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Bet on odd part 5

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#1
Anguibok

Bet on odd part 4

Following of thoose post
https://www.vlr.gg/350419/betting-contest-based-on-odd-no-money-involved/
https://www.vlr.gg/351829/bet-on-odd-part-2/ (I can’t find round 2 topic, I think it might have been deleted, if you are a vlr mod, I would love to hear what hapenned!)
https://www.vlr.gg/353031/bet-on-odd-part-3/
https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4
tldr ; testing a bot based on ELO, I want to see if you can beat him.
Rule is easy :
Every new player receive 1000 point at the start, you can bet 100 point maximum on each game. (Obviously no money involved, it’s just for fun)

Round 5 odding bets Odd in [], chace of win in ()  :

  • [1,72] PRX – EDG [2,40] (PRX 58%)
  • [1,51] FNC – FUT [2,97] (FNC 66%)
  • [1,85] G2 – TH [2,17] (G2 54%)
  • [1,74] GEN – 100T [2,35] (GEN 57%)

Ranking :

  • PP12123213123 1319
  • flanador 1319
  • dogexyz 1319
  • alsdhflkahflkajsdhlfhsadl 1319
  • randomperson 1319
  • Liem 1279
  • number2_cNed_fan 1145
  • kaesra 1117
  • capital_d_colon 1102
  • wykes 1043
  • scarlemange 1043
  • Dolphin 918
  • doomvor 849
  • K4ziuHa 825
  • 7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao 806
  • Al-Mawsil 800
  • nguyenboi 774
  • liamo 774
  • novinho_pirocudo 553

With TH defeat the bot get ruined (currently -623, was in positive before EDG loose), China being overated gonna kill the bot for this all S3 I think, but in S4 things are gonna be better because China will loose enough ELO at international game in S3 to rebalance things, so even team that rollstomp China will not have that mush ELO

Result of lasts rounds :
R1

  • [1.7] G2 - T1 [2.42] : (G2 59%, G2)
  • [1.61] FPX - FUT [2.63] : (FPX 62%)
  • [1.61] GEN - LEV [2.63] : (GEN 62%)
  • [1.48] TH - DRG [3.07] : (TH 67%)

R2

  • [1,99] G2 - TH [2,01] : (G2 50,2%)
  • [1,92] FPX - GEN [2,08] (FPX 52%)
  • [1,79] LEV - T1 [2,26] : (LEV 56%)
  • [1,53] FUT - DRG [2,88] : (FUT 65%)

R3

  • [1,66] FPX – TH [2,52] (FPX 60%)
  • [1,96] FUT – LEV [2,05] (FUT 51 %)

R4

  • [1,36] PRX – G2 [3,79] (PRX 74%)
  • [1,44] EDG – TH [3,28] (EDG 69 %)
  • [1,74] 100T – FUT [2,35] (100T 58%)
  • [1,86] FNC – GEN [2,17] (FNC 54 %)

Edit : I donno why but I put Dogexys twice x)

#2
capital_d_colon
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100 PRX
100 FNC
100 TH
100 100T

#3
Azzelastia
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You didn't add mine from last post.
100 100T
100 FNC
100 G2
100 PRX

#4
Anguibok
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Azzelastia [#3]

You didn't add mine from last post.
100 100T
100 FNC
100 G2
100 PRX

I'm sorry but on the last post I cant find your post, can you link me plz ^^ ?

#5
Cosmic_
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100 100t
100 fnc
100 G2
100 PRX

#6
tungsten_cube
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100 PRX
100 FNC
100 TH
100 100T

#7
novinho_pirocudo
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i think i know why the bot is putting the chinese teams too high, it’s because it is based on elo, wich means who wins more gets more elo, but vct china is hella weak, edg and fpx are the only “good” teams, meaning they will win more matches, but other region teams are simply better on paper, you get my point? no idea how are you going to fix it tho

#8
pokedyo
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100 fnatic
20 edg
50 geng
100 g2

#9
Dolphin
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100 on G2
100 on 100t
100 on PRX
100 on FUT

#10
highlyte
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Will this bet be only for this tournament or will it be held for others?

#11
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highlyte [#10]

Will this bet be only for this tournament or will it be held for others?

I'm considering doing it for every T1 league

#12
donkkomong
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100 on PRX
100 on FNC
100 on G2
100 on GENG

#13
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novinho_pirocudo [#7]

i think i know why the bot is putting the chinese teams too high, it’s because it is based on elo, wich means who wins more gets more elo, but vct china is hella weak, edg and fpx are the only “good” teams, meaning they will win more matches, but other region teams are simply better on paper, you get my point? no idea how are you going to fix it tho

Yeah that kinda the problem, but the problem will be solved in long term, because chinese team will continue giving their ELO to other region during international event, so in long term the mean of team ELO in China will be really low and even a team that win everything in China will not win that mush ELO, because ELO fo their competitor are low.

Remember in ELO you gain a lot against a team that have a lot of ELO, and you win barely nothing against a team that have really low ELO

#14
Azzelastia
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Anguibok [#4]

I'm sorry but on the last post I cant find your post, can you link me plz ^^ ?

https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4/#32

#15
FNS_KITTEN
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100 PRX
100 FNC
100 G2
100 100T

#16
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Azzelastia [#14]

https://www.vlr.gg/353760/bet-on-odd-part-4/#32

Thanks, i'll update you for the next round

You stand currently at 1179

#17
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pokedyo [#8]

100 fnatic
20 edg
50 geng
100 g2

Smart to bet small on the upsets

#18
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Poweranking :
PRX 97
GEN 83
EDG 77
FNC 70
G2 67
100T 66
TH 58
FUT 31

I am so disagree with the bot it's insane

#19
scarlemange
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i throw a little bit (:
100 PRX
100 FNC
100 G2
100 100T

#20
Legion91
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100 - PRX
100 - FNC
100 - TH
100 - 100T

#21
number2_cNed_fan
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100 FUT
100 PRX
100 100T
100 TH
EZ

#22
PP12123213123
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100 - PRX
100 - FNC
100 - TH
100 - 100T

#23
flanador
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100 G2
100 100T
100 PRX
100 FNC

#24
kaesra
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100 prx
100 geng

#25
dogexyz
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500 prx
100 th
100 fnc
100 gen g

#26
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dogexyz [#25]

500 prx
100 th
100 fnc
100 gen g

Sorry my bro, it's 100 max per game

#27
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Going to sleep but it's time to look at the mean vote on each team :

  • PRX - EDG | bot pred PRX 58% | your pred PRX 99% (This one sounds absolutely insane even if I probably would have bet PRX myself, I would have rate PRX a something like 80% neither 58 or 99)
  • FNC - FUT | bot pred FNC 66% | your pred FNC 87% (Fair point)
  • G2 - TH | bot pred G2 54% | your pred G2 57% (Only one bot agree with you)
  • GEN - 100T | bot pred GEN 57% | your pred 100T 76% (I think this game is a 50-50 in favor of 100T, again i'm neither agree with the bot that favorise GEN, neitheir with you that consider 100T as the clear fav, among the 3 it's the only one when bot and you arent agree about fav)
#28
Liem
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100 on prx
100 on 100t

#29
TooCaution_Heartless
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100 Fnatic
100 PRX
100 on 100T
100 on TH

#30
TooCaution_Heartless
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Anguibok [#18]

Poweranking :
PRX 97
GEN 83
EDG 77
FNC 70
G2 67
100T 66
TH 58
FUT 31

I am so disagree with the bot it's insane

what ranking elo work??
count on shiang hai major only?

#31
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TooCaution_Heartless [#30]

what ranking elo work??
count on shiang hai major only?

It takes every game since S1 (even if S2 need to had slight modification to work but nothing too hard)
S3 had a lot of impact on team that why some team are too favored by the bot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

#32
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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100 PRX
100 FNC
100 TH
100 100T

#33
doomvor
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100 PRX
100 Fnatic
75 G2
75 100T

#34
dogexyz
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Anguibok [#26]

Sorry my bro, it's 100 max per game

MB
100 prx
100 th
100 fnc
100 gen g

#35
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dogexyz [#34]

MB
100 prx
100 th
100 fnc
100 gen g

No worry, I put 100 on PRX, that always what I do when max is passed

#36
novinho_pirocudo
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Anguibok [#13]

Yeah that kinda the problem, but the problem will be solved in long term, because chinese team will continue giving their ELO to other region during international event, so in long term the mean of team ELO in China will be really low and even a team that win everything in China will not win that mush ELO, because ELO fo their competitor are low.

Remember in ELO you gain a lot against a team that have a lot of ELO, and you win barely nothing against a team that have really low ELO

smart.

#37
gamingtaming
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someone please tell me how this betting thins works actually looks so fun
do we start with money or smth

#38
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gamingtaming [#37]

someone please tell me how this betting thins works actually looks so fun
do we start with money or smth

No money involved, you just receive 1000 when you start and you can bet 100 per game maximum, you just have to put in comment your bet

#39
nguyenboi
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100 100T
100 G2

too late to do elim matches :(

#40
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nguyenboi [#39]

100 100T
100 G2

too late to do elim matches :(

I'm not sure if I can accept the 100T vote since the game as just start, but no problem wth G2

#41
nguyenboi
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Anguibok [#40]

I'm not sure if I can accept the 100T vote since the game as just start, but no problem wth G2

thats fine, thanks anyways

#42
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capital_d_colon [#2]

100 PRX
100 FNC
100 TH
100 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#43
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Azzelastia [#3]

You didn't add mine from last post.
100 100T
100 FNC
100 G2
100 PRX

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#44
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Cosmic_ [#5]

100 100t
100 fnc
100 G2
100 PRX

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#45
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tungsten_cube [#6]

100 PRX
100 FNC
100 TH
100 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#46
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pokedyo [#8]

100 fnatic
20 edg
50 geng
100 g2

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#47
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Dolphin [#9]

100 on G2
100 on 100t
100 on PRX
100 on FUT

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#48
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donkkomong [#12]

100 on PRX
100 on FNC
100 on G2
100 on GENG

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#49
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FNS_KITTEN [#15]

100 PRX
100 FNC
100 G2
100 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#50
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scarlemange [#19]

i throw a little bit (:
100 PRX
100 FNC
100 G2
100 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#51
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Legion91 [#20]

100 - PRX
100 - FNC
100 - TH
100 - 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#52
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number2_cNed_fan [#21]

100 FUT
100 PRX
100 100T
100 TH
EZ

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#53
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PP12123213123 [#22]

100 - PRX
100 - FNC
100 - TH
100 - 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#54
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flanador [#23]

100 G2
100 100T
100 PRX
100 FNC

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#55
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kaesra [#24]

100 prx
100 geng

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#56
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dogexyz [#25]

500 prx
100 th
100 fnc
100 gen g

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#57
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Liem [#28]

100 on prx
100 on 100t

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#58
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TooCaution_Heartless [#29]

100 Fnatic
100 PRX
100 on 100T
100 on TH

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#59
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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#32]

100 PRX
100 FNC
100 TH
100 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#60
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doomvor [#33]

100 PRX
100 Fnatic
75 G2
75 100T

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

#61
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nguyenboi [#39]

100 100T
100 G2

too late to do elim matches :(

https://www.vlr.gg/357075/bet-on-odd-part-6

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