Sinatraa would be a great fit for T1
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Nycera [#2]nah they wouldnt hire a rapist me no thinks
I dont know dude when i get raped and i have tape of it i usually would try to provide it so the person i hate most gets punished
PrTsty [#4]I dont know dude when i get raped and i have tape of it i usually would try to provide it so the person i hate most gets punished
Exactly, if I’m taking someone to court for raping me and I have video evidence of them doing it I’m not just gonna keep it
thanatos11 [#7]Exactly, if I’m taking someone to court for raping me and I have video evidence of them doing it I’m not just gonna keep it
How fucking low IQ are you idiots. I'm not saying this for Sinaatra but how tf do you think Rape victims have video evidence? Do you think they just record everytime they are raped. Learn before you speak dumbass kids.
Revan [#8]How fucking low IQ are you idiots. I'm not saying this for Sinaatra but how tf do you think Rape victims have video evidence? Do you think they just record everytime they are raped. Learn before you speak dumbass kids.
She legit uploaded a voice clip of him ‘raping her’ this legit makes it seem like she has a video or more audio?
Revan [#8]How fucking low IQ are you idiots. I'm not saying this for Sinaatra but how tf do you think Rape victims have video evidence? Do you think they just record everytime they are raped. Learn before you speak dumbass kids.
Thats what she stated lmao. Then sinatraa said he will provide the video but after that he realized he doesnt have it. Then cloe said he is lying she sent it to him per whatsapp when they were together???? So basically she put the camera there, he sexually assaulted her and then she sent it to him like ayo wtf. The whole story makes no sense and both of them are weirdos
thanatos11 [#9]She legit uploaded a voice clip of him ‘raping her’ this legit makes it seem like she has a video or more audio?
Btw he was accused of sexuall assault not rape
PrTsty [#4]I dont know dude when i get raped and i have tape of it i usually would try to provide it so the person i hate most gets punished
its a very traumatic experience and riot asking her for it would be super inappropriate.
thanatos11 [#12]Same thing basically bro
Its not, rape is when shes basically doing nothin and you start ripping her clothes off. Sexual assault is when u for example are having sex but then start going further even tho she said she doesnt want to
hellaeleganceyeah [#13]its a very traumatic experience and riot asking her for it would be super inappropriate.
The case was handed to the police after aswell. Also why would she not wanna provide it? When she already made acvusations and wants him to be punished obviously
nohorror27 [#5]Pretty sure he's been proved innocent
"i took our relationship differently" is not proven innocent. neither is he proven guilty. for now he is just an alleged rapist assaulter where the only evidence points to him being guilty. but neither us nor riot can be the judge for any of this cause this is insanely sensitive and can change lives, so its good that riot left it for the law to take care of. now its upto the victim to either take action or let it go.
hellaeleganceyeah [#16]"i took our relationship differently" is not proven innocent. neither is he proven guilty. for now he is just an alleged
rapistassaulter where the only evidence points to him being guilty. but neither us nor riot can be the judge for any of this cause this is insanely sensitive and can change lives, so its good that riot left it for the law to take care of. now its upto the victim to either take action or let it go.
I think he meant the case got dropped. Also he was accused of sexual assault not rape. 2 completly different things
PrTsty [#15]The case was handed to the police after aswell. Also why would she not wanna provide it? When she already made acvusations and wants him to be punished obviously
riot didnt ask for it so she isnt gonna just send it to them. its upto the law now whatever happens. also i have not seen anywhere that the police are involved, is there any sources you can find?
PrTsty [#17]I think he meant the case got dropped. Also he was accused of sexual assault not rape. 2 completly different things
thanks made the change
PrTsty [#14]Its not, rape is when shes basically doing nothin and you start ripping her clothes off. Sexual assault is when u for example are having sex but then start going further even tho she said she doesnt want to
Ok bro
hellaeleganceyeah [#18]riot didnt ask for it so she isnt gonna just send it to them. its upto the law now whatever happens. also i have not seen anywhere that the police are involved, is there any sources you can find?
The thing is that sinatraa sad he doesnt have it and cant provide it, but cloe than said he is lying she sent it to him on whatsapp back when they were together. So she basically was ok with him providing it but didnt wanna provide it herself?
Also I dont knownwhere i got that it got handed to the police from but thats what i last heard and that it got dropped afterwards
Nycera [#2]nah they wouldnt hire a rapist me no thinks
that's the problem with rape allegations they stain your future and it's impossible to do anything without that haunting you. Speaking from when a person is proven innocent. not saying that Sinatraa is innocent, far from that, more of a generalisation of when someone is accused.
PrTsty [#6]Actually that would be insane. I dont know team chemistry wise but T1 is a korean org so they probably wont care about the alligations.
I think t1 will be very good in vct 2022 and adding him instead of dawn might be very good
korea= dont care XD croatian brain
thanatos11 [#9]She legit uploaded a voice clip of him ‘raping her’ this legit makes it seem like she has a video or more audio?
if u r fucking ur gf and request little more then, its it means u will be raping her??dumbass.she was dumped ,thats why she leaked video to public to defame or revenge..if u don't understand video,then u would be raped by ur gf.
Nycera [#23]korea= dont care XD croatian brain
They will switch to korea as soon as valorant gets big there anyways.
Revan [#8]How fucking low IQ are you idiots. I'm not saying this for Sinaatra but how tf do you think Rape victims have video evidence? Do you think they just record everytime they are raped. Learn before you speak dumbass kids.
Like I said I wasn't saying it for Sinaatra, he isn't even accused of Rape, he is accused of Sexual Assualt and don't talk like you know what is happening. Nobody does. But you cannot say that if it was you then you would record it. That's the dumbest shit you could say.
PrTsty [#10]Thats what she stated lmao. Then sinatraa said he will provide the video but after that he realized he doesnt have it. Then cloe said he is lying she sent it to him per whatsapp when they were together???? So basically she put the camera there, he sexually assaulted her and then she sent it to him like ayo wtf. The whole story makes no sense and both of them are weirdos
yeah
summary is both of them are weirdos
PrTsty [#14]Its not, rape is when shes basically doing nothin and you start ripping her clothes off. Sexual assault is when u for example are having sex but then start going further even tho she said she doesnt want to
lmfao no
invincible08 [#24]if u r fucking ur gf and request little more then, its it means u will be raping her??dumbass.she was dumped ,thats why she leaked video to public to defame or revenge..if u don't understand video,then u would be raped by ur gf.
a 15 year olds “logic” on rape will always astound me
a respectful decent guy will not go further than his gf wants, period. so yes it’s completely possible to rape a gf.
NEYMAR [#32]Why are people still calling the guy a rapist. If he was really a rapist he would be in jail right now.
a truly profound understanding of how the justice system works for rape cases, this guy has
WitLitning [#34]a truly profound understanding of how the justice system works for rape cases, this guy has
Guess it's guilty until proven innocent now han?
NEYMAR [#35]Guess it's guilty until proven innocent now han?
love when kids on the internet do the hurrr innocent until proven guilty hurrr because they lack all nuance and understanding of the topic
PrTsty [#17]I think he meant the case got dropped. Also he was accused of sexual assault not rape. 2 completly different things
Per the US dept of justice, and pardon the graphic definitions. TW for anyone affected by this.
Rape:
The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
Sexual Assault:
Any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.
Tell me more about how they are completely different things.
NEYMAR [#35]Guess it's guilty until proven innocent now han?
nope, he’s still a free man. not proven guilty by the justice system. 100% can still be guilty, though. justice system makes mistakes all the time, but that’s how it has to be. it doesn’t have the privilege of opinions. we do.
WitLitning [#38]Per the US dept of justice, and pardon the graphic definitions. TW for anyone affected by this.
Rape:
The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
Sexual Assault:
Any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.Tell me more about how they are completely different things.
sussy
WitLitning [#31]a 15 year olds “logic” on rape will always astound me
a respectful decent guy will not go further than his gf wants, period. so yes it’s completely possible to rape a gf.
a respectful decent girl would also let his man finish up and not ask him to pull out at the last moment, and claim the last 3 pumps as RAPE lmao
Yoorake [#37]Jeez this thread just devolved into a shitstorm
Fr .. they can't stop talking about the allegations.
camosoulja [#43]a respectful decent girl would also let his man finish up and not ask him to pull out at the last moment, and claim the last 3 pumps as RAPE lmao
oh god lmao. yes hopefully the sex was enjoyable and both parties finish. but it’s not disrespectful or indecent to ask your partner to stop at any time.
cokeandyoghurt [#45]Even if he is proven innocent (which is not likely), his life will still be hard.
if “hard” includes streaming for 10k supporters and trialing for teams who care about performance over PR (i mean, who can blame them? such is business), i wouldn’t mind that life.
cokeandyoghurt [#45]Even if he is proven innocent (which is not likely), his life will still be hard.
his life is anything but hard
Deez [#49]his life is anything but hard
successful on the outside, yes, but some people have problems with this type of shit. ive seen so many people have a lot of good things happen in their lives but the negative thoughts still overtake them and they end up depressed. you’ve seen people in very happy conditions depressed right? not saying sinatraa is like this, but there’s always that possibility. he’s probably living with tons of regret for himself and backlash from the community and it’s up to him whether he focuses on that or the good things in his life
turkey [#53]successful on the outside, yes, but some people have problems with this type of shit. ive seen so many people have a lot of good things happen in their lives but the negative thoughts still overtake them and they end up depressed. you’ve seen people in very happy conditions depressed right? not saying sinatraa is like this, but there’s always that possibility. he’s probably living with tons of regret for himself and backlash from the community and it’s up to him whether he focuses on that or the good things in his life
considering he still has an ego when he streams I think he is fine. Unless he is just using that as a coping mechanism
cokeandyoghurt [#45]Even if he is proven innocent (which is not likely), his life will still be hard.
I mean, he is still innocent until proven guilty and his ex said she isnt going to court with him so he is pretty much free. His life is anything but hard lmao, 10k viewers each stream, no hate towards him on socials, no longer suspended and his ex is not trying to get him in jail so i guess there is no excuses to not sign him
PrTsty [#14]Its not, rape is when shes basically doing nothin and you start ripping her clothes off. Sexual assault is when u for example are having sex but then start going further even tho she said she doesnt want to
you are deadass 5 year old who gives too much fk about sinatraa. just letting you know Sinatra doesn't give a fk about you + if he did that with your sister I think you would still support him
thegoat [#58]you are deadass 5 year old who gives too much fk about sinatraa. just letting you know Sinatra doesn't give a fk about you + if he did that with your sister I think you would still support him
I dont care about him lol, they are both just completly weirdos. The story makes no sense but also sinatraa makes no sense. Nothing about this whole accusations makes sense and if sinatraa had 5iq he could put himself in a position where noone will doubt him.
Both are sussy
WitLitning [#39]nope, he’s still a free man. not proven guilty by the justice system. 100% can still be guilty, though. justice system makes mistakes all the time, but that’s how it has to be. it doesn’t have the privilege of opinions. we do.
Yeah, sure, but we should assume he is guilty until it's actually proven based on.... Opinion? Or we should not judge someone by ourselves based on opinion, until we can actually tell for sure what he really is?
WitLitning [#39]nope, he’s still a free man. not proven guilty by the justice system. 100% can still be guilty, though. justice system makes mistakes all the time, but that’s how it has to be. it doesn’t have the privilege of opinions. we do.
I'm not saying he is innocent, I'm just saying we don't know enough to convict the guy as rapist for the rest of his life, it's not a 100% fact, we can someone a rapist based on opinion, I'm sorry.
patuj [#60]You need to be delusional to think this would happen. No Tier 1 org would sign Sinatraa. I repeat, NO tier 1 org would sign Sinatraa. Accusations like this are all that is needed for tier 1 orgs to not even think about this dude. It would be terrible terrible move for org's PR.
Yeah, that's just sad. The guy has to prove his innocence, not the other way around, internet conviction is worse than the actual one, which he wasn't convicted at all. There's lots of cases like this, hope he is actually guilty, or if not, he could prove he isn't, it's just unfair to him if he is not guilty and is labeled a rapist for the rest of his life, just because he does not have enough evidence to prove his innocence.
PrTsty [#14]Its not, rape is when shes basically doing nothin and you start ripping her clothes off. Sexual assault is when u for example are having sex but then start going further even tho she said she doesnt want to
8/8 you got some people
PrTsty [#14]Its not, rape is when shes basically doing nothin and you start ripping her clothes off. Sexual assault is when u for example are having sex but then start going further even tho she said she doesnt want to
kinda sus why u know that
PrTsty [#59]I dont care about him lol, they are both just completly weirdos. The story makes no sense but also sinatraa makes no sense. Nothing about this whole accusations makes sense and if sinatraa had 5iq he could put himself in a position where noone will doubt him.
Both are sussy
“sussy”
NEYMAR [#63]Yeah, that's just sad. The guy has to prove his innocence, not the other way around, internet conviction is worse than the actual one, which he wasn't convicted at all. There's lots of cases like this, hope he is actually guilty, or if not, he could prove he isn't, it's just unfair to him if he is not guilty and is labeled a rapist for the rest of his life, just because he does not have enough evidence to prove his innocence.
internet conviction is worse than “actual” prison time conviction ah yes
Tbh I don't think Sinatraa is necessarily a good pick for T1 because all players in the roster were former CSGO players and sinatraa joining would be a little problem due to communication, but knowing T1 they've been picking up some former Overwatch stars which include Spyder and ANS. So the chances of T1 picking up Sinatraa is 50/50
WitLitning [#68]internet conviction is worse than “actual” prison time conviction ah yes
Yes, worse because it's biased and don't go by the law at all, people don't actually need proof or a confession, they simply lable you on opinion, not a worse punishment, but the way to do it is far worse than the legal US system, wich is far from perfect.
WitLitning [#38]Per the US dept of justice, and pardon the graphic definitions. TW for anyone affected by this.
Rape:
The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
Sexual Assault:
Any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.Tell me more about how they are completely different things.
Bro this is a valorant forum, not a forum about sexual assault
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