe, they all doing same thing if they are entering site.

Also this has nothing to do with skill gap

I mean it fundamentally does, more variables to account for = harder decision making

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i11matic
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Bro all the csgo pros do is crouch and spray, even a silver can do that shit lmao

#49
Er3ngenes1s
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0/8

blud said its a major 💀

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beaver_man
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i11matic [#48]

Bro all the csgo pros do is crouch and spray, even a silver can do that shit lmao

Facts bro 😭😭 they act like cs is so mechanically advanced when it’s just like Valorant but more spraying

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meadows
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So real and true, CoperStrike2 fans can’t handle it in the replies lmao

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